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Iboga Healing, Experience?
#22168377 - 08/31/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Greetings guys!
I was wondering if anyone here have tired Iboga experience before, and if they would like to share their gains/experience from it.
Abit about my self, im male guy and have been really depressed over some years now, lacking in direction where i want to go, my mood is really down, and have a really low self asteem / self confidence. I dont have any drug problem or are addicted to anything. I like to keep all my problems to my self, because i find it hard to find anyone who can understand me and are afraid they will judge me for my problems.
I really want to change my self and my thinking.
Thats why i have been researching on Iboga (Have done ALOT of research) and was wondering if anyone here have experience from it and think that iboga could help me off my problem.
Would be really happy if someone could share their experience
Thanks
Edited by Boga (03/29/16 10:07 AM)
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Boga]
#22177646 - 09/02/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Greetings Boga,
Two days, and no replies. Shame on us! I have no experience with iboga, but: welcome to the shroomery!
I consider iboga to be really strong stuff, from what I've heard. And the stronger a substance, the longer I postpone it. That's the reason I've never started on DMT yet, and will most likely be postponing datura forever 
Ok, but seriously now, I understand some of your problems, but why take to iboga immediately? There are many other, possibly friendlier substances out there that can provide you insights and new angles on your life. Sometimes mushrooms can give you just that. I've heard of people with comparable problems that had great benefit from (good) MDMA. When taken with real friends it can open you up in a surprising way. When you are by yourself, even some good weed and quality reflection time can help.
Bottom line is: substances don't help you off your problem, only you can do that.
If you do go through with the iboga however, remember to write a trip report for this site! I'm sure people would like that.
Love, Hanz.
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Hanz]
#22178884 - 09/02/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hello Hanz!
Thanks for replying, was begining to wondering if this topic was wrong for this forum 
Yea, i know iboga is a really serious drug, and its nothing to joke about. Reason for i dont want to take the friendlier substance, is because i feel its more for recreation use. Example shrooms, mdma, weed. You will have a nice pleasure and good experience from it, and maybe want to do it again, to explore more.
But with Iboga, its an whole diffrent story, its like being stomp by an elephant in the face 100's of time, that you will be drag to hell and really experience what it's to be really afraid. And have read about some testimonials that the Iboga experience is one of the best things or maybe the best thing they have done in their life. That they feel they are more of them self after the journey. But maybe wont take it again, because the trip was to scary. (Looooong afterglow)
Also Iboga will show the root of your problem, even if you dont want to, it will. The Iboga will show your problems so directly that many have problem handling it. Thats why i like Iboga. It can change your whole thinking way, in a positive way.
Example: Addiction and Iboga. Iboga is not a miracle drug like, you take it and you no longer are addicted. But if you know you have a drug problem, and want to stop, but the withdrawals is too big that you can self-control it. Then Iboga can give you a big help. Its like you getting a new chance to fix your problem with a BIG head start, then its up to you if you want to move on with your life, or go back to your problems again.
So that is why im looking here on the forum, if someone have some experience with Iboga 
Thanks! Boga.
Edited by Boga (03/29/16 10:08 AM)
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Boga]
#22179172 - 09/02/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wonder why it helps with wds
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Boga]
#22179252 - 09/02/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hmm.. I see. But Boga, do you have any real experience with mushrooms?
I ask because every single thing you just said about iboga could just as well be said about mushrooms or LSD. Very much so in fact. Mushrooms and LSD are not recreational substances. They can be at low doses, but do not underestimate them at middle to high doses. They are just the way you talk about iboga. And probably safer too.
So only if you have already tried mushrooms many many times, and have gone up to super high doses, and are still unsatisfied is there any real reason to want to take such a strong medicine as iboga. (in my opinion)
Drugs are powerful tools. With some dangers attached. It is therefore probably best to start at the bottom and slowly work your way up. Both in how much you take of any given substance and in your choice of substance.
But if you're really enthusiastic about iboga, and have your eyes set on them for october, I wont stop you .
It's just not how I would do it. I would keep the strongest, hardest, most confrontational for later times... that way I can enjoy everything in the best way.
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Hanz]
#22180175 - 09/02/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would love to have an ibogane/iboga root experience I think it has seems like a great spiritual experience and i would love to hear how the ceremony goes. Best of luck to you. And as a side note im not reccomending anything as i am sure you know much more about what you need than i do. But i will add that ayahuasca is also a good one to look into
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Hello Hanz!
Well Hanz.. To be honest, i have absolut no experience with mushrooms or LSD. (would like to try)
But like i said, Iboga is no joke drug, and it should be handle with respect. I have always wanted to try LSD, but have no idea where i can get it.
The reason why i really want to take is that it can change your whole life/thinking in just one single trip. Like i posted early in the thread, i have been really depressed over a long period now. I feel its like an hole in my soul, im not happy anymore. I have try ed weed and stimulants to change my mood. It have help, but im ending always back to my original state where my mood is really depressed. So that is nothing for me, maybe it can help others but it's not for me.
I am really enthusiastic about iboga, but i also feel some fear for it, but now i have sign up and cant wait for it! Will make sure to share my experience here on shroomery.
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It's just not how I would do it. I would keep the strongest, hardest, most confrontational for later times... that way I can enjoy everything in the best way.
For me, i have nothing to lose. Also im not taking it to "enjoy" it hihi, but to find what i want and the root of all my problems.
Thanks for replying back guys
Edited by Boga (03/29/16 10:10 AM)
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Boga]
#22182155 - 09/03/15 09:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Boga said: I have always wanted to try LSD, but have no idea where i can get it.
True, it can be difficult for some to get quality LSD. But shrooms you can grow for yourself. Cheap, reliable, and from the best source: you!
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Boga said: For me, i have nothing to lose.
Of course I wish you the best, and do not want to speak doom, but be careful. You might just find out that you did have something to lose... when it is too late.
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Boga said: - Very Spiritual people with really good reputation and heart are hosting the ceremony.
Ah, now I'm starting to feel less concerned. If you have experienced guides to lead you through the session, it will most likely all end well.
The best!, and don't forget to check back in with us. I'm sure we all want to know.
ps: it's possible that the mods would move this thread to the "Other Drugs Discussion" forum, where it probably belongs.
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Hanz]
#22195793 - 09/06/15 05:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey!
Sorry for late reply, been busy. Anyway thanks for responding, and i will definitely leave a report here when im done 
But im still seeking for a person who have try a iboga experience
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Boga]
#22195886 - 09/06/15 06:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Perhaps I'm saying the obvious but, ... did you try our search engine?
I clicked on "search our forums" Then, from "forums to search" selected "trip reports" Then, entered the word "iboga" Then, pressed "Search!"
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Voila, a number of trip reports on iboga. What you were looking for, right?
The golden rule here is "search before you ask"...
Sometimes people don't reply if they feel you did not search before you asked.
Love, Hanz.
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: LuckeyMA]
#22195906 - 09/06/15 06:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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LuckeyMA said: I wonder why it helps with wds
Ibogaine and it's metabolites are mu opioid receptor agonists...
The naturally occurring indole alkaloid ibogaine is of interest because of its reported ability to block drug seeking behavior for extended periods. The compound also potentiates morphine-induced analgesia in mice and reduces certain naltrexone-precipitated withdrawal signs in morphine-dependent rats. Although these results might suggest ibogaine interaction with opioid receptors, previous receptor binding studies (Brain Res. 571:242-247, 1980) found that ibogaine had a Ki value of only 2 microM for the kappa opioid receptor and was virtually inactive in blocking mu and delta receptor binding (Ki > 100 microM). The present investigation of ibogaine interaction with the mu opioid receptor from mouse forebrain labeled with [3H]-naloxone, however, yielded significantly more potent mu opioid Ki values. LIGAND analysis indicated that the data were best fit by a two site binding model, with Ki values of about 130 nM and 4 microM, reflecting ibogaine recognition of different agonist affinity states of the receptor. Inclusion of 100 mM NaCl in the assay to induce the agonist low affinity state of the receptor, reduced ibogaine's inhibition of [3H]-naloxone binding. These results suggest that ibogaine is an agonist at the mu opioid receptor with a Ki value of about 130 nM, potentially explaining ibogaine's antinociceptive effects as well as its reported reduction of opioid withdrawal symptoms and attenuation of drug seeking behavior.- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7475926
This is why it can pull opioid addicts off of heroin or methadone with out the addict suffering from withdrawal.
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Boga]
#22196187 - 09/06/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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No Iboga experience here but am sure I will take it in time. Check out Aubrey Marcus for his experience on Iboga. He said althought it knocks you off your ass for 2-3 days (makes you SICK), it is very healing & he felt great at the end. I'm thinking I might want to take Ayahuasca before I venture into Iboga land.
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Intothewild]
#22196460 - 09/06/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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What worries me a little is that I heard the iboga confronts you with the pain you have caused other people in the past. Even about events that you may have completely forgotten.
Of course I try to be a nice guy these days, but I've done some serious hurting to those that did not deserve to be hurt.
I don't think I'm ready to be confronted with all that, I'm happy it's in the past.
After the iboga, am I going to want to apologize to those that I haven't to yet, after all these years? They must think I'm crazy remembering all that sheet. What am I going to tell them? That it has been eating me for so so long? That it's all perfectly normal, I just took some iboga?
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Hanz]
#22196923 - 09/06/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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- Hanz
I have aldready use shroomerys search engine, and i think its broke now because of over use 
No, but like i said early in the thread, i mention that i had done ALOT of research. espeically on shroomery,dmt-nexus and google. But i still feel im not satisfied with the information about iboga... I want more! i want to ask some question about someone who had try a iboga experience. The trip reports here on shroomery are few and old :/
- Intothewild
Have aldready read Aubrey Marcus's experience(many times), i think that is one of the top rank when your searching about iboga experience :p
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What worries me a little is that I heard the iboga confronts you with the pain you have caused other people in the past. Even about events that you may have completely forgotten.
Correct! Thats why i like Iboga, it will show you the roots of your problem, even if you like it or not. And you will meet your higher self 
But like i said, Iboga is nothing to about. There have been some fatal news recently, where iboga have been involved. So its not a miracle cure or a field with golden roses, but it can really help you if you have some inner problems
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Boga]
#22210703 - 09/09/15 04:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Still nobody with experience with it here on shroomery ?
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Hanz]
#22210750 - 09/09/15 04:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Saying Iboga is the same as LSD, Shrooms or even Ayahuasca is like comparing an Asteroid with Jupiter cause their both in space. Iboga is the undeniable k.i.n.g. of plant healers by a long shot and could very well lead to a cultural revolution if more people participated in it. It's pressing the reset button whether you fight it or not, there's literally no chance you're gonna make it trough a full flood dose with an intact ego, set and setting are way less imprtant than with other drugs. It washes you free from all dirt and leaves you with a feeling like you've just climbed the highest mountain with your bare hands. For months. The alkaloids in the Iboga plant are the most remarkeable in the whole plant world, only Caapi can somehow concur IMO.
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: hayabuser]
#22210767 - 09/09/15 05:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have never taken ibogaine, but I have heard it is unique from other psychedelics, I have heard the visions are eyes closed, and opening your eyes can interrupt them to a degree...I have also heard there's a heavy physical component to it.
Why was ibogaine scheduled? It doesn't seem it was ever a drug of abuse, I don't know anybody who has taken it, I have not heard of it being sold on the streets, well maybe a few anecdotes, but it's rare...
So why schedule one?
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I recommend mescaline if you get a chance, it's similar to ayahuasca and iboga in that it has therapeutic properties, and is generally easy to handle regardless of experience.
I recommend all psychedelics actually, I was incredibly depressed a few years back, and tbh I still am sometimes, not to mention I suffer from moderate social anxiety. By nature I'm a very pessimistic and introverted person, I can't help but focus on the negative side of things because I've always thought that was "the truth"...that the world is an icky, scary place and all who inhabit it have nothing but bad intentions. Might as well just lock myself in my room and waste away because who the fuck cares, its all pointless anyway. Who wants to be a part of this shitty world?
Psychedelics showed me I was wrong. There is beauty in the world, a lot of it. There are friendly people in the world, in fact I realized that the vast majority of people are actually quite friendly. I've found new appreciations for so many things including music, writing, education, and even socialization to an extent. I still follow a lot of my old habits, but I think I've gotten to the point where I can consider myself a functioning member of society.
Give it a shot man, with any of them that you are able to find. Also let us know how it goes, people around here really care about each other, I'd love to know how things turn out for you!
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: hayabuser]
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hayabuser said: Saying Iboga is the same as LSD, Shrooms or even Ayahuasca is like comparing an Asteroid with Jupiter cause their both in space.
Most likely true. I was just saying that if you venture out into space for the fist time, then maybe start by visiting an asteroid before impacting on Jupiter. On the other hand, it's more fun if we all do something different.
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: xThunder]
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xThunder said: I recommend mescaline if you get a chance, it's similar to ayahuasca and iboga in that it has therapeutic properties, and is generally easy to handle regardless of experience.
I recommend all psychedelics actually, I was incredibly depressed a few years back, and tbh I still am sometimes, not to mention I suffer from moderate social anxiety. By nature I'm a very pessimistic and introverted person, I can't help but focus on the negative side of things because I've always thought that was "the truth"...that the world is an icky, scary place and all who inhabit it have nothing but bad intentions. Might as well just lock myself in my room and waste away because who the fuck cares, its all pointless anyway. Who wants to be a part of this shitty world?
Psychedelics showed me I was wrong. There is beauty in the world, a lot of it. There are friendly people in the world, in fact I realized that the vast majority of people are actually quite friendly. I've found new appreciations for so many things including music, writing, education, and even socialization to an extent. I still follow a lot of my old habits, but I think I've gotten to the point where I can consider myself a functioning member of society.
Give it a shot man, with any of them that you are able to find. Also let us know how it goes, people around here really care about each other, I'd love to know how things turn out for you!
We're on the same wavelength here. Could have been my story. I'm doing reasonably well now, mood is ok although I'm still not functioning the full 100%.
On the other hand... getting my first cactus this month! 
And to the OP, yes, do let us know. PM me if you get back from the iboga session, just to make sure I don't miss the report.
Love, Hanz.
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: hayabuser]
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hayabuser said: Saying Iboga is the same as LSD, Shrooms or even Ayahuasca is like comparing an Asteroid with Jupiter cause their both in space. Iboga is the undeniable k.i.n.g. of plant healers by a long shot and could very well lead to a cultural revolution if more people participated in it. It's pressing the reset button whether you fight it or not, there's literally no chance you're gonna make it trough a full flood dose with an intact ego, set and setting are way less imprtant than with other drugs. It washes you free from all dirt and leaves you with a feeling like you've just climbed the highest mountain with your bare hands. For months. The alkaloids in the Iboga plant are the most remarkeable in the whole plant world, only Caapi can somehow concur IMO.
What you have described herein sounds intriguing and extremely fascinating to me. However, what you have described also sounds a lot like what I have experienced from Amanita Muscaria. A large dose of that, ain't no way is your ego making it through. But where does Iboga take you? Amanita takes you home to the Creator and in the most gentlest way, in addition to wiping your brain clean. Can Iboga match that?
I don't think anything can top Amanita but now you make me want to give it a try. Can I order the necessary plants online?
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: xThunder]
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xThunder said: I recommend mescaline if you get a chance, it's similar to ayahuasca and iboga in that it has therapeutic properties, and is generally easy to handle regardless of experience.
I recommend all psychedelics actually, I was incredibly depressed a few years back, and tbh I still am sometimes, not to mention I suffer from moderate social anxiety. By nature I'm a very pessimistic and introverted person, I can't help but focus on the negative side of things because I've always thought that was "the truth"...that the world is an icky, scary place and all who inhabit it have nothing but bad intentions. Might as well just lock myself in my room and waste away because who the fuck cares, its all pointless anyway. Who wants to be a part of this shitty world?
Psychedelics showed me I was wrong. There is beauty in the world, a lot of it. There are friendly people in the world, in fact I realized that the vast majority of people are actually quite friendly. I've found new appreciations for so many things including music, writing, education, and even socialization to an extent. I still follow a lot of my old habits, but I think I've gotten to the point where I can consider myself a functioning member of society.
Give it a shot man, with any of them that you are able to find. Also let us know how it goes, people around here really care about each other, I'd love to know how things turn out for you!
Great post!
I feel the world is both, it's the Coincidentia oppositorum, a sacred union of opposites. It can be positive or negative, beautiful or ugly, euphoric and depressing, etc...and often times is quantum in the sense that in most cases existence is positive AND negative, beautiful AND ugly, euphoric and depressing, all simultaneously. And by selectively limiting your surroundings and the people in those surroundings, as well as your thoughts (meaning try to only think about positive things while keeping negative thoughts to an absolute minimum) and if you only let good hearted positive people and influences into your life, only listen to positive music, only watch posotive movies, only go to positive places, only participate in positive activities, and so on, you will find you can begin to tip the scale towards the side of your choosing. (I'm not saying it's ok to ignore the negative or pretend it doesn't exist, I'm saying do all you can to limit your exposure to it)
DMT changed everything for me, and I've become a happy, well balanced, and emotionally stable person, where as before I had a good deal of anger, pessimism, anxiety, and fear.
I'm still a very quite and reclisive person, I keep to myself and socialize with very few people, I still generally prefer to be left alone, but the pessimism and fear that must plague any thinking human had been lifted out of my life, as had the mild anger and depression issues I had, and they have not returned since. (this experience occurred in 2012)
But...I have a habit of thinking that DMT can do this for everyone, which is wrong, it may fail for some, it may makes others worse, which is why I'm always very cautious in telling my story on this topic, I don't want to give you the false hope that DMT will do these things for you, I'm only saying it can, and did for me.
Unless your being mauled by a tiger or have the flu or something, the present moment is never all that bad, most negative perceptions and feelings are self generated...
the philosophy of Buddhism can really help you understand why you are unhappy, and can give you many tools for correcting this, and you don't need drugs or ritual or anything extreme, just some simple observations...they talk about "hidden knowledge", it's not hidden because someone is intentionally hiding it from you, it's hidden because it is not at all obvious, and had someone not pointed it out you probably never would have figured it out...any way, eastern philosophy is great for learning these techniques.
the more information you have the better you will do, and combined with propper knowledge in a proper setting, psychedelics can work miracles.
...but it's not without risk, the risks are all psychological with the classic psychedelics, but if your trying to improve a psychological disorder, you may end up actually doing more harm than good with these things, so pleas be careful.
Whatever path you take, be careful, be educated, and be safe.
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Just out of curiosity, in what manner do you use DMT for your benefit? I know it can do amazing things, but wasn't abled to generate much healing from it so far.
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: hayabuser]
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hayabuser said: Just out of curiosity, in what manner do you use DMT for your benefit? I know it can do amazing things, but wasn't abled to generate much healing from it so far.
The benneficial experience was my first with the compound (now every time I smoke DMT it's just a review of what happened to me the first time)
I smoked 200+ milligrams in a single breath, the DMT was on high grade cannabis indica, and before I could exhale I was in the grips of this thing.
...that's it, just a single very high initial dose.
People tend to take very low dose DMT, and they may have very mind boggling experiences, it may be the most intense thing that's ever happened to them, but it's not what I'm talking about, to achieve what I'm talking about you must venture into the deepest water.
This was the most significant experience in my life...
The thing was, I was not trying to heal myself (though I was suffering quite a bit), all of this kind of just happened, seemingly out of my control, this was also my initiation into spirituality and shamanism, though that's not what I was trying to do either...
Honestly, at that time I was exploring my mind with psilocin, really with no goal in mind other than I wanted to see what would happen, I wanted to test my reality, and somehow this amazing life changing event occurs...
...if that's how you are meant to be helped, God or the universe or whatever you want to call it will make it happen, seemingly regardless of how you actually feel about it...
The experience was traumatic, I experienced death, dismemberment, resurrection and rebirth...and I would never want to go through it again (though I'm sure we all do at death), but because of what it did for me, if I could go back, I would not change a thing.
(Please don't read this and go take a huge hit of DMT, it may not work for everyone, and it may make others worse, I'm not offering advice, I'm simply explaining what happened for me.
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...I'm not saying I know how to heal with DMT, but I can say that with the proper prior knowledge and setting it can work miracles.
if it did it for me by mistake, who knows this things potential when used in a therapeutic setting with proper goals in mind.
(...And ayahuasca is used this way to an extent, and maybe some heal better by being slowly eased into it, but for me the "noetic lightening strike" provided by smoked DMT was more beneficial than the scenic route (ayahuasca)
Some say the natives had the right idea by stretching a 15 minute experience into a 4-6 hour experience, but I think both methods are equally capable of healing and radical positive psychological change.
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Hello guys!
Thanks for keeping this thread interesting 
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Iboga is the undeniable k.i.n.g. of plant healers by a long shot and could very well lead to a cultural revolution if more people participated in it. It's pressing the reset button whether you fight it or not, there's literally no chance you're gonna make it trough a full flood dose with an intact ego.
Thats what im looking for, a reset button something that can change my thinking pattern. Dont think my ego is a big problem, always wish i had some kind of narcissism, or at least more of it, than now.
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I have heard the visions are eyes closed, and opening your eyes can interrupt them to a degree...I have also heard there's a heavy physical component to it.
Correct, have also read many reports where people say that when they close they're eyes they still can see their arms 100% clear, even if their eyes are closed. :o
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What you have described herein sounds intriguing and extremely fascinating to me. However, what you have described also sounds a lot like what I have experienced from Amanita Muscaria. A large dose of that, ain't no way is your ego making it through. But where does Iboga take you? Amanita takes you home to the Creator and in the most gentlest way, in addition to wiping your brain clean. Can Iboga match that?
I don't think anything can top Amanita but now you make me want to give it a try. Can I order the necessary plants online?
Interesting, but have read many places that its really dangerous and should only be taken in really low doses. But still think Iboga will top Amanita. Also i dont want my trip to be very gentle, but hard base facts about me and my problem. The core of all my problems. Wondering why I am who I are.
I will definitely give a report back after my ceremony  But... one thing im thinking about is.... am i maybe too optimistic/big hopes? Because all of the information i have go about iboga and ayahuasca is from other peoples experience. People have told mind blowing result, that almost seems to good too be true. So what can you guys say about psychedelic to a guy with no experience with psychedelic?
Sometimes i wish i were just like my friends, drinking, drugs, sex, everything like that. A simple/mainstream life. Too bad my brain hate that.
Well, right now its just over a month now, and i will head over to the ceremony to take Iboga, so cant wait! I have put everything behind me: work, school, family, friends, girlfriend, my goals and dream. Everything. I want to see what the higher version of me will say to me.
And one more thing: Why take Iboga and not Ayahuasca first? Well i have read a ton of reports from them both, and about ayahuasca i see people still seeking more from it (dont feel satisfied). Ofc many people get satisfied from it, but i also read people who have take ayahuasca 12... 25.... even 60 times... and still seeking for more.
But about Iboga, most of the people get satisfied on the first time, and dont want to take it again because it was too harsh. (They will maybe take it after a loooooong time)
But thanks guys, really like you replying back here  Got any question please ask ^^
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A little strange you're worried about the safety of amanitas when ibogaine is known to be a risky venture itself. People have and continue to die when taking it.
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Ok, since you asked what to expect from psychs as a first timer, I'll do what I can. I've never taken ibogaine. However, if it is similar to other psychedelics in any way, here are some of the things you may experience:
Upon onset, a generalized stimulation, possibly anxiety.
Coming up: A change in mood (positive or negative), something a feeling of tension, that often manifests in the body as well as the mind. Though it is far from guaranteed, transitioning from sobriety to psychedelia can sometimes be a little rough. After you do this, you will realize just how fragile your experience of consciousness and the senses really is and how much the brain actively generates that experience.
Tripping: This is probably the part I can give the least insight on, having not taken ibogaine. However, there are two pieces of advice which I consider important and useful for the inexperienced:
1. Trust sober you. Sober you made a planned and calculated decision to take this drug and produce this experience. If it were something that would cause you serious harm, sober you wouldn't have taken it.
2. Ego death. This is where a lot of newbies end up having a bad time. In this context, your ego isn't your own assessment of how cool/good a dude you are. Ego refers to the feeling that you have right now that you are an individual, distinct entity. You are you, you inhabit your body (poor phrasing because it implies I support dualism, which I don't) and are separate from all the other things. Just like every other thing you consciously experience, this feeling is actively generated by the brain. Psychedelics can interfere with this perception. This can range anywhere from feeling vaguely more "expanded" or in touch with your environment all the way to total one with the universe without any concept that "self" is a thing for awhile. The latter is what we would call ego death. Others would be better referred to as ego softening.
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Thanks LSDreamer for good explaination 
May i ask how was your life before you had a strong psychedelic experience?
Like philosophy, perspective, your dreams, your goals, familyies, friends, life?
Has everything change after trying psychedelics? Do you feel that your whole personality has change?
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I'm interested as well, I seem to think these things can do for everybody what they have done for me, and want to.see for how many people this is actually true.
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This is a really interesting video about an ibogaine experience and how it compares to ayahuasca. I suggest you watch it.
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Thanks Hemuli for shareing.
Have aldready hear the whole podcast a couple of times now
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Anyone here with Ayahuasca experience then ?
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I frequently use ayahuasca analogues, often times with banisteriopsis caapi vine, though peganum harmala seeds have become my source of choice, and I use acacia confusa rootbark almost exclusively for the "light"
Force = the MAOI Light = the DMT
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For some reason people seem unecessarily scared of aminita. While it is true that very high doses can be dangerous, most people who are newly experimenting with amanita wouldn't even want to take anywhere near a fatal amount at first anyway. You can get decent effects from low to moderate amounts and from what I have read, there are very few if any documented cases of death from aminita muscaria overdoses. Some of the other aminita variations are more toxic and do kill people, but in my opinion, as long as you are careful and start small you are very unlikely to die from aminita. I take it all the time and I feel fine.
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Force = the MAOI Light = the DMT
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That's interesting. Any nausea like symptoms with those combinations? Some less than others perhaps?
Btw, I like that, Force + Light
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If you look at a compounds ED50 and then look at its LD50, and mesure the gap between, the larger that gap is, the less likley you are to overdose.
I have yet to try A. Muscaria, I have heard from most that it is unpleasant, some say its great, ibotenic acid, and Muscimol are not tryptamines or phenethylamines and are catagorizaed as deleriants, which has always scared me away from them, I have heard its far more pleasent than datura though, I'm somewhat curious, I have also heard that you have to harvest them from the right place at the right time of year, or they will ne unpleasent, but I'm not sure if that's true.
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: I frequently use ayahuasca analogues, often times with banisteriopsis caapi vine, though peganum harmala seeds have become my source of choice, and I use acacia confusa rootbark almost exclusively for the "light"
Force = the MAOI Light = the DMT
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That's interesting. Any nausea like symptoms with those combinations? Some less than others perhaps?
Btw, I like that, Force + Light 
I cant remember where the force/light thing came from, but I did not invent it, they see ayahuasca as the coincidentia oppositorum (unity of opposites) the light is feminine the force is masculine, I heard they even only let females handle the psychotoria viridis (light) and males only handle the banisteriopsis caapi (force)
In my peganum harmala / acacia confusa brews I'm using 4g PHS to 12g ACRB, nausea can be an issue, but its not suffering nausea, its really quite easy to deal with, at least it is for me, I really don't even purge that often, but when I do it actually feels good, its not like the dry heaves from alcohol or the flu, nothing like that...ive found marijuana helps, at medical marijuana centers they sell THC tea-bags full of activated THC, sometimes I just brew it into my ayahuasca, other times I smoke.
Though I only use every full moon or when there's no moon, its spiritually motivated, and when you do these things right you don't need to do them often, so some time ill take long breaks without taking oasca at all (I use oasca over huasca when I'm speaking of analogues, I may be the only one who means analogue with the oasca spelling though, so sorry if that's confusing) I'm fairly knowledgeable with ayahuasca and ayahuasca analogues, and have had some good teachers, so I'm happy to.share information.
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I dont know if its known who invented the force/light thing it might be something from the amazon. Im pretty sure i have seen it in a ghram handcock book talking about his trips to the amazon and a few other sources.
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...I was thinking either "santo daime" or "unaio do vegetal" just because of the ritual preperation described where only females handle the light and only males handle the force...
Is Graham Hancock one of the ancient alien guys?
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Your right though, those are both amazonian churches.
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Maybe im not really sure i only really know of him because of his book supernaturnatural meetings with the ancient teachers of mankind. Its a pretty interesting read and if im not mistaken starts out with him talking about an ibogane experience
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Really? Perhaps ill look into him, I thought he was all about aliens or archaeological sites, I never knew he was talking about plant psychedelics, that's pretty cool.
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He does talk about aliens and spirits and stuff in the book but he also talks quite a bit about his experience with ibogane, dmt, and aya in the amazon
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Boga said: Thanks LSDreamer for good explaination 
May i ask how was your life before you had a strong psychedelic experience?
Like philosophy, perspective, your dreams, your goals, familyies, friends, life?
Has everything change after trying psychedelics? Do you feel that your whole personality has change?
Sorry for the late response, I haven't been active in a couple days.
Basically, no. I do not believe that psychedelics caused any particularly strong and enduring change in my personality. They probably made me more interested in drugs and got me around around other...ahem....drug "enthusasts", so to speak. Which ultimately led to me being an opiate addict. I would have figured all that out without the acid, of course, but psychedelics definitely made it easier to get in contact with people who sold other drugs.
If anything, psychedelics reinforced my existing beliefs. Probably helped reinforce my interest in them, so I would mark that down in the positive column.
As far as my beliefs and philosophies go, the labels I would identify with are: Skeptic, Empiricist, Atheist, and Marxist. Just to name a few. As I mentioned, taking psychedelics can make you very, very aware of just how much of your experience is actively constructed. Psychedelics probably reinforced and maintained my interest in things like psychology and neurology.
I have suffered from pretty severe depression and anxiety since I was about 15. I do not think that psychedelics have had any significant and enduring effect on my condition. That said, I do think that psychedelics can be beneficial. Psychedelics do produce similar thought patterns in most people. LSD in particular always made me feel like my problems weren't as bad as I was making them out to be. LSD also, more than any other psychedelic, made me marvel at and enjoy the inherent beauty and wonder of the universe.
Anyway, hope some of that made sense. It's 3AM and I'm high on opiates. Will clarify or expand on anything.
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Sorry for the late response, I haven't been active in a couple days.
Basically, no. I do not believe that psychedelics caused any particularly strong and enduring change in my personality. They probably made me more interested in drugs and got me around around other...ahem....drug "enthusasts", so to speak. Which ultimately led to me being an opiate addict. I would have figured all that out without the acid, of course, but psychedelics definitely made it easier to get in contact with people who sold other drugs.
If anything, psychedelics reinforced my existing beliefs. Probably helped reinforce my interest in them, so I would mark that down in the positive column.
As far as my beliefs and philosophies go, the labels I would identify with are: Skeptic, Empiricist, Atheist, and Marxist. Just to name a few. As I mentioned, taking psychedelics can make you very, very aware of just how much of your experience is actively constructed. Psychedelics probably reinforced and maintained my interest in things like psychology and neurology.
I have suffered from pretty severe depression and anxiety since I was about 15. I do not think that psychedelics have had any significant and enduring effect on my condition. That said, I do think that psychedelics can be beneficial. Psychedelics do produce similar thought patterns in most people. LSD in particular always made me feel like my problems weren't as bad as I was making them out to be. LSD also, more than any other psychedelic, made me marvel at and enjoy the inherent beauty and wonder of the universe.
Anyway, hope some of that made sense. It's 3AM and I'm high on opiates. Will clarify or expand on anything.
Interesting, may i ask you LSDreamer, which psychedelics do you have experience with?
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LSD and mushrooms extensively. LSD likely between 100-200 trips, mushrooms probably 30-40. Besides that I've taken 2C-B, 2C-E, 2C-I, 1P-LSD (almost indistinguishable from LSD), DMT (never broke through), 25i-nbome, salvia, mescaline (extracted from cactus, just once). Also ketamine, MXE, and DXM if you count disassociatives, which would actually include salvia now that I think of it. I think that's everything. I could be missing something.
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My DMT breakthrough was what caused intense change in my mental state, and ultimately in my life, I lost all my fear and anxiety of death and went from an agnostic to a spiritual person near instantly, my entire philosophical outlook went from one of cynical bleak nihilism, to one of spiritual beauty, optimism, and happiness.
This occurred once on psilocin, but it was far to mild to have much of a transformitive effect. I had taken around 9g of stropharia cubensis washed down with a vitimin water mixture containg 1000mg ascorbic acid, and a small amount of peganum harmala seeds, these were strange cubensis, the person I got them from thought they were no good, so I ate all 9g (had I thought these were potent cubensis I never would have done such a thing), I waited 20 minutes and did not feel much so I went to sleep, I awoke in terror believing that I had died in my sleep...it was a pretty intense freak-out, and was my first inclination of conscious existance after death.
And once on DMT, it was my first time (well, I smoked DMT once before but it didn't work, I took 3 huge hits and it just felt like an intense 15 minute psilocin/salvinorin-a combination) but the first time I really smoked I had .20 ,maybe a bit more , on the digi, which is 200mgs, I poured it onto some high grade marijuana and cashed it in a single breath, and like being struck by lightening I was dead...and the story goes on, ive told it many times.
I think its the noetic shock of an initial single dose that produces change, I was fairly traumatized by the experiance, it was the most difficult thing I have ever gone through, but its this difficulty that causes the extreme change, and for me it confirmed conscious existance after death, that was the key change was going from agnostic to spiritual.
I don't experiance death every time I take a psychedelic, its only happened twice, but the time on DMT was whats called a "peak experiance" or "breaking open the head" or "the beatific vision" or having your "3rd eye opened", its a life changing, transformitive experiance...I have had people say "I smoke 50 milligrams (.05 on a digi-scale) and it is the most intense thing I have ever experianced"...but its still not what I'm talking about, it doesn't come anywhere near what I'm talking about.
Some can even make the connection with spirituality from using psilocin, it almost happened for me on psilocin, but for others it seems to be sufficient, as detailed in the link below. (These were already religious people in some cases who knew spiritual experiance with out entheogens, and came to admit that the psilocin did produce genuine spiritual experiance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Chapel_Experiment
Thank you for your input though, because I seem to be under the impression that these compounds can do for everybody what they did for me, when in reality its probably a far smaller percentage of psychedelic users that experiance spiritual transformation and divine awakening.
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I can tell you right now that no experience psychedelics could produce will change my position on spirituality. It's something that I've quite thoroughly figured out what I think and why. Psychedelics can induce experiences most people would describe as "spiritual", however I tend not to use that word as a supernatural element is implied by the word.
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I suppose it may depend on a natural affinity towards spirituality, or I may have become spiritual regardless and the DMT was just the straw that broke the camels back. I suppose that no matter who you are they will provide you with what the universe most needs you to have.
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Hello,
I didn't read this entire post, but I have experience with taking Iboga for depression/anxiety.
I journeyed exactly 1 year ago in Costa Rica at the iboga Wellness Center.....Ibogas the real deal. It's hard to describe the actual experience but it's a healer for sure....the strongest medicine I've worked with, yet the most humane, grounded, and introspective medicine. It's not cosmic, it's truth.....raw truth...
.it's all introspective self therapy. It doesn't teach you much that you don't already know or give you something that you didn't already have. It just shows you yourself and it allows you to view, work with and explore your memories, consciousness and sub conscious. You can almost watch yourself thinking from an outside point of view, and THEN you see and understand your shortcomings and the roots of your problems. It's intense and can be physically taxing.....expect at least 36 hours until you start to rebound.........BUT after my second day I awoke the next morning with a clear mind......deep clean breathing and a sense of calm and content I haven't felt since I was a carefree child. Not a single thought in my head.....This feeling lasted for a few weeks and slowly tapered down to a pleasant positive afterglow that went on for 3 months......
NOW I am experiencing anxiety, and depression again.....I am able to deal with it little better because of the lessons iboga taught me, but the MOST important aspect working with Iboga is this;
It clears your head for a given period of time.....during this time you have the opportunity to make changes in your life that will lead you to being a happy person.......you have to take advantage of this time period to make changes or your thinking habits will slip back into their respective neurological path ruts and you'll be back at square one.
Im planning a return trip now that I understand the medicine better and how to utilize its teachings.
*****do not take iboga alone. Have a sitter for the entire experience..... Better yet connect with an underground provider and have them guide you through the experience and dose you properly....better yet; go to costa rica or Mexico to a reputable clinic...... Lots of good people in it for the right reasons.
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Hey Joey!
Finally someone who have experience with Iboga !
Got some joy from reading your post, but it ended when you said your back to some anxiety and depression again  May i ask what happen? Dident you take the opportunity when you had your afterglow to change your old habbits?
Do you remmeber most of your trip? If you do, got any details about it? Really want to hear your story. Do you got any kind of addict problems? Or what kind of depression you have?
Did you take a flood dose? Did you meet your higher self? Did you experience death /reborn ?
What in life has change after your iboga experience?
Got any tips/preparation for someone taking Iboga for first time?
- Like to hear more from you 
Also im wondering about one thing, when you are tripping on some psychedelic (special: Aya and Iboga) how long do you feel you have been tripping for, after an psychedelic experience? hours, days, weeks, months, years?
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Boga]
#22259090 - 09/19/15 06:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow, finally a person who has actually tried this stuff..
I'm interested in iboga because it can pull a person off opioids without withdrawl, anybody know anything about it from this perspective?
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Joey Rigatoli said: Hello,
I didn't read this entire post, but I have experience with taking Iboga for depression/anxiety.
I journeyed exactly 1 year ago in Costa Rica at the iboga Wellness Center.....Ibogas the real deal. It's hard to describe the actual experience but it's a healer for sure....the strongest medicine I've worked with, yet the most humane, grounded, and introspective medicine. It's not cosmic, it's truth.....raw truth...
.it's all introspective self therapy. It doesn't teach you much that you don't already know or give you something that you didn't already have. It just shows you yourself and it allows you to view, work with and explore your memories, consciousness and sub conscious. You can almost watch yourself thinking from an outside point of view, and THEN you see and understand your shortcomings and the roots of your problems. It's intense and can be physically taxing.....expect at least 36 hours until you start to rebound.........BUT after my second day I awoke the next morning with a clear mind......deep clean breathing and a sense of calm and content I haven't felt since I was a carefree child. Not a single thought in my head.....This feeling lasted for a few weeks and slowly tapered down to a pleasant positive afterglow that went on for 3 months......
NOW I am experiencing anxiety, and depression again.....I am able to deal with it little better because of the lessons iboga taught me, but the MOST important aspect working with Iboga is this;
It clears your head for a given period of time.....during this time you have the opportunity to make changes in your life that will lead you to being a happy person.......you have to take advantage of this time period to make changes or your thinking habits will slip back into their respective neurological path ruts and you'll be back at square one.
Im planning a return trip now that I understand the medicine better and how to utilize its teachings.
*****do not take iboga alone. Have a sitter for the entire experience..... Better yet connect with an underground provider and have them guide you through the experience and dose you properly....better yet; go to costa rica or Mexico to a reputable clinic...... Lots of good people in it for the right reasons.
Peace
If it is true that Ibogaine is able to give you a significant length of time more or less symptom free and motivated, I strongly urge you to use that time to completely restructure your life. Develop and habituate self-care practices, both physical and mental. If you don't already know about it, I highly suggest looking into Mindfulness, possibly even finding a psychologist (like, actual psychologist rather than a "license therapist" it may be irrational, but I just don't trust them to have the necessary training) who combines the approaches of Cognitive-Behavioral therapy (especially Rational-Emotive Behavior Therapy) and Mindfulness. When the effort is made to learn and practice those techniques, it makes a dramatic impact on your mental stability and overall feeling of well-being. Mindfulness is much more than just meditation, but the meditation component, if done consistently and stuck with, is probably the most profoundly effective tool I've ever encountered for combating depression and anxiety. Once you've done it consistently for awhile (not even THAT long), taking just a few moments to meditate is enough to dramatically alter your perspective and disrupt and dissipate negative thoughts.
I'm likely not telling you anything you don't already know, just trying to offer some helpful advice from someone with severe chronic depression and anxiety and substance dependence.
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: LSDreamer]
#22262179 - 09/19/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Got some joy from reading your post, but it ended when you said your back to some anxiety and depression again May i ask what happen?
Dident you take the opportunity when you had your afterglow to change your old habbits? Do you remmeber most of your trip? If you do, got any details about it? Really want to hear your story. Do you got any kind of addict problems? Or what kind of depression you have? Did you take a flood dose? Did you meet your higher self? Did you experience death /reborn ? What in life has change after your iboga experience? Got any tips/preparation for someone taking Iboga for first time?
I took 2 seperate flood doses 3 days apart. I remember much of the visions, lessons, retreived memories, voices etc.
On my second journey I was quided by a Shaman and introduced to my soul and I was able to ask myself a list of questions that I had prepared.....the answers I received were all very basic and revolved around pursing happiness above all, not recognition, money, success etc..
When I awoke after my first session I felt as though I had been reborn in a way, very fresh clear mind....no thoughts what so ever...no inner monoloag etc.
I lost my desire to drink alcohol completely and a year later I still rarley drink....alcohol was not a problem for me, but I grew up with a father that was/is an alcoholic. It's been strange not drinking but the urge simply isnt there....I didn't feel the need to smoke, but continued to as I was traveling costa rica and still do today....I'll quit when i take iboga next.
As far as opiates, I've seen it take a gram a day user and it got him clean and smiling within 3 days. Unreal....it works....I was using H and oxy very lightly before my journey and after taking iboga I didn't even think about opiates for a few months.
I returned back to my regular life and things were great for several months, but it is easy to slowly slip back into paterns that took years to create.....just like gaining weight...you don't notice, because its so slow but someone you haven't seen in months notices you put on 10 lbs the second they see you. I felt good when i returned and didn't feel i needed to change anything because I felt great.....in reality I should have started practicing meditation, yoga more frequently, etc etc etc.
My advice for taking iboga is this 1) don't have any expectations of the experience itself...its different for everyone. 2) make up your mind on the things you want to change and use Iboga as a helping hand to make this change, DONT expect it to do all the work for you 3) dont try to control the experience....you MUST let go and it will take care of you.
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Boga]
#22262363 - 09/19/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Iboga actually kills people. No thanks.
The knowledge that this mescaline/mushrooms/morning glory is very unlikely to actually kill me each time it feels like death is reassuring.
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Joey Rigatoli said: but I returned back to my regular life and things were great for several months, but it is easy to slowly slip back into paterns that took years to create.....just like gaining weight...you don't notice, because its so slow but someone you haven't seen in months notices you put on 10 lbs the second they see you. I felt good when i returned and didn't feel i needed to change anything because I felt great.....in reality I should have started practicing meditation, yoga more frequently, etc etc etc.
Pretty much what you described. For a good 6 months or so I was stable, happy, positive, and peaceful. This is such a profound difference from how I normally am, the threat of slipping back into my depressed, drug addicted baseline seemed more distant and less threatening. Inch by inch, my self care practices slipped and, eventually, it all caught up to me and I was back to depression , anxiety, and drug abuse. I'm working on digging myself back out of this hole. It's tough, but I'll make it.
To be clear, I have not taken inogaine. I'm a drug addict, my drug of choice being opioids. I went to 3months in an inpatient treatment program/facility in May of last year. If was a good program, and I did their outpatient for awhile.
Why I didn't stay clean is nothing but my own issues with willpower, consistency, etc.
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: LSDreamer]
#22263351 - 09/20/15 02:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks Joey for sharing your experience.
To bad you get back to your old habbits, hope you get better next time
Did you feel that it was too early to try iboga? Did you have any intension to stop with all drugs?
These months with afterglow, how did this affect your life? Like if you was working/ your job, or studying, friends? You must have get something out of it 
Also, while you were tripping how long did the trip feel? Like eternity?
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Boga]
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This thread has turned into a very interesting read indeed.
I have a long way to go before I'd be willing to try iboga, but I'm heading in the general direction 
Interesting also to read about your thoughts on mindfulness LSDreamer, I'm starting with a mindfulness course this week. I have no real addiction problems, but do suffer from a kind of OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder) that invades my everyday life in a negative way. As I understand it now, mindfulness is in a way spiritual without being supernatural. So, I'm interested in seeing how far spirituality can go without becoming in any way supernatural, and how it can benefit my life in general.
Btw, I consider myself to be an agnostic, but I'm open to the supernatural in a poetic way. It can be thought provoking and even insightful to read about the spiritual, even the supernatural, without having to believe in its literal objective or material truth. I hope that when, one day, DMT for example confronts me with the spirit realm I'll be able to integrate the experience in this mindset.
I wish everyone on this thread the best, and hope to read more..
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Hanz]
#22272806 - 09/22/15 06:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey Hanz!
Long time no see, hehe was wondering where you was 
Your saying that you have a long way before you are willing to try iboga? Why?
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Boga said: Hey Hanz!
Long time no see, hehe was wondering where you was 
Your saying that you have a long way before you are willing to try iboga? Why?
Hi!, .. well, kind of like i said, for me there's a natural order of things, build from low to high, from slow to fast, from mild to strong. I'm only half way now. Not ready yet for the ultimate summit of super strong trips.
And I don't trip every week, so it takes time to build things up...
Look, some examples: I just bought my first cactus, so there's that for this season. If that's a success I want to at least do that a couple of times before going to the next chapter.
I haven't done strong LSD in a long long time, but I think I can now get some good stuff. So there's that.. again, that'll keep me busy for a while.
Then, when I feel confident and experienced with those two, and only then, do I think I'm ready to start with any kind of DMT, ayahuasca, pharmahuasca, etc, .. all the DMT based stuff. That's supposed to be ultimate!
Finally, before I'm too old to do any of this (won't be too long, I still have hair on top, but it's gray on the sides ) after all that, and if I still have it in me, then.. then I might be ready for the ibogaine level trips.
And don't forget, there's all these other things in the meantime. There's mushrooms
There's my MXE experimentation, very interesting that, I'm only just starting with that, not just recreational but really spiritual stuff. Another step before moving up...

Ever heard of 4-Aco-MET? From what I've heard, there's a chemical I would like to meet! Another one on the to do list.

And any number of other substances and combinations thereof. Man!..my first hippyflip this summer was like
So, it'll be a while before I reach the summit of the strongest stuff on the planet
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Hanz]
#22337608 - 10/05/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Joey Rigatoli. you there ? Still got some question about iboga.
Also guys, while you were tripping how long did the trip feel? Like eternity? When you takeing a really strong psychedelics ?
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IME on shrooms or acid there can be periods when only a part of you understands what time means. This part can grow smaller and smaller if you trip harder. At some point time can loose all meaning. To then say it lasts long would therefore not be accurate.
When sober time can be experienced as a linear phenomenon. But when tripping I have felt that time can bend, even take 90 degree turns. In some sense it then stopped moving in the normal direction. But it didn't freeze. There just appeared to be a whole new space that time could move in.
Some people report loops, where they do, think, or experience the same sequence over and over.
And I've heard that on DMT (or salvia) you can indeed experience some very long time duration when in real life only say 15 minutes pass. People have said to have lived many lives in a single very short trip. Strange stuff...
Love, Hanz.
ps: IIRC you've asked about time before. Any special reason for that?
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Hanz]
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Hello Hanz!
Thanks for replying back 
Well the reason i was asking about time, is because i have also read some place where some people have take lsd/dmt or any other psychedelics and have been triping for maybe some hours, but they have been feeling that they have been triping for many.. many.. years(or lived many lives). And that just strange but it really fascinating me How cool! 
Damn, the ceremony is close 
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Hope i will get something out of it.
Thanks for everyone who has share their knowledge and info about it 
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All the best Boga! I'll be thinking of you. I really hope you enjoy it, and that you write us a trip report.
We want to know 
I have a little MXE adventure planned for tomorrow night, but compared to you I'm sure I'll stay firmly in close earth orbit 
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Hanz]
#22501091 - 11/09/15 04:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Has anybody heard anything from Boga after his ordeal?
It's such a pity when people never report back. Especially after iboga.
So much anticipation, so much love, and then.... nothing.
Boga, are you there man? You left us with our worries man. Did you even live to tell the tale?
Don't ever think we don't care... 
Love, Hanz.
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I would like to know how little iboga i can use for one treatment? and in what form? I don't have any drug addictions but poor health and take lots of vitamin supplements (maybe addictive). some depression and PTSD
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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: openeye5]
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openeye5 said: I would like to know how little iboga i can use for one treatment? and in what form? I don't have any drug addictions but poor health and take lots of vitamin supplements (maybe addictive). some depression and PTSD
Please do some research on this yourself, and report your findings back here. I don't know anything about iboga really, but I do know that it is essential to do your own research with a substance of this potency.
Perhaps this is a good place to start?: https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ibogaine/ibogaine.shtml https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Iboga_TA_extraction
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