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JohnDoeKENTUCKY
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Using lemon juice to get a hefty second flush???
#22163675 - 08/30/15 07:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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My first grow a month ago I didn't flush my 5 trays or coir verm rye after the first harvest instead I crushed them up in a 5 gallon bucket and added a quart of pure lemon juice (trying to do an extraction). I squeezed out as much of the lemon juice as I could, about a pint, and then I just dumped the substrate in a pig pile under a tree.
Without doing anything to the pile of substrate for a week, I happened to see it and there were huge fruits ALL over it. I thought for sure the lemon juice would kill the myc but sure enough I think it actually made it grow better. I ended up getting 74 grams dry from this 5 gal bucket sized mound of myc. I just wanted to bring this to the publics attention because you never know maybe I discovered something nobody else hasn't yet, probably not tho.
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Re: Using lemon juice to get a hefty second flush??? [Re: JohnDoeKENTUCKY]
#22163689 - 08/30/15 08:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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did it rain this week?
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tetherface
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Re: Using lemon juice to get a hefty second flush??? [Re: JohnDoeKENTUCKY]
#22163726 - 08/30/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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why did you try to extract sub with lemon juice??did it work? I just did an extraction on 2oz of fruits with alcohol and have gotten it down to about a shots worth of booze haven't tried it yet just started a new job but I cant wait 
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Re: Using lemon juice to get a hefty second flush??? [Re: tetherface]
#22163730 - 08/30/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you use alcohol for extraction make sure you use vodka since its the water that does the extracting not alcohol
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tetherface
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Re: Using lemon juice to get a hefty second flush??? [Re: bodhisatta]
#22163745 - 08/30/15 08:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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its in 91 proof rum atm I actually used 80%(or so) iso to extract then evaporated that off scraped up goo then re-dissolved in booze then decanted off clear after the junk settled out (think I shoulda de-fatted it somehow but it may just have been super fine fungal matter that got thru my filters(didn't have real filter paper or any glass ware I could set up for vacuum filtration)so I had to take a slight loss to have clear solution i can post pics of both if anyones interested(not trying to threadjack)
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Re: Using lemon juice to get a hefty second flush??? [Re: tetherface]
#22163776 - 08/30/15 08:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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No one I have ever heard of has done a successful extraction that way. Making tea is by far the best extract but the actives don't enjoy being concentrated
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Re: Using lemon juice to get a hefty second flush??? [Re: bodhisatta]
#22164303 - 08/30/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pretty sure any alcohol does not work for extraction
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Re: Using lemon juice to get a hefty second flush??? [Re: tahoe]
#22164331 - 08/30/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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from what I've read it does work but there are conflicting info's all over so I decided to give it a shot I found some science journal entries somewhere comparing effectiveness of extraction and I think methanol was #1 and ethanol is no2 higher concentrations did worse than when there was at least some water present but I found a thread where dude did it with iso successfully and evaporated completely (as I did)but he kept his in "tootsie roll"form where I dissolved in alchol I haven't tried it yet ill let the world know if it works but I have read about RR saying it works great if that matters to you guys edit:link to rr's quotehall you need to know about extractions
Edited by tetherface (08/30/15 11:25 AM)
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Re: Using lemon juice to get a hefty second flush??? [Re: tetherface]
#22164403 - 08/30/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
tetherface said: from what I've read it does work but there are conflicting info's all over so I decided to give it a shot I found some science journal entries somewhere comparing effectiveness of extraction and I think methanol was #1 and ethanol is no2 higher concentrations did worse than when there was at least some water present but I found a thread where dude did it with iso successfully and evaporated completely (as I did)but he kept his in "tootsie roll"form where I dissolved in alchol I haven't tried it yet ill let the world know if it works but I have read about RR saying it works great if that matters to you guys edit:link to rr's quotehall you need to know about extractions
did you also see his quote right below it about using iso wasting a bunch of the actives? zzzzzzzzz
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Re: Using lemon juice to get a hefty second flush??? [Re: newrook]
#22164422 - 08/30/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I did, I wasn't concerned about efficiency as I have a fuckton of fruits around did you read his quote right before that RR"That's just what I've heard so don't take it to the bank, as I'm certainly no chemist." so who really knows maybe my 2oz is now 1oz oh well it fits in a shot glass or less..
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Re: Using lemon juice to get a hefty second flush??? [Re: tetherface]
#22164448 - 08/30/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hefty second flushes are typically the product of a crappy first flush.
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tetherface
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Re: Using lemon juice to get a hefty second flush??? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22164476 - 08/30/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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OP didn't even wait for a second flush he dumped lemon juice in it to try to extract the actives IDK why when he coulda just let it do its thing which it really did anyways when he dumped it outside I dunno seems kinda silly IMO
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Re: Using lemon juice to get a hefty second flush??? [Re: bodhisatta]
#22164841 - 08/30/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: No one I have ever heard of has done a successful extraction that way. Making tea is by far the best extract but the actives don't enjoy being concentrated
agreed, i don't get why people want to make things so complicating all the time with"extracts"...just fucking use water lol
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Re: Using lemon juice to get a hefty second flush??? [Re: cronicr]
#22165017 - 08/30/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wanted to try it simply as an experiment I wouldn't recommend it to anyone else but to me its a novelty item if it worked (hevent sampled it yet) and really 2oz is nothing to cry about if its a fail but most user reports I read were positive so IMO it doesn't hurt to try one of the main reasons I tried it is my gf gets so sick everytime we trip and an extraction supposedly helps with that(from user reports)but we'll see hopefully i'll go to da moon...lolz i'm gonna sample it this weekend on my day off since it got brought up in this thread and OP i'm sorry for thread jacking you bro let me know how yours turns out
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