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hex_enduction
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I don't have to and I won't I enjoy a lot of popular hip hop that people constantly deride based on subject matter (rappers like Young Thug, Lil Wayne (I do HATE a lot of his shit though ), and Future). I don't listen to artists solely because they "spread good ideals" and I don't think that an artist's MUSIC is unworthy of merit on account of their lifestyle. I love Burzum's music and the dude is a fucking Nazi idiot. Likewise, I love Fredo Santana even though he's a sociopath who only raps about killing people, selling drugs, and making money. If it sounds good, I will listen to it.
That being said, a very good amount of new rappers have subject matter that deviates from these kinds of themes. I could share some if you were curious but I have a feeling you're not interested.
@Twighead, Kanye has made much better beats than the one you shared (which is not even a hip hop beat, though it's not bad by any means). Here's a couple examples:
Of course I'm not gonna convince you but I gotta back up what I say with some proof, right?
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every type of music can be ridicule when the entire culture is demonized and rediculized .
IMO music is good if my brain likes it and thats pretty much the only criteria for me. I basicly like every style of music. the only thing that is important is that my brain cells are dancing.
Vibes and energy and uniqueness is a plus, lyrics some times*,(*english isnt my first language kinda hard to understand most of the time,it can be a plus some time but overall I love music period)
Really diggin young thug recently even tho I been a punk and metal head most of my life
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Kanye West is so full of shit and anyone who would literally vote for him over anyone is a downgrade to society.
He would divide this nation beyond belief.
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Re: Kanye for president in 2020! [Re: Herbologist]
#22169343 - 08/31/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fuck Kanye. Vote Vermin Supreme!
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hex_enduction
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Re: Kanye for president in 2020! [Re: ballsalsa]
#22169359 - 08/31/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: Fuck Kanye. Vote Vermin Supreme!
The only candidate I'd ever vote for. If he's elected, he will not serve.
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So your saying Trump > Kanye? 
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Jean-guy Masta said: every type of music can be ridicule when the entire culture is demonized and rediculized .
That is true as music like all art is subjective. Art is about exploration though and many modern artists are lacking in originality and soul.
All the best music comes from the soul IMO and a lot of modern music is all about the ego.
I love some feelgood music as much as the next guy and have listened to plenty but my favorite music is the stuff that really makes me think. Music where people are pushing boundaries with their raw creativity and talent. Lyrics don't even matter to me to an extent though I love some nice deep poetic lyrics too. I want deep vivid soundscapes that will inspire me.
So much modern music just sounds like repetitive crap to me becouse it is lacking in much of the substance I seek in music
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Herbologist
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Trump would 100% be better than Kanye.
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Re: Kanye for president in 2020! [Re: Herbologist] 1
#22169431 - 08/31/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: Trump would 100% be better than Kanye.
Ronald McDonald would be 100% better than Kanye
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If you don't hold all music to the same standard, you'll find yourself enjoying things you never would have realized is worthwhile.
Many modern artists are pretty lacking in soul, sure, most of the shit you hear on the radio is only made to sell records, not to really connect with people, and a lot of it is bad for that reason. But there's plenty of artists out there in 2015 who put so much soul into their music, many of them rappers/producers.
This is just one man's opinion and I don't expect to convince you but I know good music when I hear it and I listen to rap for a reason.
Anyway I'm sorry for derailing this thread, if you wanna continue this in PM sure but I don't think either of us are going to convince each other anything
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Re: Kanye for president in 2020! [Re: Oldgregg] 1
#22169459 - 08/31/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oldgregg said: obviously y'all aren't going to change your minds cause you have this preconceived notion of Kanye...but if you want to at least try to understand where people are coming from when they say Kanye is a good hiphop artist read this at least... https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/1hl2dh/guide_to_kanye_west/
I get if you're not into hiphop then you might think he's a joke but if you are into it at all you have to give the dude props
Off the top of my head, when it comes to hiphop/rap/whatever it's called now, I'd gladly listen to:
Canibus KRS-One Method Man Mos Def Alias Clay Disl automatic.
Hell even Old Dirty Bastard who is a joke but I'd rather listen to these guys than than whack joke that is Kayne "gay fish i dun read books" West.
Also his music is shit.
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Re: Kanye for president in 2020! [Re: Herbologist]
#22169533 - 08/31/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: Trump would 100% be better than Kanye.
Trump scares me.... I saw a video of him saying "what is so bad about China anyways" recently 
I feel like he will sellout this country even more than it already is.
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I hate all the blind hip-hop hate on the Shroomery, it makes me very sad It's one thing not to enjoy the music but to trash an entire culture just because you don't like the attitudes of some of its proponents is just ignorance.
I don't like hip-hop. I try not to trash that culture but to me, that culture is trash...
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Do you not realize how disrespectful that is, or do you just not care?
hiphophrt

I did misspeak there, Rap is trash, hip-hop just sux, and Kanye's trash really sucks...
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Me unshroomy?  U even gro, brah?
Hey, when you're my age, you can tell your kids generation that their music(culture) is trash, just like my parents generation told me about my music/culture. (My parents didn't tell me that. They were a little cool about culture.)
...and believe me, I listen to more than Rock&Roll...
Now stay off my lawn...
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Re: Kanye for president in 2020! [Re: vinsue]
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Holy shit. I finally know what Vinsue looks like
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Re: Kanye for president in 2020! [Re: Shroomslip]
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Well put Vinsue, except I am a youngin and I think a ton of modern music is trash too so its not just you shroomy elders.
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I feel like Kanye is so self-absorbed and egomanical, that he doesn't realize half of the words that form from his vocal chords. - I guess most politicians are that way.
He would be detrimental to our Nation and World as a whole, even more so than the usual assortment of Rebloodicans and Democrips...
What's worse is that as others have stated, he would command a huge voter following from the young voter collective.
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I honestly doubt the younger people would vote for kanye. Most of the young people who vote aren't idiots.
And IME, most young people who are really, really into kanye west don't give a shit about voting.
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Re: Kanye for president in 2020! [Re: Shroomslip]
#22172304 - 09/01/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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the dude has schizophrenia or something
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vinsue said: I did misspeak there, Rap is trash, hip-hop just sux,
for once imma have to disagree with u on that one, my friend
alot of hiphop culture is trash, but also there's some really good shit out there that aint all about bitches and hoes. the shit stays underground doe and never makes it to mainstream. all in all tho hiphop has infinite potential in the way one could express themselves and pretty much anyone can do it, that's why it it is so universal, and that is why u see alot of dumbmies rapping about bitches n hoes. but i mean it aint all bad.
it is just another way to say hello.
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Re: Kanye for president in 2020! [Re: zZZz]
#22172442 - 09/01/15 03:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If anyone thinks Shame on a Nigga is a bad song, Then I musically don't know where you are coming from. I consider early Wu-Tang on par with some of the best folk music, which is what rap is: Modern Folk Music. However like most genres, most rap music I find shitty or boring.
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