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SpaceDawg



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mescaline citrate
#22161689 - 08/29/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So I'm going to see primus and the chocolate factory on my bday this year and thought what a perfect time to try out my mescaline citrate. I was thinking doing a dose of 300mg split into 2 doses an hour apart finishing the second dose a few hours before the show. Anyone have any first hand input about if this should be a decent introduction to mescaline? I figured this dose shouldn't have me tripping too hard but defiantly enough to feel the effects. I'd just like to know what to expect. I've done my research but am still a little up in arms about it.
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Re: mescaline citrate [Re: SpaceDawg]
#22161726 - 08/29/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You might not want to do that with a shit load of people around. And you won't want to be driving either. I vote no. Not to mescaline but to that situation
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SpaceDawg



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I will have a hotel room. My girlfriend can drive and ill be with a bunch of people I am comfortable around if that makes any difference.
-------------------- I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
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Re: mescaline citrate [Re: SpaceDawg]
#22161746 - 08/29/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is citrate more or less potent than hcl?
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Re: mescaline citrate [Re: Zombi3]
#22161764 - 08/29/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Less potent by weight I believe 300mg of citrate is about 242mg of hcl
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Edited by SpaceDawg (08/29/15 05:42 PM)
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Re: mescaline citrate [Re: SpaceDawg]
#22161812 - 08/29/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Any less nausea than hcl? Ive heard hcl is awful for nausea.
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Re: mescaline citrate [Re: Zombi3]
#22161846 - 08/29/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't think so. This is why I planned to split the dose into 2 and to dose hours before the show cause I hear the nausea subsides after a little time.
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Re: mescaline citrate [Re: SpaceDawg]
#22161857 - 08/29/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ive never done mescaline so know that before I say this but I dont think your dose sounds too high for the situation youll be in, I bet youll have a badass time. Nausea would be my only concern, take a dramamine if theres no contrindications between the two if needed.
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Re: mescaline citrate [Re: Zombi3]
#22162012 - 08/29/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks. That's how I feel about it too. Anyone with experience eating mescaline wanna chime in?
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Re: mescaline citrate [Re: SpaceDawg]
#22162052 - 08/29/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Primus sucks. Do you trip in public in general? Light doses of shrooms or L? Sounds like a practical dose, but it's really more about your tripping habits. I refuse to trip in public, so the answer for me is always going to be no. I'm agoraphobic and full of enough anxiety about large crowds to begin with to know that there's no way I would take any kind of dose before going to a show.
If you can handle doing 2g mushrooms or 50-70 mcg LSD at a show I would say that your plan seems like a sensible dose for mescaline. Haven't done it myself but everyone I've ever talked to has said it's way more social and easy going than mushrooms and perhaps even a little bit easier than L. Your plan to split the dose sounds like a good idea, that way you can back off if the nausea is too much. Good luck and enjoy the show.
Edited by P.Zappatecorum (08/29/15 06:55 PM)
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I've had both the citrate and the hydrochloride. Despite what the math says, I think the citrate is a little stronger. 250mg of the HCl salt is good enough for me to get in a solidly positive mindset with introspective thinking and a decently enhanced perceptual aesthetic. 250mg of the citrate salt had me tripping quite a bit more intensely for the first couple of hours.
Maybe the citrate helps the body absorb the mescaline more efficiently? Since it is likely more lipophilic of an acid than HCl is, being that it's organic...
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Re: mescaline citrate [Re: Achuma]
#22164096 - 08/30/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cool thanks guys. I think I'm go thru with it and ill make sure to post a trip report after.
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Re: mescaline citrate [Re: SpaceDawg]
#22164387 - 08/30/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hope you enjoy yourself brother! I don't like primus myself but one of my good buddies LOVES them and frequently takes LSD/Mushrooms/MDMA at their shows. He always has good things to say afterwards  I'm sure he would have taken mescaline at one of the shows by now if he had access to mescaline lol
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Re: mescaline citrate [Re: Zombi3]
#22165142 - 08/30/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I think it'll be a good time. Its primus' re-imaging of Charlie and the chocolate factory for gods sake, its like it was made for tripping. I can see why some people don't like primus it is defiantly an inquired taste, but being a bass player myself Im just infatuated with Les Claypool. NO ONE plays the bass like that man.
Edited by SpaceDawg (08/30/15 03:06 PM)
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Re: mescaline citrate [Re: SpaceDawg]
#22166281 - 08/30/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's not what I would recommend but it will most likely be a great time anyway.
I never recommend tripping in public your first time on a new substance. My first time on mescaline was crazy overwhemling and I could not have been in public on it, I got nauseous and was only comfortable lying down. But I took way too much (unexpectedly potent cactus).
If you are experienced with other psychedelics, there is no reason you shouldn't be ok.
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