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Re: I need help with PPM for some hormones [Re: psi]
    #22175626 - 09/01/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Could be. I wish I would have though of that when/before I divided mine....


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Re: I need help with PPM for some hormones [Re: psi]
    #22176986 - 09/02/15 04:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I got 5 g of 6-BAP a couple of years ago but never did anything with it. Somewhere here there is a thread about mixing it with lanolin to apply to cactus areoles. I was thinking Vaseline might work just as well. IIRC you need a basic pH to get it to dissolve in water, not sure how basic though.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10999321

Looks like the amount used there was 1.5% so close to the 2% mentioned here. My scale is in 0.01 g increments so I weighed out 4.90 g Vaseline and 0.10 g 6-BAP for a 2% mixture. Heated it over water that was boiled in the microwave but I'm still seeing some crystals after swirling it around for a while. Not sure if the Vaseline was a poor choice or what.





I would not recommend Vaseline. I went that route, and it has yet to do anything. this is over 2 months now, and more than one application per site, a total of 7 sites.

Get the lanolin, it can be found in the baby department, near the breast pumps.


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Re: I need help with PPM for some hormones [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #22177200 - 09/02/15 07:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's disappointing, thanks for the heads up. I would have figured that one greasy substance would be about as good as another since they're both non-polar, but it seems that the crystals were really resistant to dissolving.


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Re: I need help with PPM for some hormones [Re: psi]
    #22177204 - 09/02/15 07:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The areoles on my cacti that I treated kind of bulged up and blackened a bit. I thought they were going to rot. I had to watch them closely, and I still do. Since then I have not tried it again, since my season is coming to a close. I will have to try in the Spring.


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Re: I need help with PPM for some hormones [Re: kosmokratorshaman]
    #22206443 - 09/08/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The areoles on my cacti that I treated kind of bulged up and blackened a bit.




From pictures I've seen online, they do something similar to this when it does work.


I picked up some lanolin today, seemed super overpriced but I couldn't be bothered to shop around more. $10 for a 40 gram tube. Thinking to use it on that pachanoi I didn't put any of the vaseline mix on.



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Re: I need help with PPM for some hormones [Re: psi]
    #22208661 - 09/08/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The areoles on my cacti that I treated kind of bulged up and blackened a bit. I thought they were going to rot. I had to watch them closely, and I still do. Since then I have not tried it again, since my season is coming to a close. I will have to try in the Spring.




Becareful with the paste and do not apply too much, the lanolin is somewhat phytotoxic in my experience and burnt my bolivian pretty badly. If you apply too much to a forming pup it can cause it to stop growing as well. Personally i hate lanolin paste.

A slightly alkaline solution of NaOH in distilled water will dissolve the 6-BAP better and works very well if applied as a foilar feed at night. I wouldnt suggest going over 100ppm for the 6-BAP though as it almost works too well on chloroplast production. The solution can also be applied to areoles with a cotton swab but wait a few days to a week inbetween applications.

The dilution formula works good for measurement : C1V1 = C2V2

Here's a good read on hormones:

http://www.planthormones.info

It basically explains what seems to happen with these hormones, it is not definitive but only a theory.


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