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Dehumidified Mushrooms vs Fresh Mushrooms
    #22161092 - 08/29/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Greetings, psychonauts, fellow neurons and others.

I just wanted to know, according to your understandings, how do dried psilocybin :mushroom2: mushrooms vary from fresh :mushroom2: psilocybin mushrooms, and how many grams of each would one be required to take to receive the same or similar effects?


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Re: Dehumidified Mushrooms vs Fresh Mushrooms [Re: Cosmic Neuron]
    #22161273 - 08/29/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Dried are about 10% the mass (or slightly less even) of fresh, IME.


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Re: Dehumidified Mushrooms vs Fresh Mushrooms [Re: Hanz]
    #22163641 - 08/30/15 07:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

And that affects potency?


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Re: Dehumidified Mushrooms vs Fresh Mushrooms [Re: Cosmic Neuron]
    #22163676 - 08/30/15 07:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

There's a lot of arguments about what affects potency.

You can eat fresh shrooms, but its hard to store them fresh for long.  I air dry mine for a day, then freeze dry them.

Like Hanz said, dry shrooms are about 10% or less of the mass of fresh ones.  I'm bad at math so I can't tell you what amount of fresh you need.  I personally took 3g dry last night.


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Re: Dehumidified Mushrooms vs Fresh Mushrooms [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #22163908 - 08/30/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Dehumidified Mushrooms vs Fresh Mushrooms [Re: healing]
    #22164187 - 08/30/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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http://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator




That's a nice one!

Anyway, I like to dry them always. Fresh mushrooms start to dry out by themselves really quickly, at least IME. That means that already after one day it becomes hard to estimate the dose, since now they are partly dry, partly fresh, and you don't know by how much.

Once they're completely dry however, they tend to stay that way and, for me at least, it becomes easier to calculate the dose.

That's just how I like it though, nothing profound...

And about potency, I don't know, perhaps fresh shrooms have a different feel to them than dry ones, but to me no real difference in strength.

I used to buy them fresh when dried shrooms became illegal in Amsterdam. Those days are now over too though...


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Re: Dehumidified Mushrooms vs Fresh Mushrooms [Re: Hanz]
    #22165222 - 08/30/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Of course fresh mushrooms are more potent. They contain more psilocin which has not been broken down yet.


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Re: Dehumidified Mushrooms vs Fresh Mushrooms [Re: tripologist] * 1
    #22165342 - 08/30/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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ShroomerInTheRye said:
There's a lot of arguments about what affects potency.





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Of course fresh mushrooms are more potent. They contain more psilocin which has not been broken down yet.




Well, there's one.


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Re: Dehumidified Mushrooms vs Fresh Mushrooms [Re: tripologist]
    #22165505 - 08/30/15 04:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Alright, so 3 grams of fresh mushrooms would be more potent than 3 grams of dried ones?
I'm well aware that this is a stupid question, but I don't want to make any mistakes.


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Re: Dehumidified Mushrooms vs Fresh Mushrooms [Re: Cosmic Neuron] * 1
    #22165531 - 08/30/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm gonna say no only because fresh shrooms are 90% water.


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Re: Dehumidified Mushrooms vs Fresh Mushrooms [Re: Cosmic Neuron]
    #22165595 - 08/30/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Alright, so 3 grams of fresh mushrooms would be more potent than 3 grams of dried ones?
I'm well aware that this is a stupid question, but I don't want to make any mistakes.




What you meant to ask was, of course: Is 30 grams of fresh more potent than 3 grams of dried?

The answer to that is, some say no, some say yes. They are about the same, more or less.

See? Fresh is 90% water. Dried means to leave out the water :wink:

So 3 grams of fresh would be ... that's right, 10% of 3 grams, that is only 0.3 grams of dried, a micro dose.

The math is not so hard, but a factor 10 is something you want to be sure of when you dose... :rocket:

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Re: Dehumidified Mushrooms vs Fresh Mushrooms [Re: Hanz]
    #22165615 - 08/30/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Time to purchase a dehumidifier and kitchen scale then. :takingnotes:


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Re: Dehumidified Mushrooms vs Fresh Mushrooms [Re: Cosmic Neuron] * 1
    #22165639 - 08/30/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

A scale is really beneficial to have when dealing with shrooms.  Will this be your first time with them?


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Re: Dehumidified Mushrooms vs Fresh Mushrooms [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #22165666 - 08/30/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, it'll be my first time. I'm just disappointed that I'm going to have to buy a dehumidifier.


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Re: Dehumidified Mushrooms vs Fresh Mushrooms [Re: Cosmic Neuron] * 1
    #22165794 - 08/30/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I find fresh mushroooms to be the most "natural" feeling effects, while eating dried feels more like u ingested a substance.

The come up on fresh shrooms is ultra smooth, almost deceiving some trips. while the come up on dired is more obvious.

fresh is definitely a winner in my book.


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Re: Dehumidified Mushrooms vs Fresh Mushrooms [Re: Cosmic Neuron]
    #22165817 - 08/30/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Yes, it'll be my first time. I'm just disappointed that I'm going to have to buy a dehumidifier.




U can dry shrooms in many ways, my method is putting the shrooms under a black t shirt and pointing an incandescent bulb at the shrooms.

Dries in a day or two :thumbup:


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Re: Dehumidified Mushrooms vs Fresh Mushrooms [Re: Cosmic Neuron]
    #22165908 - 08/30/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I like to air dry them for a day, then finish them off by freeze drying them.  No dehydrator needed.  I like to store them in the freezer with one of those desiccant packets from my heartburn medicine.

You can also do the t-shirt method.  That works just fine.

Some people dry them in the oven on a low temp.  I never did that.  I think if you avoid extreme heat, you'll be okay.


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Re: Dehumidified Mushrooms vs Fresh Mushrooms [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #22167048 - 08/30/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Fresh mushrooms provide a more colourful trip for me.


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