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Re: Kanye for president in 2020! [Re: MichAnon.ael]
#22167909 - 08/31/15 07:12 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oldgregg said: hate on kanye all ya want but dude is a musical genius.
So is Lil Jon. WHAAAT?! YEEEAAAAAH!
Yeah he's serious. These two aren't even comparable. Lil John is a joke made popular by Dave Chappelle.
Listen to beautiful dark twisted fantasy.. dude can write and produce. Best since Jimmy Page probably(okay, not that good but that's what we're takin about)
Yeezy season up in this..
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Re: Kanye for president in 2020! [Re: Oldgregg]
#22167939 - 08/31/15 07:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not into it, but I do listen to some of it. Lately it's mostly just been NF. I wouldn't say he's a lyrical genius, but he's leaps and bounds ahead of Kanye as a whole. I'll admit I have a preconceived notion of him, but I honestly did go look up a lot of his lyrics after you said that shit. I stand by what I said.
No, you're not gonna change my mind. There's really nothing that can. His level of writing really is on par with my poetry when I was an angsty, depressed teen. There's nothing brilliant or extraordinary about how he strings together the words he uses. It literally reads as if he picked two ending words and wrote sentences around those two words just to rhyme. There's no natural flow, it's just all so forced.
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Re: Kanye for president in 2020! [Re: Shroomslip]
#22167943 - 08/31/15 07:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Kanye for president in 2020! [Re: Oldgregg]
#22167947 - 08/31/15 07:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like Kanye's music too, though not as much as I used to. I only think he's a moderately decent lyricist, but he is definitely an extremely talented artist. As an aspiring producer myself I take a lot of influence from his production work which was fucking revolutionary. He defined the new sound of rap in the late '00s. You might be able to write better lyrics than him, but I can guarantee that no one on these forums could make a better beat than Kanye 
He'd be just as garbage a president as any other, but I'd vote for him if I somehow ended up at the polls.
I hate all the blind hip-hop hate on the Shroomery, it makes me very sad It's one thing not to enjoy the music but to trash an entire culture just because you don't like the attitudes of some of its proponents is just ignorance.
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Re: Kanye for president in 2020! [Re: Oldgregg]
#22167950 - 08/31/15 07:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yea lyrical genius may have been a bit of a stretch...but he's definitely a talented artist and producer
most of his best lines were written for him, but the fact that he's in the position for talented lyricists to write for him is a testament to his talent
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Re: Kanye for president in 2020! [Re: Oldgregg]
#22167963 - 08/31/15 07:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Some people honestly talk about him like he's on Nas' level and shit He's definitely only mediocre at best in my book but he has his moments.
This song in particular has some really dope lines, I feel like this is one of the few songs where he put a lot of effort into sounding like a dope lyricist
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Re: Kanye for president in 2020! [Re: MichAnon.ael]
#22168261 - 08/31/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oldgregg said: hate on kanye all ya want but dude is a musical genius.
So is Lil Jon. WHAAAT?! YEEEAAAAAH!
Yeah he's serious. These two aren't even comparable. Lil John is a joke made popular by Dave Chappelle.
Listen to beautiful dark twisted fantasy.. dude can write and produce. Best since Jimmy Page probably(okay, not that good but that's what we're takin about)
Yeezy season up in this..
Lol, worst comparison ever. And shows your lack of knowledge on the music industry. Everyone knows zep stole a shit ton of music, but you are using page as an example of how good kaynes writing is?
You want to hear good lyrics/peotry, go listen to some pac. No one will argue with that statement.
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I hate all the blind hip-hop hate on the Shroomery, it makes me very sad It's one thing not to enjoy the music but to trash an entire culture just because you don't like the attitudes of some of its proponents is just ignorance.
I don't like hip-hop. I try not to trash that culture but to me, that culture is trash...
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Re: Kanye for president in 2020! [Re: vinsue]
#22168545 - 08/31/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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that dude is insane. he actually believes hes jesus or something i think
he also seemed pretty wasted lol, walked off the stage without his award just so he could hi-five his homeboys
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Re: Kanye for president in 2020! [Re: vinsue]
#22168584 - 08/31/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hate all the blind hip-hop hate on the Shroomery, it makes me very sad It's one thing not to enjoy the music but to trash an entire culture just because you don't like the attitudes of some of its proponents is just ignorance.
I don't like hip-hop. I try not to trash that culture but to me, that culture is trash...
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Do you not realize how disrespectful that is, or do you just not care?
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Re: Kanye for president in 2020! [Re: Patlal]
#22168630 - 08/31/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dear Kanye,
I saw your speech last night.
Please go away. Thank you,
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A lot of rap/ hip hop comes across as really disrespectful so why should it matter 
I have respect for some rappers and producer's but Kanye is most definitely not one of them. Even the ones I do respect I almost never listen to because I find the whole genres very over hyped and mediocre 99% of the time.
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It only comes off that way because you don't take the time to understand what's really going on 
Bums me out when a self-described "music lover" decides to write off an entire genre (possibly my favorite one at that) as "over hyped and mediocre". But it's not my loss.
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hex_enduction said: I like Kanye's music too, though not as much as I used to. I only think he's a moderately decent lyricist, but he is definitely an extremely talented artist. As an aspiring producer myself I take a lot of influence from his production work which was fucking revolutionary. He defined the new sound of rap in the late '00s. You might be able to write better lyrics than him, but I can guarantee that no one on these forums could make a better beat than Kanye 
He'd be just as garbage a president as any other, but I'd vote for him if I somehow ended up at the polls.
I hate all the blind hip-hop hate on the Shroomery, it makes me very sad It's one thing not to enjoy the music but to trash an entire culture just because you don't like the attitudes of some of its proponents is just ignorance.
Pls, I know multiple people on this forum that can make vastly better music/beats. And he's not even a hip-hop artist  So fuck him and all he represents
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Where did I write it off? 
If I didn't take the time to understand it why would I say I respect certain rappers and producers...
Please enlighten us then, what is "really going on"
Most of the rap I hear now adays is complete crap, as bad or worse then most popular electronic "music" if you can call it that.
As a genre I find it pretty weak, sure there are talented producers and rappers spreading positive messages and ideals. Maybe like 2-5%? If that.
For it to be "my loss" I would have to have never gotten into it. I own several tribe called quest vinyls, and an MF Doom vinyl plus a few others.
Even though I respect said artists I never listen to them anymore, when I was younger sure but now there is so so much better stuff I would rather get into.
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Re: Kanye for president in 2020! [Re: twighead]
#22169054 - 08/31/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Show me then buddy. I'd love to hear em.
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musiclover420 said: because I find the whole genres very over hyped and mediocre 99% of the time.
Here is where you wrote it off. You don't have to listen to it if you don't want to, but as someone who finds more than 1% of hip hop worthwhile music I took offense.
Doom and ATCQ are good but far from being among the only worthwhile artists in the entire genre.
I'm not gonna argue with you because we obviously have different tastes, but I find it disrespectful when people shit on entire genres just because they don't like what they perceive to be representative of the genre. Unshroomy, even.
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You have to admit most of the "popular" rap now adays is total crap.
99% was clearly me exaggerating but the point remains the same. So much rap just comes across as stupid and perpetuates some shitty ideals imo.
I admitted there are solid artists spreading good ideals too but how many rap songs are there about fucking sluts, making money, and abusing drugs?
I didn't say those are the only two worthwhile hip hop artists those are just two I will always have some respect for, there are others I respect too.
I could post some videos here as examples but I won't becouse it would be painful to my ears to find them
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hex_enduction said: Show me then buddy. I'd love to hear em.
Behold!
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