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Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges?
    #22161588 - 08/29/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

A month or so ago, i had taken this stuff called C-Time 1000 that has Vitamin C, Orange bioflavonoids and Rose Hips, on the comedown of an Ayahuasca (Rue and Mimosa) experience. And i was surprised when i felt something that as far as i can remember i've only felt once before in my life when i was a kid. It was some sort of an orangey feeling psychoactivity, i definitely felt a psychoactive orangey feeling which was very familiar to a feeling i had experienced once when i was a kid though i can't remember if i had eaten Oranges or had some Orange bioflavonoids at that time.

It makes me wonder if Oranges can be psychoactive if MAO-A is inhibited or a CYP liver enzyme is inhibited or perhaps it was the DMT that brought the Orange's psychoactivity to life?

Idk, anyone else ever experienced something like this in their lives?

I wish i could experience that feeling again, but it only happened the first time i took the C-Time 1000 and no matter how much i've taken of it since, it's never happened again.

Btw, i'm not kidding, there was definitely psychoactivity, that was no placebo lol. Like i said, it was an orangey feeling, that's the only way i can describe it. Perhaps it was some sort of psychoactive terpene or something? Isn't there like a rumor or something that Orange peels are psychoactive? I know most people blow that off, so did i, but now it's got me wondering... I definitely felt something from the Orange bioflavonoids that i haven't been able to feel again, i know for sure it was the Orange bioflavonoids, and i'm pretty sure the Rose Hips and Vitamin C didn't cause it.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Sabnock]
    #22162125 - 08/29/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Really? No one else has ever experienced anything from an Orange? lol. Well there's definitely something to it. Come on folks, i can't be the only one lol.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Sabnock]
    #22162637 - 08/29/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Oranges and other citrus fruits contain small amounts
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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22162729 - 08/29/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Oranges and other citrus fruits contain small amounts
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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22162749 - 08/29/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah dude..

It's a crazy world we live in


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22162789 - 08/29/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

D-Limonene is also active at the 5HT2A receptor, just as psychedelics are.  D-Limonene is a terpene which possesses the characteristic aroma of oranges, and is the main constituent of the essential oil of orange peels.  It exhibits antidepressant activity via mediation of the serotonin system.

One time I consumed about 1/3rd of a bottle of lemon extract (which is just lemon peel EO dissolved in alcohol) and I was in a distinctly great mood, but was a little disturbed by the wavy patterns in the background of my vision which were present for about 3 days.  I was just glad at the time I didn't have a job!  Probably isn't the most healthy thing to do.  But it was interesting to try nonetheless.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Achuma]
    #22162826 - 08/29/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I doubt it, I drink OJ a lot and I haven't felt anything from oranges or citrus fruits ever.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22162917 - 08/29/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah dude..

It's a crazy world we live in




Just read the thread: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20219592#20219592

I  remember this one from awhile back.

Looks like lemons has a higher amount thn oranges it seems.

No wonder lemon teks works so well! :lol:


But its only 0.1-0.2 Milligrams per KILOGRAM. Very low concentration.

I would have to eat like 500 Kilograms of oranges for one good DMT dosage.


i love oranges, but damn, thats way too much.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #22162931 - 08/29/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Word it's just an interesting fact.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: tripologist]
    #22162964 - 08/29/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well it definitely wasn't a DMT feeling, and idk how D-Limonene feels, but like i said, it felt Orangey and definitely was not placebo. It really stood out, it was very noticeable, and i was already back down from the Ayahuasca and was only feeling the remainder of the Rue (it was like 6 or 7 hours after taking the Ayahuasca that i took the C-Time 1000 with my other nightly meds). And like i said, i only experienced it the first time taking 2 tablets of the C-Time 1000, any time after that i didn't feel anything.

There's definitely psychoactivity there folks, without a doubt and no i'm not yanking y'alls chains, there's definitely psychoactivity. It makes me wonder what conditions must be right within the body/brain for the Oranges to become Psychoactive. And as i said the only other time i felt/experienced this psychoactivity was when i was a kid and can't remember if i had eaten an Orange or taken some sort of Orange bioflavonoids or what, but it was definitely something i've experienced twice now in my life.

If y'all don't experience anything psychoactive from Oranges or other Citrus fruits, don't dismiss it away because i assure you there was 100% definitely something there, but i think the conditions within the brain/body must be right for the psychoactivity to show itself.

In time i hope to try taking the C-Time 1000 about 6 to 7 hours after taking Ayahuasca or even just the Rue, or perhaps eating some Oranges or taking some Orange essential oil or something. Because quite honestly the Orangey feeling i experienced was pretty cool and literally felt as if i had eaten an Orange, it felt healthy.

It could perhaps be some sort of CYP liver enzyme inhibition responsible for it becoming psychoactive.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22162975 - 08/29/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

No doubt.

I wonder what other foods contain DMT :strokebeard:


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22163019 - 08/29/15 11:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

How much is c time 1000 paying you?


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Matt87]
    #22163106 - 08/30/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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How much is c time 1000 paying you?




Not sure, my mom got some from a friend and she gave me a bottle. But here's the link to the bottle that i have - http://www.amazon.com/Puritans-Pride-Vitamin-Release-60-Caplets/dp/B004R66HK0/ref=sr_1_2?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1440915062&sr=1-2&keywords=puritans+pride+c-time+1000

But i'm pretty sure one could get the same effect from an Orange or essential oil or Orange peel, etc. One just apparently has to find out what to do to activate the psychoactivity apparently.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Sabnock]
    #22163214 - 08/30/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe it was the maoi acting with the orange extract? Have you tried it since with a maoi?:shrug:


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Achillita]
    #22163251 - 08/30/15 01:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Maybe it was the maoi acting with the orange extract? Have you tried it since with a maoi?:shrug:




I've tried it while on Moclobemide, haven't noticed any psychoactivity. Haven't tried it with the Rue again though, but Rue does inhibit some liver enzymes that Moclobemide doesn't, and i'm sure it has other things it does besides MAO-A and CYP liver enzyme inhibition that could contribute to it's activeness.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Sabnock]
    #22163264 - 08/30/15 01:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well then, if you want to experiment, it's worth a shot :shrug: It could have been you noticing the slight effects that it has because of the ayahuasca still being in your system, and that "everything is new" feeling.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Achillita]
    #22164802 - 08/30/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Well then, if you want to experiment, it's worth a shot :shrug: It could have been you noticing the slight effects that it has because of the ayahuasca still being in your system, and that "everything is new" feeling.




Well there certainly wasn't anything slight about the Orangey effects i felt, it was definitely noticeable and definitely not placebo.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Sabnock]
    #22164848 - 08/30/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Dude I always get a high from fresh squeezed orange juice, and it's amplified if I smoke some marijuana afterwards. I thought I was the only one or was going crazy...


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Kinshino]
    #22164936 - 08/30/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Bitter orange contains the tyramine metabolites N-Methyltyramine, octopamine and synephrine


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: pineapple3]
    #22172633 - 09/01/15 06:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

im gonna make some orange juice jenkem tonight!


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Kinshino]
    #22173420 - 09/01/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Dude I always get a high from fresh squeezed orange juice, and it's amplified if I smoke some marijuana afterwards. I thought I was the only one or was going crazy...




Really? That's awesome. At least i'm not the only one who has gotten something from Oranges.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Sabnock]
    #22189678 - 09/04/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

orange juice for president!


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Sabnock]
    #22190932 - 09/04/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I heard about people in prison putting toothpaste on orange peels and letting it rot....then eating it. Or something along those lines. Now I must use the Google Machine.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: FryersQuest]
    #22190939 - 09/04/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If anything you'll get poisoned from mold growing on the peels...


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Achillita]
    #22190944 - 09/04/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

http://forum.grasscity.com/general/248378-orange-peel-acid-does-fact-work.html

Not saying these people are right....but this is what I kept hearing.....


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: FryersQuest]
    #22190973 - 09/04/15 11:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Probably just high from eating toxic chemicals in toothpaste.
There is no proof that ergot or any other psychoactive fungus
grows with this method.

It even says on the tube if a little bit is swallowed to
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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: natedawgnow]
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Wow just read that last grasscity post and the guy
is a straight up idiot. Says that flouride toothpaste
is more natural than mushrooms :facepalm:

Again, just getting high from consuming large amounts of toxic
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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22191038 - 09/05/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

OR probably from the toxic mold/bacteria that form from this...


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Achillita]
    #22191047 - 09/05/15 12:14 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I read that, it's a troll post... I'll put some quotes that he said throughout the thread.
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Works 100% and is kinda more natural(I use organic orange peels) than normal LSD and especially Shrooms.



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Because shroom are just pure poison, nothing more.



All the other posts are saying don't bash it if you don't try it, and there's no mold on it if you burn all the mold off and it leaves the LSD...


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Achillita]
    #22191060 - 09/05/15 12:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The most common fungus to grow on citrus fruit is penicillium
and yeast. Just sayin, it's most likely toxins mixed with
placebo. Name a mold that grows on oranges that has psychoactive
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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Sabnock]
    #22191590 - 09/05/15 07:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Did you fast for the ayahuasca? If so, then the reintroduction of sugar into the body can definitely give a headchanging boost while under the effects of the ayahusca. In fact I've heard of people not getting any effect from it until they eat something and then they suddenly blast off.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22192640 - 09/05/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Did you fast for the ayahuasca? If so, then the reintroduction of sugar into the body can definitely give a headchanging boost while under the effects of the ayahusca. In fact I've heard of people not getting any effect from it until they eat something and then they suddenly blast off.




Naw, sometimes i'll eat like 4 to 6 hours before Ayahuasca, or won't eat anything at all before taking it. And i usually am drinking on something sugary whether it's soda, powerade or tea, while on Ayahuasca.

The night this happened, i was pretty much back down from Ayahuasca, i was really only feeling the Rue's afterglow/residual effects (it was about 6 to 7 hours after taking the Rue and the Mimosa was already out of my system). So the only thing i can think of, is that perhaps Rue inhibited some CYP liver enzyme or did something else, that activated the Orange bioflavonoids' psychoactivity. I'm pretty sure it's not the MAO-A inhibition because i took Moclobemide and tried taking the C-Time 1000 pills and nadda. I am gonna get me some fresh Oranges though and perhaps try eating them after a good ol' Aya experience to see if i can get a similar effect.

I know for 100% certainty that what i experienced was not a placebo and there was indeed psychoactivity to the Orange bioflavonoids. I just wish we could figure it out.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Sabnock]
    #22194064 - 09/05/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Sometimes non-psychoactive compounds can bring a different vibe to a trip. I think that the environment and conditions surrounding a trip can be equally if not more influential on a psychedelic experience as compared to factors such as dosage. So while I wouldn't neccesarily attribute your experience to the orange's psychoactivity, I think it's great that it had a positive impact on your trip! The important thing is that your experience was beautiful, and sometimes there's no need to explain that beauty.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: elstevoloco]
    #22194678 - 09/05/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

A lot of stuff is active with an MAOI, such as syrian rue, that normally wouldnt be.


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    #22194685 - 09/05/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Syrian rue IS an maoi


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22194690 - 09/05/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Syrian rue IS an maoi



I know I said an MAOI such as syrian rue.


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    #22194699 - 09/05/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ah I see. The way you phrased it, it could be taken either way.:awehigh:


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22194855 - 09/05/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Oranges have DMT in them... I don't think anyone posted that.:shrug: Maybe that added onto your trip because of the MAOI.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22194883 - 09/05/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Oranges and other citrus fruits contain small amounts
of DMT.

Check this out



Actually achillita, i posted this on the 1st page.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: elstevoloco]
    #22194961 - 09/05/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Sometimes non-psychoactive compounds can bring a different vibe to a trip. I think that the environment and conditions surrounding a trip can be equally if not more influential on a psychedelic experience as compared to factors such as dosage. So while I wouldn't neccesarily attribute your experience to the orange's psychoactivity, I think it's great that it had a positive impact on your trip! The important thing is that your experience was beautiful, and sometimes there's no need to explain that beauty.




The thing is though, i was completely back down from Ayahuasca before i took the Orange bioflavonoid-containing pills. I know non-psychoactive compounds can synergize with Psychedelics, but i assure you this was not the case. The DMT was already out of my system, and the psychoactive feeling i felt was not like DMT. And, it was the exact same feeling i've felt at least once before when i was a kid after eating an Orange or something. There is most definitely some psychoactivity to the Orange bioflavonoids, make no mistake, it's there, i just don't know what conditions were right for it's psychoactivity to become active.

I've got some Oranges now so i may try taking some Rue by itself in the next few days and perhaps eat an Orange or two or take the pills again around the 7 to 8 hour mark, and see if anything becomes of it.

The psychoactive feeling i experienced, was most definitely from the Orange bioflavonoids.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22194976 - 09/05/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Oops, I knew someone posted it :lol:

Bt it could be that :shrug:


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Sabnock]
    #22195571 - 09/06/15 02:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Sometimes non-psychoactive compounds can bring a different vibe to a trip. I think that the environment and conditions surrounding a trip can be equally if not more influential on a psychedelic experience as compared to factors such as dosage. So while I wouldn't neccesarily attribute your experience to the orange's psychoactivity, I think it's great that it had a positive impact on your trip! The important thing is that your experience was beautiful, and sometimes there's no need to explain that beauty.




The thing is though, i was completely back down from Ayahuasca before i took the Orange bioflavonoid-containing pills. I know non-psychoactive compounds can synergize with Psychedelics, but i assure you this was not the case. The DMT was already out of my system, and the psychoactive feeling i felt was not like DMT. And, it was the exact same feeling i've felt at least once before when i was a kid after eating an Orange or something. There is most definitely some psychoactivity to the Orange bioflavonoids, make no mistake, it's there, i just don't know what conditions were right for it's psychoactivity to become active.

I've got some Oranges now so i may try taking some Rue by itself in the next few days and perhaps eat an Orange or two or take the pills again around the 7 to 8 hour mark, and see if anything becomes of it.

The psychoactive feeling i experienced, was most definitely from the Orange bioflavonoids.




Trust me drugs are in your system and active much longer than the high. Why do you think you're supposed to wait days when taking certain medications and other drugs in between dosing with an MAOI?


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: PurpleHaze147]
    #22196555 - 09/06/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The only RIMA/MAOI that stays in my system more than 8 hours or so would be Moclobemide which stays in my system for about 18 to 20 something hours depending on how consistent the dosing has been. Rue though is usually out of my system by the time i get ready for bed.

The Psychoactive effect i felt was definitely to do with the Orange bioflavonoids... remember, i also experienced it when i was a kid, and back then i wasn't taking any Psychdelics, didn't smoke Cannabis, i think i could've possibly been on Ritalin at the time but i'm not sure. But yeah, i definitely felt something from the Orange bioflavonoids, this was no residual DMT feeling or Harmala feeling, i've taken Ayahuasca quite a bit (well over 300 times) so i know quite a bit about it's effects and how long it lasts.

Hopefully i can take the Rue in the next few days and re-activate the bioflavonoids, if i can't, then i hope someone else can one day and will help prove this is coming from the Orange and not anything else.

I felt this same exact feeling when i was a kid after eating an Orange, so it's definitely not a coincidence and definitely not the result of the DMT.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Sabnock]
    #22196560 - 09/06/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think you were high


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22196709 - 09/06/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I think you were high




High from the Orange, not the Ayahuasca or Cannabis though. Trust me man, i know enough about Ayahuasca to know if it's influencing anything, i've been taking it regularly since 2012 (regularly means near daily). Besides that, how could i be high from Ayahuasca back when i was a kid? The Orangey feeling was exactly the same from when i was a kid, so it's definitely not the Huasca.

Besides that, DMT stays in the system for 3 to 4 hours depending on dose, the DMT had already come and gone, all that remained was part of an afterglow since i was reaching 7 to 8 hours after taking the Rue (which is when i usually go to bed).

Out of the hundreds of times i've taken Ayahuasca, and then taken things to help me sleep after coming down from Ayahuasca, it only happened this one time, the first time i took two C-Time 1000 pills. When i felt the psychoactivity, there was no mistaking what the psychoactivity was from, it was definitely from the Orange bioflavonoids. Believe me or not, i don't care, but this definitely happened and hopefully i can repeat the experiment and get it to happen again.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22197131 - 09/06/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Oranges and other citrus fruits contain small amounts
of DMT.

Check this out




Wait until they ban us to consume fruits. Then, Monsanto will strike back harder "Our GMO fruits do not contain DMT" and the Governments will force all to only eat Monsanto haha..

New Schedule 1 Drugs

- Fruits and Vegetables.

My post is not sarcastic though, very interesting topic.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: AkashicExplorer]
    #22197143 - 09/06/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Though the data have not been formally published, the same team of researchers reported that the juice from oranges and lemons contain DMT in a concentration of approximately 0.03–0.05 mg/kg (Servillo et al. 2012)

Probably not enough to induce any kind of activity.


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Re: Anyone ever get psychoactivity from Oranges? [Re: Sabnock]
    #22234014 - 09/13/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I believe you then. Only you know what you felt.


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