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Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings
    #22168383 - 08/31/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Somewhere in May or June (4 - 5 months ago) I purchased 7 (expensive, holy shit) e novo seeds (from a U.S. source) and planted directly in soil. When they arrived in the mail I was pretty sure they were all dead, they didn't seem fresh and were only very mildly moist in a small baggy accompanied by a dried out papertowel piece. For a month and a half, I manually moistened the soil with rain water, and had them placed in a plastic dome. Nothing happened.

The soil began to grow fungus and what looked to be penicillin or something, things weren't looking promising. Just for the heck of it I decided to take them out of the dome, put them in plastic cups and place them outside. It rained multiple times, filling up the cups with water, basically drowning them. I let it evaporate and ignored it. The soil dried out, then got drown again.

About a week ago I was walking by them (I haven't even looked at them in a week or two) and thought to myself, this is pointless, and an eyesore - I should just throw them away.

POOF! 2 sprouts!  I immediately transplanted them to larger (and nicer looking) pots and brought them indoors as it is getting ready to get chilly here in the midwest, and I plan on having them in here anyway.









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Re: Erythroxylum Novagrantese (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22168435 - 08/31/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

good news mate, but be sure they get enough light...

if now they will not pop out from the seed coat and then die...

Good luck mate :smile:


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: oriky]
    #22168469 - 08/31/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

How much light would you recommend? I was under the understanding that they didn't need much direct light. It is under a window that is significantly raised above where its table is. Can I supplement with a table lamp left on in close proximity?


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22169543 - 08/31/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i dont know how much exactly.

im live in the middle east, here the sun is very strong...
when the seedling was under 70W of CFL the was very tall and tiny (searching for light), i move them out side to shade (the temp was around 34C)...

them was look much better...
now 2 of the seedling is on the shade, and them get angle for to the sun direct, and two of the seedling is on 5-6 of noon sun - very strong sun, and them look very nice...

i know much of the people say the novo dosnt need allot of sun, but my experience show that they like allot of sun

p.s two of the seeds under the cfl was germinate, but not success to remove the coat of the seeds and died... :frown:..

Good luck my friend.. :smile:


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: oriky]
    #22170048 - 08/31/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I appreciate the information, experience, and good luck wishes. Thats awesome that yours are doing well. I've only recently began growing things, plants and fungus alike.

It is definitely teaching me patience.

I don't know much at all about this plants natural habitat, but I would think that it is full sun - which is why I was very surprised to hear anyone say that it likes the shade. I am just a beginner so what do I know though?  :shrug:


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22170872 - 08/31/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well, I'll go ahead and throw my 2 cents in. I wouldn't give it very strong light. They don't need it. They grow very well in a window without much direct light. Maybe an hour or two at most of direct sun through the window is all I have found they need....

What is going to ensure that the seed coat falls off is good humidity. If it gets too dry, it won't fall off. What I have done before is mist them and keep in a humidity chamber until the seed coat falls off. Until they get a set or two of leaves, they don't like being too dry. Once they pass that small seedling point, they don't like being too wet... They are strange.


Anyway, like I said just my 2c. Either way, good luck with them, honestly, it's amazing that they sprouted after that long of doing nothing!


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22171704 - 08/31/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Well, I'll go ahead and throw my 2 cents in. I wouldn't give it very strong light. They don't need it. They grow very well in a window without much direct light. Maybe an hour or two at most of direct sun through the window is all I have found they need....

What is going to ensure that the seed coat falls off is good humidity. If it gets too dry, it won't fall off. What I have done before is mist them and keep in a humidity chamber until the seed coat falls off. Until they get a set or two of leaves, they don't like being too dry. Once they pass that small seedling point, they don't like being too wet... They are strange.


Anyway, like I said just my 2c. Either way, good luck with them, honestly, it's amazing that they sprouted after that long of doing nothing!




Awesome! Thanks so much for the input, first thing tomorrow morning i'll make some kind of dome cover for them to help with humidity. Today I was kind of noticing that it doesn't look like that coat is going to come off easy... It would be very disappointing if it died now! Is there any point at which you'd want to help the coat off? I know that its a no-no, but is there any way to tell when the plant is struggling and going to die if its not removed?

I've been misting them regularly, however my house is kind of dry, especially as we get closer to winter. I was reading something about having a fan on them to strengthen the stem, but this also dries it out quickly too.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22171965 - 08/31/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Let me chime in with 2 cents. They don't need direct sunlight. They don't need strong fertilization for some time and even then a slow release is perfect. I grow mine under an elms shade and it works perfect. They will get some sun very early morning and it totally works. I live in deep south subtropical Texas. I tweak my grows accordingly.

This will be my last go at novogranatense. I've grown it successfully before but my wife will not let me be happy at all so she is their ultimate demise. Anywho they are doing well now but never be discouraged and just keep plugging along.

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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: ferrel_human]
    #22172054 - 08/31/15 11:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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...but my wife will not let me be happy at all so she is their ultimate demise...

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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22172073 - 08/31/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Man fuck that. Women suck. But that's for a whole 'nother thread in a different room.:lophcrankey:


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22172163 - 09/01/15 12:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Alright, couldn't sleep because I am paranoid that the humidity is too low and the seed coat won't fall off. I had to get up and cut out a makeshift dome. I feel better now :smile:



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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22172537 - 09/01/15 04:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

1000Th post. Good luck.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #22172708 - 09/01/15 06:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Whne they get tall enough you can gent pry off the seed hull and the plant will open up nicely.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: ferrel_human]
    #22173400 - 09/01/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)



Wow, probably just coincidence, but less than 10 hours after putting the makeshift dome up, the seed case is coming off. If you look closely at this pic you can see where the stem splits into the leaves as the plant is pushing the casing off.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22174341 - 09/01/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Wow, probably just coincidence, but less than 10 hours after putting the makeshift dome up, the seed case is coming off. If you look closely at this pic you can see where the stem splits into the leaves as the plant is pushing the casing off.




Nice! I was just about to pop in and mention I wouldn't worry about pulling off the seed coat manually until you absolutely had to. Glad to see it's working out! As for a fan, you can do that once it gets a tad bit older and will tolerate lower humidity. Once they get out of their seedling stage, they REALLY take off with their growth.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22174755 - 09/01/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Wow!! Exciting day! Less than 24 hours after the water bottle terrarium and the seed cover is completely off plant #1! Thanks for the tips guys! How long should I leave that over the plant??



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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22174960 - 09/01/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It's good for now.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: ferrel_human]
    #22175195 - 09/01/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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It's good for now.



I assume you are saying to leave the chamber on for now, right?


That's what I would suggest. Leave it until it gets a few pairs of leaves... Now you have to play a balancing act between keeping humidity on it and not letting it dampen off.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22175272 - 09/01/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Take it off. I start off mine with no humidity but when they get tall enough I just pull apart my seed hull.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: ferrel_human]
    #22175533 - 09/01/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well, I will yield to ferrel's advice, then. I'm pretty sure he has more experience in this area than me. I've only gotten one to adulthood so far... :thumbup:


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22179839 - 09/02/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think I'm going to leave the bottle off but get them accustomed to it slowly over the period of 2-3 days. Half of the day off, then on at night. Just for a day or two.


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    #22179853 - 09/02/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Or you could just poke holes in the bottle. Let ambient humidity get in and then off it goes.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: ferrel_human]
    #22181766 - 09/03/15 05:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Cool idea!


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    #22181904 - 09/03/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

As I rolled out of bed today, the first set of leaves spread open on plant #1...




Plant #2 is still having trouble pulling the seed out of the soil... Should I help it?



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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22183470 - 09/03/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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As I rolled out of bed today, the first set of leaves spread open on plant #1...




Plant #2 is still having trouble pulling the seed out of the soil... Should I help it?




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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: oriky]
    #22184402 - 09/03/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Common knowledge might lean toward not helping it, but honestly I can't say I wouldn't resist the urge to at least move tiny bits of dirt off the seed coat to lighten the load it has to lift to get it's head up...


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22186123 - 09/04/15 01:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Common knowledge might lean toward not helping it, but honestly I can't say I wouldn't resist the urge to at least move tiny bits of dirt off the seed coat to lighten the load it has to lift to get it's head up...




True. I fucked with mine constantly.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: ferrel_human]
    #22189429 - 09/04/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Man oh man, I think my luck is going strong here... I came home from work to find this little girl in the back, making the THIRD little miracle... Big storms recently, must have urged her to peak up! Gonna buy her a new indoor pot tomorrow and bring her in.

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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22189536 - 09/04/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

good luck *said with a Marco from Trepoja voice*


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    #22189661 - 09/04/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8] * 1
    #22191037 - 09/05/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Wow, nice job man!  I just recently started growing E. novo myself for the first time as well, though my little plants have a month or two on yours. 
I'm no expert on growing E. novo(far from it, to be honest) but since we're at similar stages in the growing process and I'm just a bit ahead of you in the process, feel free to ask me anything or look at myn thread if you're curious as to what methods I raise these plants with. 
I'll do the same by checking up on this thread as the months go by! :thumbup:

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    #22191512 - 09/05/15 06:14 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Wow, nice job man!  I just recently started growing E. novo myself for the first time as well, though my little plants have a month or two on yours. 
I'm no expert on growing E. novo(far from it, to be honest) but since we're at similar stages in the growing process and I'm just a bit ahead of you in the process, feel free to ask me anything or look at myn thread if you're curious as to what methods I raise these plants with. 
I'll do the same by checking up on this thread as the months go by! :thumbup:

Here's some pics of my seedlings(about two months old currently)





Very cool man, I'll check ito out it and be watching yours grow up too. I've also got salvia divinorum growing from seed and a few other gems. I'm just a beginner but I'm finding my green thumb.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22193898 - 09/05/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ok, got #3 a new pot and then came home to find that she already has her seed cover off and is opening her first set of leaves...

So, what do i do? Fuck with her, of course... As I was moving her into her final home, the dirt fell apart and I had to push hard against the side of the container to prevent her from twisting. I hope she's alright.



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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22199295 - 09/06/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hopefully it will be okay. As long as you didn't crack the stem or anything, I think it should pull through.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22200607 - 09/07/15 04:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Common knowledge might lean toward not helping it, but honestly I can't say I wouldn't resist the urge to at least move tiny bits of dirt off the seed coat to lighten the load it has to lift to get it's head up...




It looked very stressed to me, so i moved dirt around in there to allow it to pull up the seed. That one might need surgical intervention.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22202674 - 09/07/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Has moving the dirt helped yet? I know you only posted this 10 hours ago, but be sure to update when it does something. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that it starts standing up in the next few hours to a day, assuming the stem or roods didn't get damaged.


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    #22206550 - 09/08/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Has moving the dirt helped yet? I know you only posted this 10 hours ago, but be sure to update when it does something. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that it starts standing up in the next few hours to a day, assuming the stem or roods didn't get damaged.




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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22213841 - 09/09/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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    #22217956 - 09/10/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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:thumbup:




#2 is up and off the soil now, pushing the seed coat off. She seems to be bent, I hope she straightens out.



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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22218210 - 09/10/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If not, just consider it a 'birth mark'. :grin: It'll just make her look unique. :thumbup:  How's the other one doing?


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    #22218543 - 09/10/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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If not, just consider it a 'birth mark'. :grin: It'll just make her look unique. :thumbup:  How's the other one doing?




The other two are doing well. One of them looks like something ate the very end of the tiny first leaves. I discovered this just after I sprayed them (and the soil) with Capitan Jacks Deadbug given to me by a friend. I saw some gnats and tiny earwigs (looked like fast little worms), and since these are inside I can't have any bugs or anything. Didn't seem to hurt the plants, and killed everything visible.

I've also started bringing the ph of my tapwater down with apple cider vinegar and watering them with sprays of it. My baby Sally plant seems to like it, and the novos don't seem to hate it...


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22218561 - 09/10/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If you are able, you might want to try to collect some rainwater as well, I try to water all my sallies, novos, and carnivorous plants with only rainwater when I can help it. Set a bucket out under a spot where a lot of water drains - or if you are able, reroute your gutters into a big collection drum.

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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22220091 - 09/11/15 04:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

When I was saying it looked like something ate the very tip of the leaves, this is what I was talking about. As the plant is getting a little bigger the very end looks brown.

When the sun comes out I'll see if I can get a higher resolution shot.



I guess I can collect rainwater, it's what I did during germination. I stopped using it because it plugged up my spray bottles, which would be solved by filtering it which I am more than capable of. Unfortunately even collecting rainwater has to be somewhat stealthy around here, because we have crazy ass Mosquitos. So many Mosquitos in fact that we get fined for standing water, and the ENTIRE town gets sprayed weekly by a truck with walkers next to it.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22221143 - 09/11/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

looks like a little damage from where the seed coat was shed. in some places it is illegal to gather rainwater.
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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #22221681 - 09/11/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Awesome that the odd ends of the leaves aren't from bugs!

Good bugs and bad bugs both fall under the same category inside of the house... Can't have either of them. Some of these were so small that I'm not sure what they were. But I can't have em. Got to have clean, nice looking pots and soil, with healthy plants and nothing creepy crawly, or this grow is a no go. :smile:


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    #22228135 - 09/12/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

#2 is straightening out...  Thank god.
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    #22232968 - 09/13/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Nice.

What are you using as a humidity dome for that one?


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It's a bottle I believe.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: ferrel_human]
    #22233589 - 09/13/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Nice.

What are you using as a humidity dome for that one?



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It's a bottle I believe.




I was using a bottle, however I was organizing my glass and came across a glass cylinder. I started using that a while ago covered with some Sywran wrap (spelling?). It looked better.



I took it off today because #2 finally shed her seed coat!!!



If you remember, #1 had the tips of the leaves looking funny, and I'm realizing that whatever that was, also effected the sprouting stem node that was coming up between the leaves. Apparently whatever this is, "topped" my plant. It seems to be still growing albeit much slower than her counterparts.



I saw this happen with marijuana one time, where a bunny came up and ate it right there. All the surrounding plants got to 2 feet and then the injured one grew two from that spot just like if it were topped later in development. Hopefully this novo does the same (or just grows normal)


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22237862 - 09/14/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Good job dil8.
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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22239835 - 09/15/15 06:14 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Here is how they're coming along (by number of which they came up from the dirt):

Number 1, who has had some problems with the tips of her leaves looking like they were possibly chewed by bugs, or as someone else pointed out, damaged during the shed of her seed coat. She is growing slower than the others, and also appears slightly more yellow than them too:



Number 2, who took FOREVER to shed her seed coat, and her stem had to bend back and forth struggling with it. She may need some stability help to stand up later in development - time will tell. I've pushed a half centimeter of dirt around her to grab onto and put a fan on high 18 hours a day, 5 feet from her (and the other two) in order to strengthen the stem.



Number 3 which is the the most recent addition, is in the largest pot, and is bigger and growing faster than her sisters. She hasn't had to deal with any gnats, pests, or seed coat issues. This one is 1.5weeks younger than the other two.


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    #22241773 - 09/15/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:superbanana: Keep it up!


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    #22242606 - 09/15/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Does it usually take that long to germinate?


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    #22242891 - 09/15/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's not uncommon. Depends how you receive them. If they still have the fruit on the berry, they might take even longer...


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    #22256862 - 09/18/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

#1 seems to be starting to recover nicely. She is starting on her second set of leaves.




#2 has already sprouted her leaves, and is developing them




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    #22257546 - 09/18/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

My bushes are producing berries so I plant a few. You want to turn them constantly away from the light or they grow way over to one side and never straighten up. I have one seedling that is decent size, the others are smaller. The parent bushes are much larger of course, I keep them outside.


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    #22258080 - 09/18/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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My bushes are producing berries so I plant a few. You want to turn them constantly away from the light or they grow way over to one side and never straighten up. I have one seedling that is decent size, the others are smaller. The parent bushes are much larger of course, I keep them outside.




Thanks so much for the advice, I'll do that. Ive also got a fan on them the majority of each day. Unfortunately I won't be able to place them outside anytime soon because I live inbetween zone 5 and 6.


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    #22261559 - 09/19/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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:whathesaid:

I neglected this chore for a week or two and it put a permanent lean on it. It had to be staked to train it back straight.

Hey stonehenge, do yours put on berries pretty much all year? Or is it just one wave of them? I'm guessing it's pretty much all year while it is warm..?

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Yeah, I bring them in when its cold. I put them under a mh light, they don't need a ton of light. Mine produce berries most of the year. They will be cutting back on berries soon, then I might only send out seedlings.


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    #22261727 - 09/19/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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    #22266272 - 09/20/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I was thinking about trying to start some erythoxylum coca var coca to give the novos some cousins, however I think that's a much bigger risk trying to source in the states, isn't it? Or is it the same risk?


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    #22270956 - 09/21/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I guess it depends on where they are coming from.... inside or outside the US....  I imagine they are going to much more difficult to even find than novo, although I've never actually searched myself...


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    #22270994 - 09/21/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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    #22272669 - 09/22/15 05:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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    #22277472 - 09/23/15 05:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone know what novo sprouts look like when not given enough relative humidity?


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    #22277477 - 09/23/15 05:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Anyone know what novo sprouts look like when not given enough relative humidity?




i'd imagine withered for a very short while, then they'd die quickly. I removed the dome as advised on mine shortly after the seed coat fell off, and it's pretty dry in here - although I am one who mists a lot.

Probably not the answer you're looking for, but I wouldn't imagine sprouts lasting too long outside of their humidity requirements.


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    #22277575 - 09/23/15 06:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Nope that was a decent answer. a few of mine have a weird leaf curl going on I dunno what it is just trying to figure it out.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: Bumbaclotjohnson]
    #22278438 - 09/23/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Nope that was a decent answer. a few of mine have a weird leaf curl going on I dunno what it is just trying to figure it out.




What does it look like? I stopped misting mine so much and the leaf tips started looking better.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22280052 - 09/23/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm with dil8. I can't imagine them lasting long at all without enough humidity. Once they get bigger, they take lower (room average) humidity...  Got any pics???  Anytime I've ever seen leaf curl on a young seedling, they didn't last long...


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22280663 - 09/23/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'll snap a pic tomorrow they've been around for over a month like this. Still growing but the new leaves curl after unfolding.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: Bumbaclotjohnson]
    #22283496 - 09/24/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Planted 8/3 sprouted 8/30~

Any clue what could be causing the curl? I have seen some gnat movement so I'm letting the soil dry a little and I've ordered an essential oil mix that'll keep em out.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: Bumbaclotjohnson]
    #22283500 - 09/24/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I'll snap a pic tomorrow they've been around for over a month like this. Still growing but the new leaves curl after unfolding.




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Look above


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Better pics of the issue


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: Bumbaclotjohnson]
    #22285056 - 09/24/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think it is due to low humidity but don't increase humidity though. The new leaves will be 'normal' at least that is the case with mine.


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    #22285442 - 09/24/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I think it is due to low humidity but don't increase humidity though. The new leaves will be 'normal' at least that is the case with mine.



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Very nice plant. How old is it?


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    #22285815 - 09/24/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Beautiful plant right there. I wouldn't be worried about that little curl either.


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Very nice plant. How old is it?




I think it's about 10 months. My record keeping last year was subpar, to say the least... Definitely less than a year though...


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Very nice plant. How old is it?




I think it's about 10 months. My record keeping last year was subpar, to say the least... Definitely less than a year though...




I'd be very happy to have 3 of those in just over half a year :smile:

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    #22295836 - 09/26/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm telling you, once they get like 6 pairs of leaves or so, they REALLY take off with their growth. Springtime's arrival about that time probably helped wake it up too, but I feel like I've practically watched this thing grow every day.

It's slowed down it's growth recently, though. I need to check and make sure it hasn't become root-bound or anything.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22295861 - 09/26/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think tomorrow morning I may post another photo update. They're healthy and growing, they don't look all nice and clean like yours does now but... I'm not complaining.


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    #22297745 - 09/27/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

#1 has gradually started looking less and less healthy. This morning her damaged first set of infant leaves are almost all shriveled, and she looked dry. I sprayed her with some water and then covered her with a misted glass cylinder covered with loose plastic...

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    #22297847 - 09/27/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It just takes a little patience. Now is a good time to start them, start plants indoors during the winter and put them out in spring to take off.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22300104 - 09/27/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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It just takes a little patience. Now is a good time to start them, start plants indoors during the winter and put them out in spring to take off.




I read this and thought to myself, what a great idea - I should start some more.

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#1 has gradually started looking less and less healthy. This morning her damaged first set of infant leaves are almost all shriveled, and she looked dry. I sprayed her with some water and then covered her with a misted glass cylinder covered with loose plastic...

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After putting the dome back on #1 started looking better (within a day), so I decided to put the other two back under domes as well to see what happens.


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    #22302563 - 09/28/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Check for berry trades in the marketplace in a couple weeks. I predict there will be some available. :wink:


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    #22304087 - 09/28/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yea you can find them in the marketplace here and there but the people that have them always want way to much which makes it not even worth it.


I thought about it last year but after talking to the only 2 people that trade or sale them on here I decided the price was WAY to high to make it worth my while:nonono:


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    #22304138 - 09/28/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I got 5 germinated seedlings for $3 each + shipping :rockon:


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I got 5 germinated seedlings for $3 each + shipping :rockon:




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Check for berry trades in the marketplace in a couple weeks. I predict there will be some available. :wink:




Thanks a bunch, I think I found what I need there. My other source is acting funny (which oddly enough isn't exactly out of the norm for him), so I think I'm done with him. I appreciate he pointers.


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Yea you can find them in the marketplace here and there but the people that have them always want way to much which makes it not even worth it.


I thought about it last year but after talking to the only 2 people that trade or sale them on here I decided the price was WAY to high to make it worth my while:nonono:




Yeah, I don't enjoy the steep prices either. They are fun to grow and rare as hell, so it's worth it to me... As far as someone growing to sell, it may not be "worth" it to them. It's a hobby that keeps me out of trouble, so the  expense isn't that big of a hit.

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A friendly reminder folks : Source discussion/request is NOT allowed.
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A friendly reminder folks : Source discussion/request is NOT allowed.
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Nice plant cRm.  I've got 5 seedlings that I can't remember when I started them, but they're still tiny as all hell.  Maybe 3" tall.  They just have gotten 3-4 sets of leaves.  I gave them their first dose of derts the other day but I think I might have burned them a little.  So I flushed them this morning.  They're still in 2" peat pellets.  Probably would do them some good to be put in a real pot.  What kind of light do you give yours?


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Nice plant cRm.  I've got 5 seedlings that I can't remember when I started them, but they're still tiny as all hell.  Maybe 3" tall.  They just have gotten 3-4 sets of leaves.  I gave them their first dose of derts the other day but I think I might have burned them a little.  So I flushed them this morning.  They're still in 2" peat pellets.  Probably would do them some good to be put in a real pot.  What kind of light do you give yours?




Thanks. It lives in a western facing window. It kind of gets direct(ish) light through the window from like 3 till sunset through the window. But that light is somewhat diffused from the treetops. It doesn't need a ton of light. IME at that age, they are just changing to their 'adult' needs. Humidity can be dropped down slowly towards room humidity and you can start letting their soil dry between waterings (try to ease into that). They also need to be eased gently into ferts (like you seem to have found, I think even at this stage they are a little young for them though). Even when they are older, though, they still don't take a lot of ferts. Once they get just a little older than the ones you have and really take off with growth, they are really laid back plants. No high lighting demands, they like to dry out between waterings so no huge watering schedule, and no need to fuss too much about ferts....


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    #22320356 - 10/01/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well, it's getting cold out, and I've got to organize inside. My novo collection is going to multiply here by a lot, which means I'm probably going to have to utilize my tent 4x4x6 (approximately). If I were to throw the novos in there, anyone have any idea how much lighting I should use?

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    #22320566 - 10/01/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hmmm. You just left my limited realm of expertise... I have vertually no experience with grow tents or any strong lighting.

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    #22320574 - 10/01/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

400watts would be plenty, its the light schedule you put them on that matters. Remember they dont need a lot of direct light. I'd say slowly acclimate them to getting maybe 3-4 hours under the light


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22320579 - 10/01/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I put mine under a 400w mh with about 6' x 4' of space but those are mature plants. You might want to put the little novos at the edge of the light circle or have a separate area for them.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: grownright]
    #22320584 - 10/01/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I have a few in a grow box with a day light led. Works fine I give them 12 hours. It puts out 1500 lumens.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22320650 - 10/01/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I put mine under a 400w mh with about 6' x 4' of space but those are mature plants. You might want to put the little novos at the edge of the light circle or have a separate area for them.



This. This is actually what I was thinking with what I have. I've got a 8' x8' x 6.5' tent with a 1000watt, Im gonna keep my Novos at the edge of the light and put everything that needs more intense light directly underneath


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: Bumbaclotjohnson]
    #22344685 - 10/07/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I have a few in a grow box with a day light led. Works fine I give them 12 hours. It puts out 1500 lumens.




How close are they to the light, or are those the lumens tested at the plant? I'm going to have more than will fit on the outside of the circle of light, so I've got to kind of calculate direct light.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22349113 - 10/08/15 08:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Distance doesn't seem to be an issue. It's one bulb and they range from 8 inches to 1 1/2 feet from the light.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: Bumbaclotjohnson] * 2
    #22429039 - 10/24/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well, unfortunately I had one of the three die...

But, fortunately I was able to mourn and move on with the addition of many new sprouts.



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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #22433015 - 10/25/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Oh wow! Nice additions!


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22558467 - 11/22/15 06:10 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

How old should seedlings be to begin adding nutes? And what nutes should one give e novo?


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: shellzenone]
    #22559187 - 11/22/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I have berries growing on my novo plant they are green does anybody know when a good time to pick these would be to grow more?


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: fatal222316]
    #22578588 - 11/26/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You need to wait until they are uniformly red and separate from the plant with a pretty light pull.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: naum]
    #22578747 - 11/26/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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You need to wait until they are uniformly red and separate from the plant with a pretty light pull.





Damn naum where you been Buddy?



BTW dil8 those seedling are wonderful. I think you'll be over run by Novos in no time:wink:


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: spaceman101]
    #22607218 - 12/03/15 02:07 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the info one of them has turned red only have like five or six thanks again. :smile:


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #23161970 - 04/27/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Well sheesh, it has been 146 days and still not super impressive growth. There has been some, especially with spring rounding the corner. I can't wait to let them outside for a while. I've lost quite a few, some I think because not enough air was circulating and the soil stayed too wet. Others were lost to too much sunlight too quick when spring came around and the Windows weren't blinded.

I've also added a mimosa hostilis, in the bottom pic, should be easily identified and is only a 2.5 weeks from seed in soil.



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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #23162247 - 04/27/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

They should be bigger than that at 146 days. How many do you have in total? Te seventh picture or plant looks nice. But i think they should be way bigger than that. Here are mine at 8 montha or so.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23165415 - 04/28/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

It was 146 days since my last update, they're all between 8 and 10 months old. They are perking up now that winter has ended in the Midwest. I agree they should be bigger.


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: dil8]
    #23169550 - 04/29/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Any idea when I could expect berries off these? At what age?


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Re: Erythroxylum Novogranatense (E Novo) Seedlings [Re: Bumbaclotjohnson]
    #23170238 - 04/29/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Well mine threw one flower. But it fell off already. Ita common but i think the 3rd year.


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