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Iboga Healing, Experience?
    #22168377 - 08/31/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Greetings guys!

I was wondering if anyone here have tired Iboga experience before, and if they would like to share their gains/experience from it.

Abit about my self, im male guy and have been really depressed over some years now, lacking in direction where i want to go, my mood is really down, and have a really low self asteem / self confidence. I dont have any drug problem or are addicted to anything. I like to keep all my problems to my self, because i find it hard to find anyone who can understand me and are afraid they will judge me for my problems.

I really want to change my self and my thinking.

Thats why i have been researching on Iboga (Have done ALOT of research) and was wondering if anyone here have experience from it and think that iboga could help me off my problem.

Would be really happy if someone could share their experience

Thanks :smile:


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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Boga]
    #22177646 - 09/02/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Greetings Boga,

Two days, and no replies. Shame on us! I have no experience with iboga, but: welcome to the shroomery!

I consider iboga to be really strong stuff, from what I've heard. And the stronger a substance, the longer I postpone it. That's the reason I've never started on DMT yet, and will most likely be postponing datura forever :lol:

Ok, but seriously now, I understand some of your problems, but why take to iboga immediately? There are many other, possibly friendlier substances out there that can provide you insights and new angles on your life. Sometimes mushrooms can give you just that. I've heard of people with comparable problems that had great benefit from (good) MDMA. When taken with real friends it can open you up in a surprising way. When you are by yourself, even some good weed and quality reflection time can help.

Bottom line is: substances don't help you off your problem, only you can do that.

If you do go through with the iboga however, remember to write a trip report for this site! I'm sure people would like that.

Love, Hanz.


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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Hanz]
    #22178884 - 09/02/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hello Hanz!

Thanks for replying, was begining to wondering if this topic was wrong for this forum :smile:

Yea, i know iboga is a really serious drug, and its nothing to joke about. Reason for i dont want to take the friendlier substance, is because i feel its more for recreation use. Example shrooms, mdma, weed. You will have a nice pleasure and good experience from it, and maybe want to do it again, to explore more.

But with Iboga, its an whole diffrent story, its like being stomp by an elephant in the face 100's of time, that you will be drag to hell and really experience what it's to be really afraid. And have read about some testimonials that the Iboga experience is one of the best things or maybe the best thing they have done in their life. That they feel they are more of them self after the journey. But maybe wont take it again, because the trip was to scary. (Looooong afterglow)

Also Iboga will show the root of your problem, even if you dont want to, it will. The Iboga will show your problems so directly that many have problem handling it. Thats why i like Iboga. It can change your whole thinking way, in a positive way.

Example: Addiction and Iboga. Iboga is not a miracle drug like, you take it and you no longer are addicted. But if you know you have a drug problem, and want to stop, but the withdrawals is too big that you can self-control it. Then Iboga can give you a big help. Its like you getting a new chance to fix your problem with a BIG head start, then its up to you if you want to move on with your life, or go back to your problems again.


So that is why im looking here on the forum, if someone have some experience with Iboga :smile:


Thanks! Boga.


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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Boga]
    #22179172 - 09/02/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I wonder why it helps with wds


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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Boga]
    #22179252 - 09/02/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hmm.. I see. But Boga, do you have any real experience with mushrooms?

I ask because every single thing you just said about iboga could just as well be said about mushrooms or LSD. Very much so in fact. Mushrooms and LSD are not recreational substances. They can be at low doses, but do not underestimate them at middle to high doses. They are just the way you talk about iboga. And probably safer too.

So only if you have already tried mushrooms many many times, and have gone up to super high doses, and are still unsatisfied is there any real reason to want to take such a strong medicine as iboga. (in my opinion)

Drugs are powerful tools. With some dangers attached. It is therefore probably best to start at the bottom and slowly work your way up. Both in how much you take of any given substance and in your choice of substance.

But if you're really enthusiastic about iboga, and have your eyes set on them for october, I wont stop you :grin:.

It's just not how I would do it. I would keep the strongest, hardest, most confrontational for later times... that way I can enjoy everything in the best way.


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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Hanz]
    #22180175 - 09/02/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I would love to have an ibogane/iboga root experience I think it has seems like a great spiritual experience and i would love to hear how the ceremony goes. Best of luck to you. And as a side note im not reccomending anything as i am sure you know much more about what you need than i do. But i will add that ayahuasca is also a good one to look into


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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: stuckinwonderland]
    #22182050 - 09/03/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hello Hanz!

Well Hanz.. To be honest, i have absolut no experience with mushrooms or LSD. (would like to try)

But like i said, Iboga is no joke drug, and it should be handle with respect. I have always wanted to try LSD, but have no idea where i can get it.

The reason why i really want to take is that it can change your whole life/thinking in just one single trip. Like i posted early in the thread, i have been really depressed over a long period now. I feel its like an hole in my soul, im not happy anymore. I have try ed weed and stimulants to change my mood. It have help, but im ending always back to my original state where my mood is really depressed. So that is nothing for me, maybe it can help others but it's not for me.

I am really enthusiastic about iboga, but i also feel some fear for it, but now i have sign up and cant wait for it! :laugh: Will make sure to share my experience here on shroomery.

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It's just not how I would do it. I would keep the strongest, hardest, most confrontational for later times... that way I can enjoy everything in the best way.




For me, i have nothing to lose. Also im not taking it to "enjoy" it :grin: hihi, but to find what i want and the root of all my problems.






Thanks for replying back guys :smile:


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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Boga]
    #22182155 - 09/03/15 09:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Boga said:
I have always wanted to try LSD, but have no idea where i can get it.





True, it can be difficult for some to get quality LSD. But shrooms you can grow for yourself. Cheap, reliable, and from the best source: you!

Quote:

Boga said:
For me, i have nothing to lose.




Of course I wish you the best, and do not want to speak doom, but be careful. You might just find out that you did have something to lose... when it is too late.


Quote:

Boga said:
- Very Spiritual people with really good reputation and heart are hosting the ceremony.





Ah, now I'm starting to feel less concerned. If you have experienced guides to lead you through the session, it will most likely all end well.

The best!, and don't forget to check back in with us. I'm sure we all want to know.

ps: it's possible that the mods would move this thread to the "Other Drugs Discussion" forum, where it probably belongs.


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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Hanz]
    #22195793 - 09/06/15 05:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hey!

Sorry for late reply, been busy.
Anyway thanks for responding, and i will definitely leave a report here when im done :smile:

But im still seeking for a person who have try a iboga experience :smirk:


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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Boga]
    #22195886 - 09/06/15 06:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Perhaps I'm saying the obvious but, ... did you try our search engine?

I clicked on "search our forums"
Then, from "forums to search" selected "trip reports"
Then, entered the word "iboga"
Then, pressed "Search!"

...

Voila, a number of trip reports on iboga. What you were looking for, right?

The golden rule here is "search before you ask"...

Sometimes people don't reply if they feel you did not search before you asked. 

Love, Hanz.


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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: LuckeyMA]
    #22195906 - 09/06/15 06:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I wonder why it helps with wds




Ibogaine and it's metabolites are mu opioid receptor agonists...

The naturally occurring indole alkaloid ibogaine is of interest because of its reported ability to block drug seeking behavior for extended periods. The compound also potentiates morphine-induced analgesia in mice and reduces certain naltrexone-precipitated withdrawal signs in morphine-dependent rats. Although these results might suggest ibogaine interaction with opioid receptors, previous receptor binding studies (Brain Res. 571:242-247, 1980) found that ibogaine had a Ki value of only 2 microM for the kappa opioid receptor and was virtually inactive in blocking mu and delta receptor binding (Ki > 100 microM). The present investigation of ibogaine interaction with the mu opioid receptor from mouse forebrain labeled with [3H]-naloxone, however, yielded significantly more potent mu opioid Ki values. LIGAND analysis indicated that the data were best fit by a two site binding model, with Ki values of about 130 nM and 4 microM, reflecting ibogaine recognition of different agonist affinity states of the receptor. Inclusion of 100 mM NaCl in the assay to induce the agonist low affinity state of the receptor, reduced ibogaine's inhibition of [3H]-naloxone binding. These results suggest that ibogaine is an agonist at the mu opioid receptor with a Ki value of about 130 nM, potentially explaining ibogaine's antinociceptive effects as well as its reported reduction of opioid withdrawal symptoms and attenuation of drug seeking behavior.- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7475926

This is why it can pull opioid addicts off of heroin or methadone with out the addict suffering from withdrawal.

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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Boga]
    #22196187 - 09/06/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

No Iboga experience here but am sure I will take it in time. Check out Aubrey Marcus for his experience on Iboga. He said althought it knocks you off your ass for 2-3 days (makes you SICK), it is very healing & he felt great at the end. I'm thinking I might want to take Ayahuasca before I venture into Iboga land.


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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Intothewild]
    #22196460 - 09/06/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

What worries me a little is that I heard the iboga confronts you with the pain you have caused other people in the past. Even about events that you may have completely forgotten.

Of course I try to be a nice guy these days, :lol: but I've done some serious hurting to those that did not deserve to be hurt.  :luvdemshrooms:

I don't think I'm ready to be confronted with all that, I'm happy it's in the past.

After the iboga, am I going to want to apologize to those that I haven't to yet, after all these years? They must think I'm crazy remembering all that sheet. What am I going to tell them? That it has been eating me for so so long? That it's all perfectly normal, I just took some iboga?


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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Hanz]
    #22196923 - 09/06/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

- Hanz

I have aldready use shroomerys search engine, and i think its broke now because of over use :grin:

No, but like i said early in the thread, i mention that i had done ALOT of research. espeically on shroomery,dmt-nexus and google. But i still feel im not satisfied with the information about iboga... I want more! i want to ask some question about someone who had try a iboga experience. The trip reports here on shroomery are few and old :/


- Intothewild

Have aldready read Aubrey Marcus's experience(many times), i think that is one of the top rank when your searching about iboga experience :p



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What worries me a little is that I heard the iboga confronts you with the pain you have caused other people in the past. Even about events that you may have completely forgotten.




Correct! Thats why i like Iboga, it will show you the roots of your problem, even if you like it or not. And you will meet your higher self :eek:


But like i said, Iboga is nothing to about. There have been some fatal news recently, where iboga have been involved. So its not a miracle cure or a field with golden roses, but it can really help you if you have some inner problems :sun:


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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Boga]
    #22210703 - 09/09/15 04:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Still nobody with experience with it here on shroomery :frown:?


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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Hanz]
    #22210750 - 09/09/15 04:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Saying Iboga is the same  as LSD,  Shrooms or even Ayahuasca is like comparing an Asteroid with Jupiter cause their both in space.
Iboga is the undeniable k.i.n.g. of plant healers by a long shot and could very well lead to a cultural revolution if more people participated in it. It's pressing the reset button whether you fight it or not, there's literally no chance you're gonna make it trough a full flood dose with an intact ego, set and setting are way less imprtant than with other drugs. It washes you free from all dirt and leaves you with a feeling like you've just climbed the highest mountain with your bare hands. For months.
The alkaloids in the Iboga plant are the most remarkeable in the whole plant world, only Caapi can somehow concur IMO.


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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: hayabuser]
    #22210767 - 09/09/15 05:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I have never taken ibogaine, but I have heard it is unique from other psychedelics, I have heard the visions are eyes closed, and opening your eyes can interrupt them to a degree...I have also heard there's a heavy physical component to it.

Why was ibogaine scheduled?
It doesn't seem it was ever a drug of abuse, I don't know anybody who has taken it, I have not heard of it being sold on the streets, well maybe a few anecdotes, but it's rare...

So why schedule one?

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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #22212855 - 09/09/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I recommend mescaline if you get a chance, it's similar to ayahuasca and iboga in that it has therapeutic properties, and is generally easy to handle regardless of experience.

I recommend all psychedelics actually, I was incredibly depressed a few years back, and tbh I still am sometimes, not to mention I suffer from moderate social anxiety. By nature I'm a very pessimistic and introverted person, I can't help but focus on the negative side of things because I've always thought that was "the truth"...that the world is an icky, scary place and all who inhabit it have nothing but bad intentions. Might as well just lock myself in my room and waste away because who the fuck cares, its all pointless anyway. Who wants to be a part of this shitty world?

Psychedelics showed me I was wrong. There is beauty in the world, a lot of it. There are friendly people in the world, in fact I realized that the vast majority of people are actually quite friendly. I've found new appreciations for so many things including music, writing, education, and even socialization to an extent. I still follow a lot of my old habits, but I think I've gotten to the point where I can consider myself a functioning member of society.

Give it a shot man, with any of them that you are able to find. Also let us know how it goes, people around here really care about each other, I'd love to know how things turn out for you!


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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: hayabuser]
    #22213257 - 09/09/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Saying Iboga is the same  as LSD,  Shrooms or even Ayahuasca is like comparing an Asteroid with Jupiter cause their both in space.





Most likely true. I was just saying that if you venture out into space for the fist time, then maybe start by visiting an asteroid before impacting on Jupiter. On the other hand, it's more fun if we all do something different.


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Re: Iboga Healing, Experience? [Re: xThunder]
    #22213304 - 09/09/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I recommend mescaline if you get a chance, it's similar to ayahuasca and iboga in that it has therapeutic properties, and is generally easy to handle regardless of experience.

I recommend all psychedelics actually, I was incredibly depressed a few years back, and tbh I still am sometimes, not to mention I suffer from moderate social anxiety. By nature I'm a very pessimistic and introverted person, I can't help but focus on the negative side of things because I've always thought that was "the truth"...that the world is an icky, scary place and all who inhabit it have nothing but bad intentions. Might as well just lock myself in my room and waste away because who the fuck cares, its all pointless anyway. Who wants to be a part of this shitty world?

Psychedelics showed me I was wrong. There is beauty in the world, a lot of it. There are friendly people in the world, in fact I realized that the vast majority of people are actually quite friendly. I've found new appreciations for so many things including music, writing, education, and even socialization to an extent. I still follow a lot of my old habits, but I think I've gotten to the point where I can consider myself a functioning member of society.

Give it a shot man, with any of them that you are able to find. Also let us know how it goes, people around here really care about each other, I'd love to know how things turn out for you!




We're on the same wavelength here. Could have been my story. I'm doing reasonably well now, mood is ok although I'm still not functioning the full 100%.

On the other hand... getting my first cactus this month! :awesomenod:

And to the OP, yes, do let us know. PM me if you get back from the iboga session, just to make sure I don't miss the report.

Love, Hanz.


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