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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #22177795 - 09/02/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I find it mildly ironic that you haven't even tried shrooms before -- and you're here, bugging us.




Yes.


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #22177995 - 09/02/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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and you're here, bugging us. 

In the end, you're just young and ridiculously inexperienced.  Take yourself with a grain of salt, please.



I agree with the gist of what you said in this post but I wouldn't use the word "bugging."  I think Thanatos needs an outlet of expression and this forum is a good community/feedback outlet for the kinda stuff op is confused about.

Thanatos should trip and quit making life so heavy but at the end of the day it's part of his journey and we shouldn't act is if he's a nuisance, though his argument is ridiculous :smirk:


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: cez]
    #22178026 - 09/02/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Did you see what Markos said in the 'Soul' thread in S&M?

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But if you don't have a sense of being in the ordinary sense, then the recommendations here to take a psychedelic trip is premature. You are not ready to have your identity disassembled because you have not yet assumed a stable sense of identity. One needs a strong and resilient ego in order to transcend that ego. An experience of ego-death to an unstable ego can result in a major psychiatric crisis. In such a case, the immolated Phoenix will not rise from its own ashes. If you can't listen, you can't learn. Become Daedalus, not Icarus.



It resonates man. As much as Thanatos needs a total paradigm shift, I was dubious myself about recommending he trip. Kinda a last ditch attempt type response. Cause I do have to agree with DQ, he is getting just a touch annoying. His communication all seems so damn one-way.

I'm with ya though cez, I like to think we're a good community for someone in the midst of an existential crisis. However (as has been proven in Thanatos time here) it just doesn't work unless the OP is willing to reflect upon, consider, and possibly take onboard some of the information the community provides.


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #22178055 - 09/02/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You mentioned that you have never tried psychedelics.  I would suggest you do -- take some shrooms or something.  Have an experience that might send you in a new and fruitful direction.  I find it mildly ironic that you haven't even tried shrooms before -- and you're here, bugging us.  Try it out.  It will assuredly give you something to think about.

In the end, you're just young and ridiculously inexperienced.  Take yourself with a grain of salt, please.




I doubt a hallucination will have any effect on me. It's just a brief alteration of the senses, which people appear to give meaning to. I have been through more than most to know that life doesn't get better, all you can hope for is to endure the next maelstrom it sends at you.

Every time I feel things turning around for me, something comes along to shatter my hope. I have learned to stop hoping for better days because they are followed by worse. The latest crippling stint, nihilism and cancer.

So no, believing things will get better doesn't make it so. Life doesn't work that way. You don't attract things to you they just happen. It's just been pain after pain. Every time I try to think positive life slaps me upside the head with something worse.

I didn't create this, this is just how things are.


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22178078 - 09/02/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanatos doesn't need to get the message instantly athough we tend to assume he/she should but that clearly doesn't seem like his/her agenda anyways.  Op to me is merely looking for something to hear their struggle.

I think sometimes we post not looking for answers, but more so acknowledgement that we exist:shrug:


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: cez]
    #22178099 - 09/02/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I think sometimes we post not looking for answers, but more so acknowledgement that we exist:shrug:



Yeah, I hear that. I guess I need to shift a little out of my own perspective to see that, thanks for saying so man.


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22178105 - 09/02/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You mentioned that you have never tried psychedelics.  I would suggest you do -- take some shrooms or something.  Have an experience that might send you in a new and fruitful direction.  I find it mildly ironic that you haven't even tried shrooms before -- and you're here, bugging us.  Try it out.  It will assuredly give you something to think about.

In the end, you're just young and ridiculously inexperienced.  Take yourself with a grain of salt, please.




I doubt a hallucination will have any effect on me. It's just a brief alteration of the senses, which people appear to give meaning to. I have been through more than most to know that life doesn't get better, all you can hope for is to endure the next maelstrom it sends at you.

Every time I feel things turning around for me, something comes along to shatter my hope. I have learned to stop hoping for better days because they are followed by worse. The latest crippling stint, nihilism and cancer.

So no, believing things will get better doesn't make it so. Life doesn't work that way. You don't attract things to you they just happen. It's just been pain after pain. Every time I try to think positive life slaps me upside the head with something worse.

I didn't create this, this is just how things are.




You sound so close-minded it's trollish.  Belief doesn't make things better, action does.  Quit feeling sorry for yourself and fucking get on with your life.  Get a hobby and enjoy your time.  Or don't and keep being a victim of your past.


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22178107 - 09/02/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think you guys are getting the message here.


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22178111 - 09/02/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think you have a message that I am willing to accept.  You're acting like a baby and misery loves company...Do you want us to agree that life sucks and there's no point for existence?


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: cez]
    #22178134 - 09/02/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Because there isn't. Why would I be put through so much mental pain having to questions myself so much that there isn't anything left after that. I fail to see how that makes me childish. People have told me one thing but life tells me another.


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: cez]
    #22178154 - 09/02/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanatos.

Everything that you see, the feelings that you feel, the thoughts that you may or may not have...

They are nothing but thoughts. Take them with a grain of salt as they only mean something if you choose for them to mean something. You create your own world based on the way you perceive what is around you. What one person sees as being bad, you may see as being good. Everything in life is subjective.

You have actually received a lot of great answers in this thread. You will know you have the answers, or you may never even find them.

I think the most important thing to remember above all else is only you can control your outlook on life. You create what is in front of you.

The inner-self is who we truly are. As has been said, people naturally put up fronts to protect themselves from being hurt or vulnerable to feelings of discomfort.

Trust me when I say that I know what you are going through. Maybe not exactly, because as I said we all experience the world in our own unique ways.

Don't dwell on it. Stop thinking so much. Just be.


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22178200 - 09/02/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanatos, a book that I think might be beneficial for you to read is "Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl :smile:


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22178208 - 09/02/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Because there isn't. Why would I be put through so much mental pain having to questions myself so much that there isn't anything left after that. I fail to see how that makes me childish. People have told me one thing but life tells me another.




I agree it seems like there is no point, but I keep waking up to another day so I feel justified in that being enough of a point for my existence-I keep happening for an unknowable reason.  Why can't that be enough of a point for you?  Why do you need a point for your existence?

I think you should read some philosophy, preferably someone like Eckhart Tolle, Alan Watts or Ram Dass for they are wizards with their rhetoric :thumbup:


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22178546 - 09/02/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

absorb yourself in something you truly enjoy and derive satisfaction from. you'll forget about your problems and perhaps create something "meaningful" in the process.

i'm working on a fictional book right now and it's very therapeutic. direct yourself towards something you enjoy and you won't have so much time to lament everything. or you can channel that misery into whatever it is you plan on working on, especially if it's art.

i think you just need to find something that makes you excited to wake up each morning. figure it out, and go for it.
this is prolly my last bit of advice :cool:


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22178555 - 09/02/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't think you guys are getting the message here.




Orgone, is that you?  :awesketch:


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: resonant111]
    #22178732 - 09/02/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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absorb yourself in something you truly enjoy and derive satisfaction from. you'll forget about your problems and perhaps create something "meaningful" in the process.

i'm working on a fictional book right now and it's very therapeutic. direct yourself towards something you enjoy and you won't have so much time to lament everything. or you can channel that misery into whatever it is you plan on working on, especially if it's art.

i think you just need to find something that makes you excited to wake up each morning. figure it out, and go for it.
this is prolly my last bit of advice :cool:




That's kind of hard since I crave sleep and hate waking up each day.


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
    #22178741 - 09/02/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Thanatos10 said:
That's kind of hard since I crave sleep and hate waking up each day.



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I agree it seems like there is no point, but I keep waking up to another day so I feel justified in that being enough of a point for my existence-I keep happening for an unknowable reason.




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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22178912 - 09/02/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Thanatos10 said:
That's kind of hard since I crave sleep and hate waking up each day.



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cez said:
I agree it seems like there is no point, but I keep waking up to another day so I feel justified in that being enough of a point for my existence-I keep happening for an unknowable reason.







That could just as easily be survival instinct. That's not a reason to keep going one though.


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #22179566 - 09/02/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Waking from sleep is a survival instinct?


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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: cez]
    #22179680 - 09/02/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Pretty much. It's not a reason to keep existing nor a purpose to. I envy people who die in their sleep


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