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Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? 1
#22163291 - 08/30/15 02:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The moon is going to turn red next month, and it could mean the end of the world

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Get the bunker stocked up, we're going to need it.
In the wee hours of September 28th we will experience one of the darkest and brightest moons of the year.
At roughly 2 A.M. the moon will be closer to Earth than normal, causing it's shine an extra bright white and become what is known as a 'Supermoon'. Yes, we know it sounds like a child named it, but that's what we're dealing with.
Anyway, the Supermoon won't last for long, as it will then be eclipsed by 4.30 A.M. when the Earth stands directly between it and the Sun. This is expected to last for about an hour and a half, during which time the sun's rays will bend around the Earth, causing the moon to develop a coppery hue, creating a "Blood Moon".
This will be the fourth Blood Moon in a little over a year, which isn't a good thing if you believe the Christian ministers John Hagee and Mark Blitz, who claim that this is a sign that the world is ending.
Supposedly four Blood Moons, and six full moons in between them, which has actually happened this year, is a sign the apocalypse could be on the way, as was predicted it the Book of Revelations.
Due to the moons close proximity, its effect on the oceans will be stronger than usual, thus causing floods of biblical proportions.
The only thing is, the UK National Tidal and Sea Level Facility say that even though tides will rise, it'll only be by about and inch, maybe two. Hardly biblical.
Sounds like a load of nonsense to us, but we're stocking up on bottled water and twinkies just in case. And if the four horsemen don't turn up, we'll just have a gawk at the pretty moon and eat some twinkies. Win win.
Thoughts? Pretty ridiculous article, can't wait for the moon though. Anyone catch it tonight? It was amazing.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon nest month and apocalypse? [Re: musiclover420] 1
#22163299 - 08/30/15 02:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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im looking forward to the moon thats for sure.
but for the blood moon rapture bullshit is exactly tat
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon nest month and apocalypse? [Re: musiclover420]
#22163312 - 08/30/15 02:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't give a shit enough to go looking it up, I'd like to see this so called scripture that predicts this is a sign of the end though.
I'm betting it's not going to be a precise statement. It's not going to be something specific. It's gonna be some random passage with a hundred different ways to interpret it.
Yes I saw the moon tonight. I was doing a drive cycle on my car to get it ready for inspection and that damn thing kept distracting me. Was so big and bright that even after I established what it was I saw out of the corner of my eye the first time, I kept having to look and see wtf that weird out of place light was. Nearly caused me to wreck at one point
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon nest month and apocalypse? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22163319 - 08/30/15 02:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I look forward to it, I think it's going to be beautiful.
Don't think anything sinister of it, I had a good time with the last blue moon.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon nest month and apocalypse? [Re: rackem]
#22163327 - 08/30/15 02:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah it will be glorious, I will have to try and be somewhere special to view it Literally and mentally 
I just thought that article was pretty funny honestly, with a nice moon reminder
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon nest month and apocalypse? [Re: musiclover420] 1
#22163350 - 08/30/15 02:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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These end of days things come up all the time. Pretty hard to believe any of them.
I posted one not too long ago about how the Sun is going to to go into a very dormant state and that we're looking at the new ice age. I didn't really buy into it. I mean I won't discount any possibility on pretty much anything. Even 1 in a billion chances do happen.
I don't really know enough about it to be able to disprove it, so came here and let everyone else do it (which they did a great job ).
Our days are numbered, at least as far as life as we know it goes. Short of finding new homes, there is no escaping the reality that at some point this planet is going to be rendered lifeless. Assuming we avoid all the lesser candidates (direct GRB from a near by star, huge meteorites, planets colliding with us [which isn't even a crazy thought. Earth is what it is because of such an event]) etc etc. If we some how manage to skip all of that shit, in several billion years the Sun will expand and with consume both Mercury and Venus. Whether that growth rate ends up consuming Earth as well, it's a matter of debate. We are close enough that it is a possibility. Even if it doesn't get quite that far, it will make this planet completely uninhabitable.
End of days is coming at some point. It's just the how and when we're uncertain on. Different people/places will tell you different answers of what that time table is. You will get ranges of 4 billion years, to over 7 billions years. That is a very wide discrepancy. The Earth and our solar system are only about 4.5 billion years old.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: musiclover420]
#22163520 - 08/30/15 06:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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#22163540 - 08/30/15 06:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: deucedbi9] 2
#22163812 - 08/30/15 08:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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A couple years ago i went to a bonfire at a friends house so i decided to eat some acid. While i was there i found myself thinking "the moon looks so big and different, why's it look so cool".
Everyone else was pretty drunk, and were telling me i was just tripping. Next morning my friend (who wasn't at the bonfire) texted me, saying we should have tripped last night, there was a supermoon and it would have been awesome.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#22163861 - 08/30/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've heard of the supermoon 'phenomenon' relating to the end of the world on a few of those 'the end is near' TV shows.
Frankly I have bigger concerns than this but it's still pretty neato to look at.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#22164698 - 08/30/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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LuSiD enthusiast said: A couple years ago i went to a bonfire at a friends house so i decided to eat some acid. While i was there i found myself thinking "the moon looks so big and different, why's it look so cool".
Everyone else was pretty drunk, and were telling me i was just tripping. Next morning my friend (who wasn't at the bonfire) texted me, saying we should have tripped last night, there was a supermoon and it would have been awesome.
I love when life works out like that.
I was feeling the desire to trip last night but ended up not then I realized it was a supermoon and wished I had.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: musiclover420]
#22164795 - 08/30/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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No, the earth will not end but things will happen. The worldwide financial crisis keeps coming closer to a total meltdown, it almost happened when china devalued the yuan and their stock market tanked. Its been propped up by heroic means but that won't last long. Smart money is getting out of stocks.
Since the powers that be will never allow things to crash totally, most likely there will be massive printing of money with nothing behind it. Sort of like what we have been doing. At some point the demand for fiat will fall way below supply and inflation will take off like a rocket.
That's all, no biggie unless you have to work for a living.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: musiclover420] 1
#22164930 - 08/30/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Blood moon is aka lunar eclipse. Nothing new under the moon, same old Earth that occasionally gets in the way of the sun. If that is the end of the world it's a pretty arbitrary marker. Yet again apparently this God character likes to play silly games because only the most gullible and prone to flights of fancy should be spared from eternal pain and suffering
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#22164938 - 08/30/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It is not just the blood/super moon. If you bother to read the article: Quote:
Supposedly four Blood Moons, and six full moons in between them, which has actually happened this year, is a sign the apocalypse could be on the way, as was predicted it the Book of Revelations.
It is 4 blood moons with 6 full moons in between idk a lot about astrology but that seems potentially pretty rare.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: musiclover420]
#22164945 - 08/30/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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These nutty people.
Who is this time? The insane fundamentalist or the nut job Jehovah's Witnesses?
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: Janky Tits]
#22164962 - 08/30/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here is something interesting that came up from a quick search: Quote:
The teaching of the four blood moons has recently captivated the attention of the religious world. This teaching states that, when four consecutive blood moons fall on Jewish feast days, a major event affecting the Jewish people will occur in close proximity to that time.
This phenomenon of four consecutive blood moons coinciding with Jewish feast days has only occurred ten times since 1 AD and only three times since 1492 AD. The three times since 1492 are as follows:
Tetrad of 1493-1494 Tetrad of 1949-1950 Tetrad of 1967-1968
Major events affecting the Jewish people have occurred in close proximity to all three of these tetrads.
Source
If your jewish better watch out 
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: musiclover420]
#22164975 - 08/30/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Has anyone tried stabbing a virgen with a gold and silver dagger during these events or beheading a goat?
I always set something up but then people bail out at the last minute.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: musiclover420]
#22164988 - 08/30/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: Here is something interesting that came up from a quick search: Quote:
The teaching of the four blood moons has recently captivated the attention of the religious world. This teaching states that, when four consecutive blood moons fall on Jewish feast days, a major event affecting the Jewish people will occur in close proximity to that time.
This phenomenon of four consecutive blood moons coinciding with Jewish feast days has only occurred ten times since 1 AD and only three times since 1492 AD. The three times since 1492 are as follows:
Tetrad of 1493-1494 Tetrad of 1949-1950 Tetrad of 1967-1968
Major events affecting the Jewish people have occurred in close proximity to all three of these tetrads.
Source
If your jewish better watch out 

Pretty much what I expected some scripture to say about it. "Something big is going to happen". Then they can just point to some random event and go "The moons caused it!"
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: Konyap]
#22164989 - 08/30/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If your Jewish you better watch out, yeah, cause this guy doesn't know if this is a significant happening or not, but he thinks it might be because he read an article.
What of the fact that these predictions aren't actually acurate? What about the Tetrads where nothing significant happened in Jewish history? What of the fact that Jews have a lunar calendar that would kinda explain why their holidays often correspond with lunar events?
Why isn't any of this mentioned in the article? The information is out there. It doesn't seem like they're being selective with what information they provide to back up these prophecies to you?
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#22165021 - 08/30/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The article is a pretty clear attention grab I just thought it was funny and somewhat interesting 
At least they end it with this: Quote:
The only thing is, the UK National Tidal and Sea Level Facility say that even though tides will rise, it'll only be by about and inch, maybe two. Hardly biblical.
Sounds like a load of nonsense to us, but we're stocking up on bottled water and twinkies just in case. And if the four horsemen don't turn up, we'll just have a gawk at the pretty moon and eat some twinkies. Win win.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: musiclover420]
#22165064 - 08/30/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah sorry, nothing personal, I just resent the people who try to profit off of things like this. It really seems like alot of people are eager to buy into this end-is-near stuff because they feel it will validate them somehow, which I think is fucked. The end is near, I am selling my book on it for $19.95, and soliciting donations to my church which provides salvation from this imminent danger
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#22165128 - 08/30/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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No problem, I feel you on that. I hate how people are doing that with psychedelic concepts now too.
"Want to be a better and more spiritual person"
"Interested in guided meditations and other important spiritual guidance?"
"Buy my online lesson now and subscribe for xx$ a month"
"Order my book and online classes now for great discount pricing"
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: musiclover420]
#22165141 - 08/30/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Only "disaster" i have read about is financial and it has to do with the shamat calender or whatever it's called in the jewish faith. Theres a pattern of when it ends the markets takes a big dip. this not word for word. I am dabbing and eating so couldnt be bother to look it up either, anyone who wants to correct me feel free
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: Mescalean]
#22165204 - 08/30/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So we are referred to a article which has no scripture references for its claims and doesn't even quote the original speakers (John Hagee and Mark Blitz) on subject. hmmmm... What to think of this.
Regardless of that weak article, I'm excited to photograph the moon this time!
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: musiclover420]
#22165225 - 08/30/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
musiclover420 said: Here is something interesting that came up from a quick search: Quote:
The teaching of the four blood moons has recently captivated the attention of the religious world. This teaching states that, when four consecutive blood moons fall on Jewish feast days, a major event affecting the Jewish people will occur in close proximity to that time.
This phenomenon of four consecutive blood moons coinciding with Jewish feast days has only occurred ten times since 1 AD and only three times since 1492 AD. The three times since 1492 are as follows:
Tetrad of 1493-1494 Tetrad of 1949-1950 Tetrad of 1967-1968
Major events affecting the Jewish people have occurred in close proximity to all three of these tetrads.
Source
If your jewish better watch out 

Naw it'll be good cause the major event in 1949 was that Jews got Israel then beat a bunch of arab nations asses, and in 1967~ they kicked the fuck out of 6~ or so major arab nations again
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#22165335 - 08/30/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe this moon will finally end the unrest in the middle east!
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Dr.Wongburger said: So we are referred to a article which has no scripture references for its claims and doesn't even quote the original speakers (John Hagee and Mark Blitz) on subject. hmmmm... What to think of this.
Regardless of that weak article, I'm excited to photograph the moon this time!
I love how short the article is, "yeah cool moon coming up, and possibly apocalypse, that is all"
No need to really go into much detail at all... Journalism is turning to crap nowadays... Or it has been for awhile and this is the pinnacle of the crap.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: musiclover420]
#22165620 - 08/30/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: Maybe this moon will finally end the unrest in the middle east!
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Dr.Wongburger said: So we are referred to a article which has no scripture references for its claims and doesn't even quote the original speakers (John Hagee and Mark Blitz) on subject. hmmmm... What to think of this.
Regardless of that weak article, I'm excited to photograph the moon this time!
I love how short the article is, "yeah cool moon coming up, and possibly apocalypse, that is all"
No need to really go into much detail at all... Journalism is turning to crap nowadays... Or it has been for awhile and this is the pinnacle of the crap.
The writer of it was lazy probably or had a general lack of interest. It's like the posts that went around on social media sites recently such as facebook claiming mars was going to be visible from earth. I saw people had been posting it.. I searched it.. The interwebz told me the rumor started because originally in 2003 mar's was as close as it ever had been with in a period of 60 thousand years.
September 27th will be the next and final blood moon.
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/04/15/when-is-the-next-blood-moon-dates-for-rare-lunar-tetrad-october-8-time-san-francisco-biblical-prophecy-eclipse/
Being on subject I find it of interest to go ahead and speak of the biblical significance of the blood moons that are held in high value to Christians and Jewish people world wide.
Let's start with some verses.
“The sun shall be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, before the great and awesome day of the Lord comes.” (Joel 2:31)
“And God said: ‘Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years.” (Genesis 1:14)
“And the Lord spoke unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the Children of Israel, and say unto them, these are my appointed festivals, which you shall proclaim to be sacred assemblies, they are my appointed feasts.” (Leviticus 23:1,2).
Here is some information I pulled from a article/ ebook on the subject which I find to be rather facts more than dealing with faith or religion.
" When four total lunar eclipses take place without any partial lunar eclipses in between, it is called a ‘Tetrad’. Tetrads are rare, having only occurred 54 times in the last 2015 years, however we are now in the middle of what NASA is referring to as the “2014-2015 tetrad”. “The most unique thing about the 2014-2015 tetrad is that all of them are visible for all or parts of the USA,” says longtime NASA eclipse expert Fred Espenak. "
"The Jewish calendar is a lunar calendar, so every Jewish month begins with a new moon. As a result, Jewish holidays move around the secular calendar. For example, according to the Bible, Passover takes place on the “14th day of the first month” known as Nissan. However, in some years Passover occurs in March and other years it occurs in April. Amazingly, all four Blood Moons of the 2014-2015 tetrad overlap with Biblical festivals.
1st Lunar Eclipse - April 15th, 2014 - (Passover 5774) 2nd Lunar Eclipse - October 8th, 2014 - (Sukkot/Tabernacles 5775) 3rd Lunar Eclipse - April 4th, 2015 - (Passover 5775) 4th Lunar Eclipse - September 28th, 2015 - (Sukkot/Tabernacles 5776)"
Tetrads overlapping with Jewish festivals in history
"A total lunar eclipse is rare, a series of uninterrupted lunar eclipses is even more rare, and for the tetrad to overlap with Biblical festivals is exceedingly rare. However, this exceedingly rare occurrence has occurred in history. Each time has been during a period of great significance in Jewish history. In the past 500 years, only three tetrads have overlapped with Jewish Festivals:
1493-1494: 1492 was the final year of the Spanish Inquisition, the devastating expulsion of Jews from Spain, and the year America was discovered by Christopher Columbus, who according to many, was Jewish and looking for a new home for his persecuted brethren.
1949-1950: 1948 was the year the State of Israel was founded, the first Jewish commonwealth in 2,000 years and the miraculous return to their Biblical inheritance. That same year the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered, the earliest Biblical manuscripts to be unearthed.
1967-1968: 1967 was the year of the 6 Day War when Israel defended herself against the attack of 5 Arab nations, liberating Jerusalem and the Biblical lands of Judea and Samaria. Against ominous military challenges, the Jewish State greatly enlarged her small borders."
Already passed this year -
"The year 2015, however is unique in that the Vernal Equinox, or first day of Spring in the Northern Hemisphere, the day that days and nights are of equal length everywhere on earth, occurs on that very same day, about 12 hours later, at 10:45PM GMT in the evening. Furthermore, the Jewish Religious New Year, which begins the Jewish Calendar in the month of Nissan, begins at sundown in Jerusalem on March 20th exactly 5½ hours after the total eclipse at 3:50PM GMT, or at 5:50PM Jerusalem local time.
A Total Solar Eclipse at the North Pole on the first day of Spring has a likelihood of once every 100,000 years. Any spot on earth can expect to see an eclipse roughly every 300 years, but for that to occur on a very specific day of the 365 day calendar yields a rarity of once every 100,000 years. In addition, because the Jewish Religious Calendar has only been in operation for a much shorter time, or 5775 years, it is unlikely such a combined event ever occurred before in Jewish history."
“The concurrence and rarity of this natural event, together with the times in which we live, indicates the finger of God,” said Gidon Ariel, an Israeli Orthodox Jew and co-founder of Root Source. A total solar eclipse at the North Pole on the first day of spring occurs once every 100,000 years. For it to occur on the first day of the first month of the Biblical calendar year is, however, entirely unprecedented since this is only the year 5775 according to Jewish tradition, meaning that there has never been such a solar occurrence in human history."
https://www.billyebrim.org/sites/billyebrim.org/files/bloodmoonebook.pdf
Well I hope you guys enjoyed this good read on the facts surrounding the blood moon.
Reason for edit: grammar correction
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: musiclover420]
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i remember when there was a blood moon in 2013 i went outside at like 3am to see it but it was cloudy as fuck so i just walked around my yard naked instead
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: Sheekle]
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Sheekle said: i remember when there was a blood moon in 2013 i went outside at like 3am to see it but it was cloudy as fuck so i just walked around my yard naked instead
I have only seen one blood moon. I was in my friends 1965 ford Econoline driving up and down huge hills on some dirt roads. I saw it from the passenger seat (he had modified his van to have a passenger seat!) We were high as always (in that time period). It was almost dark out. Had a blast! I will post pictures of the van if wanted.
Anyways enjoy the next blood moon man. It's cool. But yeah, well, that's just, like, my opinion, man.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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Thanks that was a good read, I already felt like it had some cool special significance but that really put it into perspective nicely
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i am the apocalypse mother fuckers and i've arrived early
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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Sheekle said: i remember when there was a blood moon in 2013 i went outside at like 3am to see it but it was cloudy as fuck so i just walked around my yard naked instead
I have only seen one blood moon. I was in my friends 1965 ford Econoline driving up and down huge hills on some dirt roads. I saw it from the passenger seat (he had modified his van to have a passenger seat!) We were high as always (in that time period). It was almost dark out. Had a blast! I will post pictures of the van if wanted.
Anyways enjoy the next blood moon man. It's cool. But yeah, well, that's just, like, my opinion, man.
Yeah, post pix of the van
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: Shroomopotamus]
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Shroomopotamus said: i am the apocalypse mother fuckers and i've arrived early

It's funny out of all the things I read threw, I seen no mention of any apocalypse. I mean.. obviously your the apocalypse.. but like.. from the biblical references of the ebook I quoted earlier man.
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Sheekle said: i remember when there was a blood moon in 2013 i went outside at like 3am to see it but it was cloudy as fuck so i just walked around my yard naked instead
I have only seen one blood moon. I was in my friends 1965 ford Econoline driving up and down huge hills on some dirt roads. I saw it from the passenger seat (he had modified his van to have a passenger seat!) We were high as always (in that time period). It was almost dark out. Had a blast! I will post pictures of the van if wanted.
Anyways enjoy the next blood moon man. It's cool. But yeah, well, that's just, like, my opinion, man.
Yeah, post pix of the van
Sure thing man. I just have to shut down my pc real quick and switch hard drives (plug the other one in) and grab em. Ill be back in 5 or 6 mins.. or so.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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I will start up a bar during the apocalypse and brew/distil hella alcohol for all those that survive.
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Sheekle said: i remember when there was a blood moon in 2013 i went outside at like 3am to see it but it was cloudy as fuck so i just walked around my yard naked instead
I have only seen one blood moon. I was in my friends 1965 ford Econoline driving up and down huge hills on some dirt roads. I saw it from the passenger seat (he had modified his van to have a passenger seat!) We were high as always (in that time period). It was almost dark out. Had a blast! I will post pictures of the van if wanted.
Anyways enjoy the next blood moon man. It's cool. But yeah, well, that's just, like, my opinion, man.
Yeah, post pix of the van
I could only find one picture on my linux harddrive. Next time i'm at my buddy's house I shall ask if I can pull more photos off his laptop.
You know this van has probably seen so much weed in its time. It's a shame he sold this thing. I bet some ones smoking weed in it right now...lmao.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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A+ for effort, ur the best new shroomery poster ever. that's an oldskool lookin front bumper of a van
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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1493-1494: 1492 was the final year of the Spanish Inquisition, the devastating expulsion of Jews from Spain, and the year America was discovered by Christopher Columbus, who according to many, was Jewish and looking for a new home for his persecuted brethren.
1949-1950: 1948 was the year the State of Israel was founded, the first Jewish commonwealth in 2,000 years and the miraculous return to their Biblical inheritance. That same year the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered, the earliest Biblical manuscripts to be unearthed.
1967-1968: 1967 was the year of the 6 Day War when Israel defended herself against the attack of 5 Arab nations, liberating Jerusalem and the Biblical lands of Judea and Samaria. Against ominous military challenges, the Jewish State greatly enlarged her small borders."
Since all these dates seem to preceed the astronomical events associated with them here, wouldn't the significant events that are supposed to happen to Jews have already happened sometime in the past year? If we're trying to find a pattern, the events happen no less than 10 months before the start of the astronomical occurrences.
Are you fairly certain that these Biblical prophecies are referring to a lunar eclipse? That seems to be a stretch to me.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: moonrockmushy]
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1493-1494: 1492 was the final year of the Spanish Inquisition, the devastating expulsion of Jews from Spain, and the year America was discovered by Christopher Columbus, who according to many, was Jewish and looking for a new home for his persecuted brethren.
1949-1950: 1948 was the year the State of Israel was founded, the first Jewish commonwealth in 2,000 years and the miraculous return to their Biblical inheritance. That same year the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered, the earliest Biblical manuscripts to be unearthed.
1967-1968: 1967 was the year of the 6 Day War when Israel defended herself against the attack of 5 Arab nations, liberating Jerusalem and the Biblical lands of Judea and Samaria. Against ominous military challenges, the Jewish State greatly enlarged her small borders."
Since all these dates seem to preceed the astronomical events associated with them here, wouldn't the significant events that are supposed to happen to Jews have already happened sometime in the past year? If we're trying to find a pattern, the events happen no less than 10 months before the start of the astronomical occurrences.
Are you fairly certain that these Biblical prophecies are referring to a lunar eclipse? That seems to be a stretch to me.
The source says its a 500 year pattern of tetrads overlapping with Jewish Festivals. They are talking of Lunar eclipses. Crazy stuff!
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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Well this is what my source says:
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Israel uses a lunar calendar, and they base their feast days upon the phases of the moon. Logic would dictate that because of this fact alone, lunar eclipses will fall on Jewish feast days with some regularity. In an article published by Answers in Genesis[5] regarding Biltz’s Blood Moon Theory, they commented on the rarity of total lunar eclipses falling on Passover and Sukkot in this way:
“No, it’s really not that unusual. Remember, a lunar eclipse happens only at full moon. We don’t follow a strictly lunar calendar today, but most ancient people, including the Hebrews, did. Their months began with the first appearance of the crescent of the new moon, which is a day or so after our modern definition of a new moon (when the moon and sun are in longitudinal conjunction). Reckoning from this point, fourteen days later, or the fifteenth of the month, always coincides with full moon.”
The article then discusses the frequency in which lunar eclipses fell on Passover and Sukkot, the same feast days as in the Blood Moon theory.
They start off here by mentioning that so far in the 20th century this has happened 37 times:
“…we can say that all 37 of these lunar eclipses coincided with Passover or Sukkot. This is about one-sixth (37/230) of the twentieth-century lunar eclipses, which is what we would expect because Passover and Sukkot happen in two of the 12 months. The relatively high frequency is a result of definition of the fifteenth day of the month on a lunar calendar. Therefore, again, the coincidence of lunar eclipses with these two observances is more common than Biltz realizes.”
So, do you understand what they’re saying?
They’re saying that lunar eclipses are so common on these particular Jewish holidays that it’s occurred 37 times just in the 20th century. They are so common that Biltz and Hagee have had to essentially say, “Okay, yeah, eclipses on these Jewish holidays do happen all the time, but how about two eclipses within two years of one another? Oh, that’s common, too. Well, how about four eclipses within two years of each other? Oh, that’s common, too. Well, how about we throw two of those away, and only look at the other three, and twist those a bit, and then we’ll have something to write a book about?”
http://bibleprophecytalk.com/bpt-blood-moon-theory-debunked-and-more/
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: moonrockmushy]
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Israel uses a lunar calendar, and they base their feast days upon the phases of the moon. Logic would dictate that because of this fact alone, lunar eclipses will fall on Jewish feast days with some regularity. In an article published by Answers in Genesis[5] regarding Biltz’s Blood Moon Theory, they commented on the rarity of total lunar eclipses falling on Passover and Sukkot in this way:
“No, it’s really not that unusual. Remember, a lunar eclipse happens only at full moon. We don’t follow a strictly lunar calendar today, but most ancient people, including the Hebrews, did. Their months began with the first appearance of the crescent of the new moon, which is a day or so after our modern definition of a new moon (when the moon and sun are in longitudinal conjunction). Reckoning from this point, fourteen days later, or the fifteenth of the month, always coincides with full moon.”
The article then discusses the frequency in which lunar eclipses fell on Passover and Sukkot, the same feast days as in the Blood Moon theory.
They start off here by mentioning that so far in the 20th century this has happened 37 times:
“…we can say that all 37 of these lunar eclipses coincided with Passover or Sukkot. This is about one-sixth (37/230) of the twentieth-century lunar eclipses, which is what we would expect because Passover and Sukkot happen in two of the 12 months. The relatively high frequency is a result of definition of the fifteenth day of the month on a lunar calendar. Therefore, again, the coincidence of lunar eclipses with these two observances is more common than Biltz realizes.”
So, do you understand what they’re saying?
They’re saying that lunar eclipses are so common on these particular Jewish holidays that it’s occurred 37 times just in the 20th century. They are so common that Biltz and Hagee have had to essentially say, “Okay, yeah, eclipses on these Jewish holidays do happen all the time, but how about two eclipses within two years of one another? Oh, that’s common, too. Well, how about four eclipses within two years of each other? Oh, that’s common, too. Well, how about we throw two of those away, and only look at the other three, and twist those a bit, and then we’ll have something to write a book about?”
http://bibleprophecytalk.com/bpt-blood-moon-theory-debunked-and-more/
I don't understand all about this stuff but check out this page by NASA -
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2014/27mar_tetrad/
When four total lunar eclipses take place without any partial lunar eclipses in between, it is called a ‘Tetrad’. Tetrads are rare, having only occurred 54 times in the last 2015 years, however we are now in the middle of what NASA is referring to as the “2014-2015 tetrad”. “The most unique thing about the 2014-2015 tetrad is that all of them are visible for all or parts of the USA,” says longtime NASA eclipse expert Fred Espenak. "
NASA says "On average, lunar eclipses occur about twice a year, but not all of them are total."
"During the 21st century, there are 8 sets of tetrads, so I would describe tetrads as a frequent occurrence in the current pattern of lunar eclipses," says Espenak. "But this has not always been the case. During the three hundred year interval from 1600 to 1900, for instance, there were no tetrads at all."
So, I'm not sure if this is in relevance of what you posted (due to my lack of understanding and research) however I guess you could say NASA claims these particular Lunar eclipses have been rare for sometime, until recent times.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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There's been 54 in the past 2000 years, and some are near to significant events. To me that is clearly a coincidence, and not really that amazing in of itself. My problem with what I read from your source is stating that this is the fiddlings of a god. If it is, it's a sloppy god.
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Or a super duper badass god that makes patterns way too heady for the likes of peons
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: twighead]
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Maybe this time it means the jews will overreach and lose back their stolen land?
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: moonrockmushy]
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moonrockmushy said: There's been 54 in the past 2000 years, and some are near to significant events. To me that is clearly a coincidence, and not really that amazing in of itself. My problem with what I read from your source is stating that this is the fiddlings of a god. If it is, it's a sloppy god.
The idea of subject matter is not to convince any one of a religion.
Within these thoughts, the article posted by OP claims there is biblical significance to the idea of "This could be the end of the world" within the involvements of the red moons, rather based from scripture or religious claims. With the particular subject I'm not sure what basis you would have to comment on such sorts other than religious or biblical evidence, unless there is some type of scientific explanation for why the occurrences of the red moons would mean the end of the world. Thus my reason for turning to religious sources. I have yet to see the scriptures that claim the happenings of the red moons means the end of the world. Don't get me wrong.. I did not say its not there... I just doubt it.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: deucedbi9]
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I might trip one night during the blood moon maybe
Gonna be cool regardless  space planets that shit blows my mind
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Gonna be cool regardless  space planets that shit blows my mind
i thought it was beautiful the one time ive seen one. the desert was a beautiful setting for it
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: SunnyD]
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The assumption is that right after the blood moon we will have a "end of every thing" style crisis, similar to that of the end of the world 2012 Myan calendar crap. Also reminds me of Y2K. I cannot even see this being scripturally plausible on its own. What about the rapture? That's in scripture. I suppose the rapture would have to happen on the SAME exact night as the blood moon to make this "end of the world" idea come to light. I doubt if studied out in context(s) that it would even fit together to happen in the same time frame like that.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#22166284 - 08/30/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: There's been 54 in the past 2000 years, and some are near to significant events. To me that is clearly a coincidence, and not really that amazing in of itself. My problem with what I read from your source is stating that this is the fiddlings of a god. If it is, it's a sloppy god.
The idea of subject matter is not to convince any one of a religion.
Within these thoughts, the article posted by OP claims there is biblical significance to the idea of "This could be the end of the world" within the involvements of the red moons, rather based from scripture or religious claims. With the particular subject I'm not sure what basis you would have to comment on such sorts other than religious or biblical evidence, unless there is some type of scientific explanation for why the occurrences of the red moons would mean the end of the world. Thus my reason for turning to religious sources. I have yet to see the scriptures that claim the happenings of the red moons means the end of the world. Don't get me wrong.. I did not say its not there... I just doubt it.
If you watched the video or read the transcript that I linked, you would see that my source is also religious.
I would like to know what doesn't indicate that the end is near to people who are already convinced that this is inevitable. The only way to see this as validation of scripture is to be very selective with what scriptures you choose, and what events you choose to tie to them. Pretty much anything could be proven like this.
It sounds to me like you're leaning towards this event having some supernatural significance, but you're hedging your bets and saying, maybe it's the end of the world, maybe it's significant in another way. I don't see how that helps anyone though.
I'm sure things will happen on the blood moon, things always are happening. I'm sure that the people who claim it is the end of the world will just roll over and pick another date in the not-too-distant future to feed to people looking for answers, despite the fact that such people have been proven wrong since the dawn of civilization.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#22166364 - 08/30/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Speaking of Bloodmoons....According to TV Pastor John Hagee, the apocalypse will occur in 2017
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#22166640 - 08/30/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: There's been 54 in the past 2000 years, and some are near to significant events. To me that is clearly a coincidence, and not really that amazing in of itself. My problem with what I read from your source is stating that this is the fiddlings of a god. If it is, it's a sloppy god.
The idea of subject matter is not to convince any one of a religion.
Within these thoughts, the article posted by OP claims there is biblical significance to the idea of "This could be the end of the world" within the involvements of the red moons, rather based from scripture or religious claims. With the particular subject I'm not sure what basis you would have to comment on such sorts other than religious or biblical evidence, unless there is some type of scientific explanation for why the occurrences of the red moons would mean the end of the world. Thus my reason for turning to religious sources. I have yet to see the scriptures that claim the happenings of the red moons means the end of the world. Don't get me wrong.. I did not say its not there... I just doubt it.
If you watched the video or read the transcript that I linked, you would see that my source is also religious.
I would like to know what doesn't indicate that the end is near to people who are already convinced that this is inevitable. The only way to see this as validation of scripture is to be very selective with what scriptures you choose, and what events you choose to tie to them. Pretty much anything could be proven like this.
It sounds to me like you're leaning towards this event having some supernatural significance, but you're hedging your bets and saying, maybe it's the end of the world, maybe it's significant in another way. I don't see how that helps anyone though.
I'm sure things will happen on the blood moon, things always are happening. I'm sure that the people who claim it is the end of the world will just roll over and pick another date in the not-too-distant future to feed to people looking for answers, despite the fact that such people have been proven wrong since the dawn of civilization.
mmmm... you are correct I did not check your sources. (just took a look and watched the video)
You should post what does indicate it. I really don't care what Mark Biltz or John Hagee have to say about the subject. To me those are random names and people.
I honestly in all ways do not see it as the end of the world. I put the idea into the same category of Y2K or the 2012 ancient Mayan Calender. Earlier I posted why Christians or Jews find this stuff as of having value. Can you quote me otherwise?
From my understanding Chris White is a Christian(from my small review of his website. Is that right? (I could not find a wikki page on him and with all the debunks I'm not sure what to think other than he is or has a religion of some type for this to be from a religious stand point)
Regardless I do not hold the stance that the blood moons mean the end of the world (as I posted earlier).
I do however stick with what facts say, as I quoted NASA earlier.
"NASA says "On average, lunar eclipses occur about twice a year, but not all of them are total."
"During the 21st century, there are 8 sets of tetrads, so I would describe tetrads as a frequent occurrence in the current pattern of lunar eclipses," says Espenak. "But this has not always been the case. During the three hundred year interval from 1600 to 1900, for instance, there were no tetrads at all."
So, I'm not sure if this is in relevance of what you posted (due to my lack of understanding and research) however I guess you could say NASA claims these particular Lunar eclipses have been rare for sometime, until recent times."
which was a response to your sources saying that lunar eclipses are common.
My response was completely non religiously motivated.
I do see scripture as important considering all this mess is because of scripture/ The Holy Bible.
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"With the particular subject I'm not sure what basis you would have to comment on such sorts other than religious or biblical evidence.......Thus my reason for turning to religious sources."
You have proven to me that your sources are religious. I'm not to sure now what your point of argument is. Maybe some type of assumption that I am religious? I'm not sure what would indicate that, seeing i'm on subject with the threads topic.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#22167174 - 08/30/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Read page 10 of your source and tell me that is not referring to an apocalypse:
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According to many Bible believers, the 500 year pattern of tetrads overlapping with Jewish Festivals means that there is great significance to the 2014-2015 period we now live in. The last three examples demonstrate a pattern of Jewish persecution followed by miraculous intervention where God rescues Israel from danger and leads the Jewish people to safety and vibrancy. The Jewish people today are confronted with genocidal threats from a nuclear Iran, brutal terrorism from Islamic Jihadists, and isolation from the liberal, western world. The pattern of persecution and danger is there, but will the pattern continue and will we be blessed to see God’s miraculous intervention and restoration of Israel once again?
You do know what the restoration of Israel means, right?
My main problem is that you grouped the whole finger of God thing under the "facts" section in your first post.
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“The concurrence and rarity of this natural event, together with the times in which we live, indicates the finger of God,”
I thought that was suspicious, and I'm definitely under the impression like you're looking for something to be supernatural here, but maybe I am reading into what you are saying too much.
To be honest I'm not sure what your point is either. The source you are using draws on the same exact information and misconceptions as Blitz/Hagee, it is just as unscientific and biased. Actually it seems like they are unfairly taking credit for Blitz/Hagee's work, as dubious as that work might be, or perhaps it is the other way around.
Rare is a relative term. Plenty of things are rare, but that doesn't make them significant. I think the source I provided did a pretty good job of showing this. When it comes to astronomy 2000 years is a very short time, and lunar eclipses do happen rather frequently. When in why this happens is determined by physical laws that we understand well enough, and to use NASA data to support pseudoscience rubs me the wrong way.
The apocalypse is brought up in the OP. You do not think this is the apocalypse, but I feel like I am getting hints that you're looking for it to be something. There's no reason to think that it is connected to some divine plan whatsoever, other than some people want it to be so. All this talk of tetrads and history is befuddling enough that many people will just accept it without actually digging into the information, which is pretty much how pseudoscience thrives.
I feel like the whole {astronomical event X} means {prophecy Y} should automatically set off people's BS detectors, but like I said some people are eager for this and will ignore reason in favor of their fantasy of being validated in a divine manner.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#22167836 - 08/31/15 06:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Read page 10 of your source and tell me that is not referring to an apocalypse:
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According to many Bible believers, the 500 year pattern of tetrads overlapping with Jewish Festivals means that there is great significance to the 2014-2015 period we now live in. The last three examples demonstrate a pattern of Jewish persecution followed by miraculous intervention where God rescues Israel from danger and leads the Jewish people to safety and vibrancy. The Jewish people today are confronted with genocidal threats from a nuclear Iran, brutal terrorism from Islamic Jihadists, and isolation from the liberal, western world. The pattern of persecution and danger is there, but will the pattern continue and will we be blessed to see God’s miraculous intervention and restoration of Israel once again?
You do know what the restoration of Israel means, right?
My main problem is that you grouped the whole finger of God thing under the "facts" section in your first post.
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“The concurrence and rarity of this natural event, together with the times in which we live, indicates the finger of God,”
I thought that was suspicious, and I'm definitely under the impression like you're looking for something to be supernatural here, but maybe I am reading into what you are saying too much.
To be honest I'm not sure what your point is either. The source you are using draws on the same exact information and misconceptions as Blitz/Hagee, it is just as unscientific and biased. Actually it seems like they are unfairly taking credit for Blitz/Hagee's work, as dubious as that work might be, or perhaps it is the other way around.
Rare is a relative term. Plenty of things are rare, but that doesn't make them significant. I think the source I provided did a pretty good job of showing this. When it comes to astronomy 2000 years is a very short time, and lunar eclipses do happen rather frequently. When in why this happens is determined by physical laws that we understand well enough, and to use NASA data to support pseudoscience rubs me the wrong way.
The apocalypse is brought up in the OP. You do not think this is the apocalypse, but I feel like I am getting hints that you're looking for it to be something. There's no reason to think that it is connected to some divine plan whatsoever, other than some people want it to be so. All this talk of tetrads and history is befuddling enough that many people will just accept it without actually digging into the information, which is pretty much how pseudoscience thrives.
I feel like the whole {astronomical event X} means {prophecy Y} should automatically set off people's BS detectors, but like I said some people are eager for this and will ignore reason in favor of their fantasy of being validated in a divine manner.
If you read my post it says "Here is some information I pulled from a article/ ebook on the subject which I find to be rather facts more than dealing with faith or religion."
Also if you are still interested I posted " the biblical significance of the blood moons that are held in high value to Christians and Jewish people world wide. "
This subject surrounds Christians and Jews. My sources are religious which do involve God. I'm not sure why you want to remove the subject of thought here. Being God, bible, scripture. Blood moons.
I'm not going to argue with what you may or may not think of my personal views of life within religion or no religion, if I have indicated any of those things.
My main point was as I already posted. I don't mean nothing more or nothing less by this.
"NASA says "On average, lunar eclipses occur about twice a year, but not all of them are total."
"During the 21st century, there are 8 sets of tetrads, so I would describe tetrads as a frequent occurrence in the current pattern of lunar eclipses," says Espenak. "But this has not always been the case. During the three hundred year interval from 1600 to 1900, for instance, there were no tetrads at all."
So, I'm not sure if this is in relevance of what you posted (due to my lack of understanding and research) however I guess you could say NASA claims these particular Lunar eclipses have been rare for sometime, until recent times."
which was a response to your sources saying that lunar eclipses are common.
Earlier I posted this "I honestly in all ways do not see it as the end of the world. I put the idea into the same category of Y2K or the 2012 ancient Mayan Calender. Earlier I posted why Christians or Jews find this stuff as of having value. Can you quote me otherwise? ". I now reinstate it.
Within where things involve this Hagee and Blitz you keep talking about, you do what makes you happy, I'm not sure of their significance to me (I don't know them) or most people involved here.
You said: "I thought that was suspicious, and I'm definitely under the impression like you're looking for something to be supernatural here, but maybe I am reading into what you are saying too much." " You do not think this is the apocalypse, but I feel like I am getting hints that you're looking for it to be something." "The source you are using draws on the same exact information and misconceptions as Blitz/Hagee, it is just as unscientific and biased. Actually it seems like they are unfairly taking credit for Blitz/Hagee's work, as dubious as that work might be, or perhaps it is the other way around."
Once again I must say non of my posts are motivated to convince you of a religion. I'm not trying and I don't think any one else is trying to convert you here. Maybe its the things you are presented with here and the subject working on you. You never answered a question or two I think from my last post involving Chris. That's okay.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#22168185 - 08/31/15 09:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I find you incredibly cryptic.
Yes the maker of that video is Christian from what I can tell, but that is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. He manages to dispute these ideas effectively, and shows how this whole "blood-moon" thing is based on twisting of scripture and cherry-picked data. I appreciated that he made the point that if this is to be viewed as fufilling these specific prophecies, something far greater than a series of eclipses would be happening, perhaps even something actually supernatural.
When the whole Earth starts shaking, and the sun and stars are blacked out, maybe then we can start expecting the end of the world. If you're going to take a normal astronomical occurrence that is really unremarkable in terms of how it impacts human life, you might as well start taking cloudy days as a sign that the end is near.
I am not trying to remove religion from the subject, I am disputing that there is a supernatural significance to these events. Why do some people believe these events are significant? Because they have been mislead by people like Blitz/Hagee and your source that draws on the same inconsistent data. This is not in any way a common belief in the Judeo-Christian world to my knowledge, it is the stuff of mystics who thrive on Youtube and Amazon bestseller list.
Lunar eclipses are relatively common, and there is nothing that special about these ones that would give someone who understands astronomy pause to think that there is something more than normal going on here. It may be that there are more eclipses than the average based on the data we have, and the eclipses might be visible over a large area, but that is bound to happen the way our planetary bodies move and interact with eachother. Some years there might be very few total lunar eclipses, which to me would make just as much sense to tie prophecies to.
If this is going to be treated as "the finger of God" I think the standards are very low. Only through ignoring the totality of the Bible passages referred to, and throwing out data that would otherwise be included as associated with this cycle of events can it be made even slightly convincing.
And I know, you do not think this is the apocalypse, but that is what we are talking about here. If you're just impressed at the science and math behind this, and the fact that it is a relatively rare happening, I would suggest making another thread as this one deals with the apocalyptic prophecies surrounding the event.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: musiclover420]
#22168196 - 08/31/15 09:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am an apocalypse junky and eagerly follow any doomsday predictions or theories, but the whole class of "the moon is cool the world is going to end! " theories never made any sense to me.
I love the moon though.
The moon is disgusting...
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: Moonshoe]
#22168251 - 08/31/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wouldn't mind it so much if the discussions were more balanced (not here really as much as on youtube an in pop culture). It's so rare that you find someone who actually makes an effort to present a balanced viewpoint, and so common that people just parrot information fed to them without investigating arguments to the contrary.
You may not be trying to convert anyone Dr. Wong, but I believe the whole idea behind these articles using cherry-picked scientific data to support religious notions is to spur people to become more religious, or even better to give money to the people who promote these ideas and offer salvation from the end of the world. That's obviously their motive. I definitely resent that more than people who just find these things enjoyable on a personal level.
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#22168641 - 08/31/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: I find you incredibly cryptic.
Yes the maker of that video is Christian from what I can tell, but that is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. He manages to dispute these ideas effectively, and shows how this whole "blood-moon" thing is based on twisting of scripture and cherry-picked data. I appreciated that he made the point that if this is to be viewed as fufilling these specific prophecies, something far greater than a series of eclipses would be happening, perhaps even something actually supernatural.
When the whole Earth starts shaking, and the sun and stars are blacked out, maybe then we can start expecting the end of the world. If you're going to take a normal astronomical occurrence that is really unremarkable in terms of how it impacts human life, you might as well start taking cloudy days as a sign that the end is near.
I am not trying to remove religion from the subject, I am disputing that there is a supernatural significance to these events. Why do some people believe these events are significant? Because they have been mislead by people like Blitz/Hagee and your source that draws on the same inconsistent data. This is not in any way a common belief in the Judeo-Christian world to my knowledge, it is the stuff of mystics who thrive on Youtube and Amazon bestseller list.
Lunar eclipses are relatively common, and there is nothing that special about these ones that would give someone who understands astronomy pause to think that there is something more than normal going on here. It may be that there are more eclipses than the average based on the data we have, and the eclipses might be visible over a large area, but that is bound to happen the way our planetary bodies move and interact with eachother. Some years there might be very few total lunar eclipses, which to me would make just as much sense to tie prophecies to.
If this is going to be treated as "the finger of God" I think the standards are very low. Only through ignoring the totality of the Bible passages referred to, and throwing out data that would otherwise be included as associated with this cycle of events can it be made even slightly convincing.
And I know, you do not think this is the apocalypse, but that is what we are talking about here. If you're just impressed at the science and math behind this, and the fact that it is a relatively rare happening, I would suggest making another thread as this one deals with the apocalyptic prophecies surrounding the event.
You point out the "Finger of God" quote often. Please remember those are not my words. That's from the source. I have posted why those - the source - Christians and Jews have found the red moons significant. I see nothing wrong with that, being completely on subject (these Christians and Jews from my understanding don't believe it is a apocalypse however I do not follow them- know all about their beliefs so I can not speak for them).
I do not see it as irrelevant if he's a Christian or not. These events surrounding the red moons and the bible are all about and from the Holy Bible which is The new testament and the old testament (to Jews just the old If I remember correctly). Testament means covenant. This subject surrounds those that are in Covenant with the biblical God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Looking for accuracy on the subject I would like my information to come from those who are participating (the entire reason for religious sources - this is about religion). This is important if I am going to look at this from a third person perspective.
I feel you are directing these things at me. I am not vouching for it. I simply posted why Christians (The ones that Chris are disputing even) and Jewish people, are finding these events significant. I have disputed that there is lack of evidence for a apocalypse - I don't see a apocalypse happening. Which you can dispute however I don't mind if that's incorrect - I thrive to learn. I would enjoy to see your scriptural references (if you have those, which you may very well be able to provide, however I believe you said you feel it is not important). I feel religious doctrines or creeds are just made up- usually not scriptural based. Any one or group of people can make up a doctrine.
I added a good amount of information to the community about the subject. There's always more than one view point towards things. I see nothing wrong with that.
BTW the title of the thread is "Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse?" with a question mark. Meaning yes or no. I see my self on topic- no need for another thread.
"people just parrot information fed to them without investigating arguments to the contrary." <<This does not mean we should just ignore it and pretend its not there. By adding the information I did I added to the understanding of why these particular people are believing the way they are. BTW I have nothing against any disputing of the information. As I posted tho this is why many are finding it significant. I'm glad to hear you conclude that I'm not trying to convert any one but simply presented information.
I must say one more thing. It feels good to be called Dr.Wong bahhahahaha
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Re: Blood moon/ supermoon next month and apocalypse? [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#22168726 - 08/31/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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"You do know what the restoration of Israel means, right? My main problem is that you grouped the whole finger of God thing under the "facts" section in your first post."
Those are not my words. That you are responding to. You are asking the writer of the passage if he knows what the restoration of Israel means, not me. Btw, I will re quote myself - Here is some information I pulled from a article/ ebook on the subject which I find to be rather facts more than dealing with faith or religion. I did not say it was entirely facts. I said it was rather more than. Coming from a religious sources how could you not expect any involvement of religion anyways? Please bring to my attention any thing I for get to answer. I do appreciate it.
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