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Count of Sabugosa
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Gun Enforcement Laws vs. Mental Illness Awareness and Plan of Action
#22163367 - 08/30/15 03:14 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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What is your take regarding current political debates related to distinguishing between mental illness treatment, awareness and control, as opposed to enforcing much more thorough background checks in terms of ethical authority behavior and moral bases?
I for one think that those issues could be tackled as completely different method to achieve the same level of social stability. Although I do not own guns (I like when others use 'em and I’m afraid of them), at least in this issue a take a libertarian position. But even libertarians would agree that, if we have to pass law-enforcement DMV reports on a regular basis, detailing several factors that are not even mostly considered when purchasing weapons, acquiring such weapons should be at least held to the same standards.
What about you?
Also, how do ethics and moral values fit within this subject?
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Edited by Count of Sabugosa (08/30/15 12:32 PM)
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Re: Gun Enforcement Laws vs. Mental Illness Awareness and Plan of Action [Re: Count of Sabugosa]
#22163528 - 08/30/15 06:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here's a broader question. Is UN Agenda 21 "ethical and moral"? Are false flags a "necessary evil"? Do the ends justify the means?
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Count of Sabugosa
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Re: Gun Enforcement Laws vs. Mental Illness Awareness and Plan of Action [Re: LunarEclipse]
#22164637 - 08/30/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Moral is abstract. Is it ethical? Yes, I believe it is, because it is not the text that becomes ambiguous, but how you put it in practice. I just did not quite understand how it relates to gun control v. mental illness....
False flags may be a necessary evil. I did not think about it long enough to reach a consensus. They do not seem, however, to be more than simply evil. But again, where do we fit this in gun control v. mental illness?
Ends justify the means? No absolute answer. As Simone DeBeauvoir would put it if she was here, when your time comes to decide means to ends, you will decide and have to live with the decision for the rest of your life. In this case I understand relevance with gun control. Are guns a necessary evil? Are they justified by the end, which is to achieve social balance in respect to violence? These are excellent questions.
-------------------- In Hebrew, the words "wine" and "secret" hold the same numerologic value. When wine comes in, secrets spill out. Do you think the person who said that knew mushrooms? When mushrooms come in... Is there anything beyond a secret?
Edited by Count of Sabugosa (08/30/15 12:37 PM)
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Re: Gun Enforcement Laws vs. Mental Illness Awareness and Plan of Action [Re: Count of Sabugosa]
#22170374 - 08/31/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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royque1980 said: Moral is abstract. Is it ethical? Yes, I believe it is, because it is not the text that becomes ambiguous, but how you put it in practice. I just did not quite understand how it relates to gun control v. mental illness....
False flags may be a necessary evil. I did not think about it long enough to reach a consensus. They do not seem, however, to be more than simply evil. But again, where do we fit this in gun control v. mental illness?
Ends justify the means? No absolute answer. As Simone DeBeauvoir would put it if she was here, when your time comes to decide means to ends, you will decide and have to live with the decision for the rest of your life. In this case I understand relevance with gun control. Are guns a necessary evil? Are they justified by the end, which is to achieve social balance in respect to violence? These are excellent questions.
Just about every false flag lately is some crazy "lone wolf" white guy that should have never gotten a gun in the first place. Then of course to get rid of that "evil" Confederate flag, what a coup!
Their senator warned of a false flag nuke event in Charleston (planned but not executed), check out that one going back a year or so. Good old Sen Graham.
Well, I don't have to guess about it, the plan of action is at the UN and already signed off by the US and that is to take away the guns. A much bigger false flag is needed to take us into the martial law that will mean door to door searches and gun confiscation.
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