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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: cez]
    #22179686 - 09/02/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah man, you didn't know that?

You have to wake up in order to survive. How are you going to do all of the things you need to do in order to live if you are not awake to do them?

I got you Thanatos :thumbup:


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22180162 - 09/02/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The logic and excuses for your shitty outlook on life are pathetic.  I hope you quit taking yourself so seriously because if you stick with your current mindset you will forever be miserable.

Some people would love to be in your situation but you are too pompous to have any gratitude for what you have and you have more than pain and all the sob story bullshit you've been spouting throughout this thread.


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: cez]
    #22180663 - 09/02/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanatos.

Life is pointless.
You live, you think, you strive for anything, and then it's taken away and you die.

Everyone around you thinks the same thing as you, just in a different way. You are not creative, you are not special. You are you. There are no heroes, only stories about heroes. Everyone and everything is flawed. You are no exception. Nobody is a stereotype, they are multiple stereotypes. You are not the label you put on yourself or others put on you. You are a collection of labels. The human mind makes you think there is no in between. There is either right or wrong, but I will tell you. There is so much more in between. In fact the inbetween is where its all at. Nothing is at the end of the spectrum, except thoughts and ideas. You will never be fully liberal, or fully conservative.. because they are just ideas and labels that we put on things. Perfection that is out of reach.

Everyone around you is just as afraid of the terrible, horrible, pointless world as you are. But they make the best of it. It is not a novel idea to feel apathetic about this shitty place we live. But that is the magic.. everyone is here together.. living this shitty existence.. and you aren't helping a single person (including yourself) have any relief. If every person tried to ease the pain (of this craphole we all live in) of one other person.. then everyone would be in a little bit better of a place.




Besides, where else would you rather be?


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Lucent] * 1
    #22180687 - 09/02/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

A lot of nihlists up in here but if your an existentialist like me yes life is pointless until you create meaning in it.  After all it is your life, you're free to do with it as you please.  I'd rather live out of curiosity, pleasure, testing myself and the genuine mystery of the big picture then not live at all:shrug:


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22181079 - 09/02/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You sound quite attached to your way of thought and that's part of your problem imo.  Life isn't gloomy and pain isn't bad.  Talking about your psychological affliction is a suave way of playing the victim.  Sooner or later you'll die and this will all be over.  Quit being a pessimist and get some sun. :cool:



If I am it's because of the way my life has gone. There I no reason for me to believe life gets better of that something far worse isn't lurking beyond. My life has been a downward spiral since the first affliction.




Congratulations Thanatos10 you are enlightened. You have found the truth.


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #22181230 - 09/02/15 11:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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A lot of nihlists up in here but if your an existentialist like me yes life is pointless until you create meaning in it.  After all it is your life, you're free to do with it as you please.  I'd rather live out of curiosity, pleasure, testing myself and the genuine mystery of the big picture then not live at all:shrug:




How do you create meaning?


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22182352 - 09/03/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You said the only thing that helps you are bugs. That is a good hobby to have. Go to school for Entomology like I said in your other thread. Maybe you were meant to discover some kind of crazy species of bug that holds the cure to all illnesses.

What is meaning to you? What is important? What do you actually care about?

Those are some questions I would ask myself.

And then maybe when you die, your discoveries will live on and aid people in their own daily life struggles.

I don't know, I believe in reincarnation personally.


Edited by cosmicg (09/03/15 10:17 AM)


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22182519 - 09/03/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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A lot of nihlists up in here but if your an existentialist like me yes life is pointless until you create meaning in it.  After all it is your life, you're free to do with it as you please.  I'd rather live out of curiosity, pleasure, testing myself and the genuine mystery of the big picture then not live at all:shrug:




How do you create meaning?



My family means something to me, I choose to give it meaning.  I have created meaning.  You can do the same thing with friends, ideas, hobbies and interests.  This meaning isn't meta-meaning but I am not everyone, i'm just me.  I can choose to give meaning to anything I want.


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: cosmicg]
    #22185324 - 09/03/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You said the only thing that helps you are bugs. That is a good hobby to have. Go to school for Entomology like I said in your other thread. Maybe you were meant to discover some kind of crazy species of bug that holds the cure to all illnesses.

What is meaning to you? What is important? What do you actually care about?

Those are some questions I would ask myself.

And then maybe when you die, your discoveries will live on and aid people in their own daily life struggles.

I don't know, I believe in reincarnation personally.




It's going to be hard to reclaim all of that since nihilism pretty much did a number on me in those areas.


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22185871 - 09/03/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Another lame excuse as to why you can't do something.


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: cez]
    #22185979 - 09/04/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Another lame excuse as to why you can't do something.




I said it would be hard, not that I couldn't do it.


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22187112 - 09/04/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think you currently have no interest in doing anything that's going to make your life-situation better.  You use Nihilism as an excuse to not follow your interests. :rolleyes:

What could be hard about doing what you like?


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: cez]
    #22187127 - 09/04/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If you're not enjoying life it's your fault or it's your brain chemistry's fault. 'Nuff said. Life is amazing.


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: cez]
    #22189861 - 09/04/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I think you currently have no interest in doing anything that's going to make your life-situation better.  You use Nihilism as an excuse to not follow your interests. :rolleyes:

What could be hard about doing what you like?




It's not really an excuse, it's just something that makes my interests seems pointless to perform. I'm not hiding behind it, why would I? I want to get over it. That statement doesn't even make sense.

It's hard to do it because the joy I used to feel has been replaced by a sense that there is no point to what I'm doing and that it is meaningless. It makes it hard to really enjoy those things the way I did before.


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22189906 - 09/04/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Move out of your parent's place and I bet you will find meaning in everything.  You're meaningless perspective of everything is a product of comfort and a lack of gratitude I imagine.


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: cez]
    #22189956 - 09/04/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Move out of your parent's place and I bet you will find meaning in everything.  You're meaningless perspective of everything is a product of comfort and a lack of gratitude I imagine.




Actually it's because of my brush with nihilism. I was never like this prior to a month ago.

As for being grateful for things, that doesn't help out much (my therapist already suggested that to me, ironically it makes things worse).


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Why My Tits Hurt [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22191532 - 09/05/15 06:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Move out of your parent's place and I bet you will find meaning in everything.  You're meaningless perspective of everything is a product of comfort and a lack of gratitude I imagine.




Actually it's because of my brush with nihilism. I was never like this prior to a month ago.

As for being grateful for things, that doesn't help out much (my therapist already suggested that to me, ironically it makes things worse).




Try not paying your therapist, and see how grateful they become.

Personally, the only person I would ever consider paying for personal advice would be a hooker.  Then, I know they are lying but at least I get fucked out of my money.


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Re: Why My Tits Hurt [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #22191604 - 09/05/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Can't believe nonobody's brought up hookers until now.


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis. [Re: Hobozen]
    #22191629 - 09/05/15 07:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Replying just to follow for now. Will comment later.


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    #22191931 - 09/05/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think you should reread what you have on nihilism and take it for what it is. All encompassing. It applies to everything not just the things you mark as "good" in life. This is very one sided.

Why do you not allow nihilism to take away meaning from all the "bad" things you have experienced in life?

When you say things alluding to the idea that life has dealt you shit, you did your best and more shit came from it..... are you sure? According to your nihilistic approach it should be more of "I did some things to kill time and they didn't matter, the result was more thing that didn't matter"

well isn't that neutral?

Nihilism personally feels like a sort of freedom because I have no need or strive to make a huge impact on the world, I know I can't fuck it up anymore than I can better it. This gives me the feeling of freedom to do what I want within my own personal rules (don't hurt living things, deal with consequences of your actions) which I don't even adhere to strictly (I hunt).

I have been severely depressed at times in my life and have seriously attempted suicide before and that plan got fucked up by someone finding me while I lay on the floor bleeding out and appreciating the pain because it was a very REAL feeling when everything else felt very unreal.

I realized years later that I was simply taking all of this (my life, your life, this world, this existence) way too seriously. There probably is no point for us in a general sense. If there is I've never discovered it. I have found that I can give myself purpose though, by simply choosing to. Why? Well why not? Nothing better to do with my time here.

You say you require proof to believe in things, this is a tricky one. Read up on the philosophy of logic and you can then begin to ask yourself if you really require proof of things to believe them, or just a nice logical concrete push in the direction of an answer, if one even exists. Does there even have to be an answer?

You can end up in a very strange place in life if you adhere to this culture (I'm guessing your American or at least in an American-like culture) and it's beliefs but are a person wanting answers. Our culture and a large portion of society as we see it seems quite absurd to, to me at least. One of the reasons I choose to live on the edge of thousands of miles of forest land and much prefer to run to the hills rather than to town.

I truly feel empathy for your feelings of disconnection. Are those feelings necessary? Are they even logical? You say you've spent time observing people and their ways. Do you want to belong to all of that?
I don't want to, and I do submit to it when I must, but I also keep to myself and think how I think and for the most part don't interact with 90% of the people I see on a daily basis on any kind of intellectual level because I simply don't care what they think or have to say. I appreciate their view and input but I don't give it much personal credit or influence in my life because I choose not to.


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