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OfflineFungusBoi
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coca seeds
    #2216131 - 01/03/04 03:28 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

so, SWIM has been looking into coca seeds lately, but hasn't been able to find much info. there seem to be three different kinds, erthroxylum cataractarum, erythroxylum coca, and erythroxylum novogratense. do they differ in potency at all? are all as highly illegal as i expect them to be to possess (i unfortunatly live in the USA)? what about the seeds?


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Re: coca seeds [Re: FungusBoi]
    #2216934 - 01/03/04 06:04 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Dont quote me on this but i believe all erythroxylum are illegal to grow in the states.......but this may be another one where the seeds may be pseudo-legal.......but if the seeds and berries contain even trace amounts of cocaine then you could run into problems with the seeds too......

Pretty sure having the plants is just like having a sack of coke.....jail is not fun  :crazy:

But if you manage to find some viable correctly IDed seed, and can get them to yourself in the states.....then who is going to be the wiser as to what those little bushes are growing in your yard :laugh:


edit it:  here this should clear it all up :  http://www.aros.net/~lambo/coca/coca.htm


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Re: coca seeds [Re: DazedSol]
    #2217037 - 01/03/04 07:18 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

While looking on that site I noticed a plant called Erythroxylum cumanense it says the roots contain Trimethoxybenzoyl esters. If you look at the pic it looks like a few steps away from synthetic mescaline. Depending on alkaloid percentage I'd say that may be a good precursor, but I'm no chemist so I dont know exactly how you'd modify that side chain.


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Re: coca seeds [Re: psychopsilocyber]
    #2217266 - 01/03/04 09:03 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I bet it could be done, probably through an SN2 mechanism using a charged C-C-N as a nucleophile which isn't too hard to produce.


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Re: coca seeds [Re: neuro]
    #2217445 - 01/03/04 10:50 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

plus even if it where legal the seeds are only viable for like 7 days i belive making it very hard to get.


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Re: coca seeds [Re: psychopsilocyber]
    #2217689 - 01/04/04 02:58 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Hey psychopsilocyber what do you know of the Australian Erythroxylum Shrub ? All the chemical names and things mean very little to me at th moment.
I was going to post this on the ethnobotany australia site but it seems to be down, whats with that ?
Im realy interested in in coca cultivation. for research purposes of course
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Re: coca seeds [Re: trev]
    #2218554 - 01/04/04 04:08 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I know basically nothing of australian taxa, there's really no reason for me to know these things, i'm from the states.


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Re: coca seeds [Re: trev]
    #2218570 - 01/04/04 04:16 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Pretty sure that the aussie coca bush is void of cocaine......definately check out the Shaman Australis site though for more info...


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Re: coca seeds [Re: DazedSol]
    #2220036 - 01/05/04 09:08 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Oh sorry I just thought from the link in you sig.


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Re: coca seeds [Re: FungusBoi]
    #2220131 - 01/05/04 09:42 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

The most potent of the coca plants is the Erythroxylon Coca AKA Huanuco leaf. Seeds are illegal to posses in the states and getting them is near impossible. I know for a fact you can get some from mexico but you got to speak the language and know the right people and where to ask.


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Re: coca seeds [Re: DatDaNK420]
    #2223444 - 01/06/04 04:31 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Isn't there a tribe in the high Andes who produce a powder by cooking it?They then take it a some form of snuff I believe.This hasn't been "chemically cracked" so isn't cocaine.
P.S guys re;Coca (my thread).The site link from www.agwabuzz.com (I'm not going to use that name too often here folks re;why I was talking to the MD in the first place) indicates that it IS available in the U.S, and I can assure you that it does contain active coca! :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:


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