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cez

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cez said: It's not your life. You don't own life. To think it can't get better is to deny the fundamental reality that all things are transient.
Yeah, I already tried that one. Thanatos10, I think you must be the most resistant to logic human I have ever met. Congratulations man; I'm pretty blown away.
Would you just please, please, please do me one favour? Either seek therapeutic help or head on over to the 'Getting started' section of this forum and start learning about how to grow living things. You need a hobby, and something that's gonna make you see the light for the trees man. It's like you have an impenetrable castle wall of thoughts ready to fend off any possible intruder to your own belief system.
You, my friend, need a fucking paradigm shift.

All this time feeling sorry for yourself can be spent on something that you can grow. A hobby will do you wonders
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Thanatos is in a creative rut 
Can't blame the guy, though.
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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Hobozen]
#22175549 - 09/01/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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blankk said: Can't blame the guy, though.
I agree, I think most of us have been there at some point. I certainly have. And whilst I see no blame in it (great ills befall us all), I see it as individual responsibility to learn to manage it. And that means lowering your defenses a little, for a start.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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cez said: It's not your life. You don't own life. To think it can't get better is to deny the fundamental reality that all things are transient.
Yeah, I already tried that one. Thanatos10, I think you must be the most resistant to logic human I have ever met. Congratulations man; I'm pretty blown away.
Would you just please, please, please do me one favour? Either seek therapeutic help or head on over to the 'Getting started' section of this forum and start learning about how to grow living things. You need a hobby, and something that's gonna make you see the light for the trees man. It's like you have an impenetrable castle wall of thoughts ready to fend off any possible intruder to your own belief system.
You, my friend, need a fucking paradigm shift.
If every time something good happens in my life something worse comes along that puts me down even further it's logical to believe that life is just things going from bad to worse. There isn't anything illogical about it. It's based entirely on experience. My entire life has been that way since middle school. A hobby isn't going to make that go away. I was into trading cards the whole time through and that didn't help much at all.
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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Hobozen]
#22175769 - 09/01/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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blankk said: Thanatos is in a creative rut 
Can't blame the guy, though.
How on earth did you possibly come to that conclusion and what does it have to do with anything? And what do you mean lowering my defenses?
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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
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It would take creativity to at least attempt to come to an understanding with us. You're fighting wind.
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Re: Mandibular Symphysis. [Re: Thanatos10]
#22176207 - 09/01/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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it sounds like you're going through a "dark night of the soul." that phase of complete and utter despair, hopelessness and separation. many of us have been there. people who are majorly depressed are actually really really close to genuine awareness--at least they KNOW the world is full of pain and disappointment. that's the first step to developing true compassion for others -- knowing the reality of pain.
i read in some other thread that you are majoring in psychology -- perhaps this is a learning experience for you? perhaps you are subconsciously putting yourself through this pain SO THAT you can better understand the pain of others?
going through this experience could make you an outstanding psychologist or counselor in the end. maybe this traumatic phase is part of your life's plan?
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Good or bad things will change
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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Hobozen]
#22176254 - 09/01/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Life's plan? There is no such thing.
I have changed my major from psychology because I simply cannot deal with the concepts that it talks about. As for dark night, there is no light at the end. There is no salvation for the damned, rest in peace in eternal darkness. How do you even get out of such a thing? That author you talked about was nothing but a pit of despair from what I've read, so what about that dark night?
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blankk said: It would take creativity to at least attempt to come to an understanding with us. You're fighting wind.
There is no wind. It is the doldrums. The reason I discount it is because I have been through this before several times and done what people have suggested but it has never helped at all. All I could do was white knuckle the worst parts and hope for sleep, only to dread the waking world the next day.
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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
#22176316 - 09/01/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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as for feeling life is "pointless" -- you have to create your OWN sense of significance. yea we all make it up. so what? life is a blank canvas and you paint what you want on it -- you don't just leave it blank and lament that it's "just a canvas." LIFE IS OBJECTIVELY POINTLESS SO THAT YOU CAN CREATE YOUR OWN SIGNIFICANCE. that's the beauty of it dude.
cioran called it "magnificent futility." paradoxically pointless yet at the same time unfathomably awe-inspiring, beautiful and limitless. that's life.
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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
#22176419 - 09/01/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You said in your OP that you're being cold and objective, but then you go on to say, "Spirituality just seems like nonsense for people to feel better about their place in a sea of darkness."
What sea of darkness? Show us this sea of darkness. Because not everyone sees it. This is you projecting your negative emotions onto existence. That's all I'm saying man. I'm not trying to help you or suggest things to you, I'm just saying that you're full of shit, in that you can't separate your emotions from the bigger picture.
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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
#22176460 - 09/01/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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As for dark night, there is no light at the end. There is no salvation for the damned, rest in peace in eternal darkness.
You should start a metal band.
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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: DisoRDeR]
#22176467 - 09/01/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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And call it Mandibular Symphysis.
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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Kurt]
#22176575 - 09/01/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The mandibular symphysis divides below and encloses a triangular eminence, the mental protuberance, the base of which is depressed in the center but raised on either side to form the mental tubercle.
Let me chew on that for a while...
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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Hobozen]
#22176600 - 09/02/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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blankk said: You said in your OP that you're being cold and objective, but then you go on to say, "Spirituality just seems like nonsense for people to feel better about their place in a sea of darkness."
What sea of darkness? Show us this sea of darkness. Because not everyone sees it. This is you projecting your negative emotions onto existence. That's all I'm saying man. I'm not trying to help you or suggest things to you, I'm just saying that you're full of shit, in that you can't separate your emotions from the bigger picture.
The bigger picture is that we are meaningless compared to the sea of darkness that surrounds us, in this case the universe. Look around beyond the planet and you will see it. The earth could explode we would be no different than the dust floating around the asteroid belt. We are insignificant in the larger scheme of things, the "big picture" as you put it.
As for creating your own meaning, what's the point? Where is the beauty in deluding yourself?
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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
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ahh, by darkness i thought you meant suffering.
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As for creating your own meaning, what's the point? Where is the beauty in deluding yourself?
are you not creating your own meaning right now, based on the negativity that you experience? how is that any more real than the person who creates his meaning based on positive experiences?
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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
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"Nature is playful and terrible. Some see the playful side and dally with it and let it sparkle. Others see the horror and cover their heads and are more dead than alive. The way does not lead between both, but embraces both. It is both cheerful play and cold horror."
-C.G. Jung
Just thought I would leave this here for you Thanatos
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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Hobozen]
#22177451 - 09/02/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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blankk said: ahh, by darkness i thought you meant suffering.
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As for creating your own meaning, what's the point? Where is the beauty in deluding yourself?
are you not creating your own meaning right now, based on the negativity that you experience? how is that any more real than the person who creates his meaning based on positive experiences?
I'm not creating any meaning, I'm trying to deal with this void inside.
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#22177695 - 09/02/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes you are creating meaning. The meaning of your life as I see it according to your posts is pain and sadness and hopelessness because nothing can ever go right for you and you are just a poor, innocent victim of your circumstances. 
Keep believing all that's out there is what you previously experienced and keep getting more of the same. Or, detach from the life-story you've created and live.
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Re: Mandibular Symphysis [Re: Thanatos10]
#22177716 - 09/02/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You mentioned that you have never tried psychedelics. I would suggest you do -- take some shrooms or something. Have an experience that might send you in a new and fruitful direction. I find it mildly ironic that you haven't even tried shrooms before -- and you're here, bugging us. Try it out. It will assuredly give you something to think about.
In the end, you're just young and ridiculously inexperienced. Take yourself with a grain of salt, please.
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