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mushrooms make you gay*
#22159155 - 08/29/15 01:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not really, but sometimes they sure make you trip... So I was thinking...
Mushrooms seem to be some kind of universe communication device. (Right?) With that being said, we do seem to have an overpopulation on earth issue. Infesting the earth like locusts on a wheat field.
Earth communication; evolution; gayness; reduced breeding; less humans; re normalized earth (?)
Just a thought.
(What I took from tripping personally concerning the planet was to respect it)
But... depopulation homies
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Hehe thats one of my favorite pictures. I always wished I grew it... So thats penis envy envy
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Don't mean to come off as a dick, but I really hope most posts like this are just someone trolling.
I got a lot from shrooms, enlightenment, direction, etc.. But people constantly take this shit way too far. They start drawing a line from A to M without going through B, C, D, E, F etc. They start to make it out to be much more than it really is.
A lot of this is why drugs get a bad rap in the first place. A lot of it just comes across as total delusion. The Asante breakdown a couple months ago, is a very good example. I get how profound thought processes are on psychedelics, and even how it can be difficult to separate reality from personal beliefs.
For the most part, you're just tripping. You aren't stumbling across some revelation that is based in fact (who no one else has seemed to realize yet) and is going to change the world.
TL;DR pscyhedelics are VERY useful for looking into yourself and seeing things you never realized or wanted to accept as real, but when you cross over into applying it to the world/universe as a whole, you just sound insane.
Probably isn't going to be a popular opinion, but I don't really care. It's my opinion.
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what if over population is just a myth?.. and there's actually enough food and resources to go around for everyone.
we have an unlimited supply of everything if u really think about it. granted some of it takes billions of years to grow, like oil, which btw i dont think we are suppose to be burning off like fucken hippies burning weed at a reggae concert.
that shit is earth;s fuel, it is the blood of earth and we are sucking it out like fucken worthless ticks.
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Re: mushrooms make you gay* [Re: Shroomslip]
#22159184 - 08/29/15 02:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: Don't mean to come off as a dick, but I really hope most posts like this are just someone trolling.
I got a lot from shrooms, enlightenment, direction, etc.. But people constantly take this shit way too far. They start drawing a line from A to M without going through B, C, D, E, F etc. They start to make it out to be much more than it really is.
A lot of this is why drugs get a bad rap in the first place. A lot of it just comes across as total delusion. The Asante breakdown a couple months ago, is a very good example. I get how profound thought processes are on psychedelics, and even how it can be difficult to separate reality from personal beliefs.
For the most part, you're just tripping. You aren't stumbling across some revelation that is based in fact (who no one else has seemed to realize yet) and is going to change the world.
TL;DR pscyhedelics are VERY useful for looking into yourself and seeing things you never realized or wanted to accept as real, but when you cross over into applying it to the world/universe as a whole, you just sound insane.
Probably isn't going to be a popular opinion, but I don't really care. It's my opinion.
Yep I agree with this completely. Don't you dare say something like that on the psychedelic experience forum or other psychedelic forums. They will freak the fuck out.
Psychedelics are cool, but so are plenty of other drugs. What's even better then doing drugs is travelling, making friends, being loved and falling in love, doing what you love, having a family, ect.
If you want to improve yourself and learn about yourself and all that, just go to a therapist and in one session you will overcome way more then your average trip. Most people who trip are really delusional and suddenly think they are the smartest people ever and become know it alls. When they try to articulate what they learnt from their trip, I am rarely impressed and wonder why they needed drugs to come to that conclusion in the first place.
When you start glorifying drug use the way psychedelic users glorify their drugs, then you get to the point where anyone calling you out for it is some how ignorant and misinformed. I think gaining knowledge from doing drugs is honestly misguided. Read a book if you want to learn about the universe and different things.
Psychedelics are probably responsible for more delusions then actual useful knowledge. I think life experience is gained through trial in error, time, hard work, not taking a tab of LSD when you are sixteen on a Friday night and suddenly thinking you are enlightened. Your older self will look back and laugh thinking about how misinformed you once were.
I got really turned off by the psychedelic experience when people here started taking it way too seriously. Like commmon, the experience is unique but you are hallucinating and having delusional thoughts. Get over it.
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I've also met plenty of hippies that claim they are "open minded" from tripping, but they are only open minded when you conform to their specific ideals.
If you bring into question certain things that I just brought up those discussions are completely off the table and dismissed. The psychedelic experience is taken so damn seriously that it ruins so many aspects of it to me.
I love tripping for many reasons. I think the thoughts are awesome, it truly does hit those areas in the brain that produce awe and wonder and makes everything feel significant and you connect things that aren't always even there. I obviously started tripping initially for the colors, the patterns, ect and just for the mind fuck. But some people go way too far with it, get way too wrapped up in everything and go down the rabbit hole and some never fully recover. Tripping does produce delusions, that is part of it, and most people have a really tough time separating delusion from useful knowledge. That is where the problem begins.
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Having spent most of my life in psychiatry and psychology (as a patient, not a practitioner) I can say psychedelics do have a very good use. You can have someone analyze everything about you, and explain everything to you, and a lot of times they might as well be talking to a brick wall. Shrooms in particularly have a tendency to become a wrecking ball. I never went into a trip seeking to gain any knowledge, instead, I was slammed with it. I was forced to face a lot of things I had decided to ignore or simply couldn't understand. They are most definitely a very useful tool for inward reflection and study.
But as far as I'm concerned, that's about the line. When people start talking about cosmic truths and hidden knowledge they gained about the universe, or how the shrooms themselves have a consciousness that taught them things that very few people were taught, I start to call bullshit. That's just the effects of you getting very high and starting to believe in delusions.
We're kinda split half and half here on opinion. I think people should glorify it to the extent it is. But I feel they glorify the wrong things. What should be glorified is what I covered in the first paragraph. If everyone used psychedelics and actually reflected on themselves, the world would be a way better place. When you start dipping into the insane theories you now know as fact or act as if the psychedelic actually has a mind of it's own and is all interconnected and actively trying to spread that message (and in some cases even who expands that message to) you start to sound a bit nuts.
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those hippies just havent developed fully yet, it takes time, others get it sooner than others, and so on.
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Re: mushrooms make you gay* [Re: Shroomslip] 1
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Psychedelics are useful looking inwards into yourself for sure. But becoming a know it all about the universe and DMT aliens is when it gets a little preachy lol
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Bitter Cactus said: Psychedelics are useful looking inwards into yourself for sure. But becoming a know it all about the universe and DMT aliens is when it gets a little preachy lol
That we can agree on.
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Re: mushrooms make you gay* [Re: Shroomslip]
#22159209 - 08/29/15 02:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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And honestly I am just gonna throw this out there but for me I actually got a lot more useful inwards realizations from MDMA over a psychedelic trip.
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Bitter Cactus said: Psychedelics are useful looking inwards into yourself for sure. But becoming a know it all about the universe and DMT aliens is when it gets a little preachy lol
as ive said, it;s just a stage. even talking about "yea they;re preachy, dmt alies, and what not," is also a stage. u;re in a stage urself and dont realize it.
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Re: mushrooms make you gay* [Re: zZZz]
#22159213 - 08/29/15 02:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psychedelic revelations written down almost sound like the rambles of a schizophrenic sometimes.
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I've never had MDMA so I can't really offer an opinion on which is better. The only thing I know is shrooms drastically changed me as a person (for the better). I used them longer than one night, but in the figure of speech, my personality, values and thought process pretty much changed over night due entirely to their use. I learned a lot about myself I could never understand, and I was forced to deal with some shit that I just refused to beforehand.
They were also permanent (so far). I've haven't used any psychedelic in a very long time, and the changes I got, are still there.
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Re: mushrooms make you gay* [Re: Shroomslip]
#22159245 - 08/29/15 03:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Trolling? Um... not at all.
Mycelium is a vast communication network so it's just something I fathom possible... An open mind is open to all possibilities
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Thats funny i was having homoerotic thoughts then i refreshed the pub and walaa! here were are
And i like mushrooms
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Oeric McKenna said: Trolling? Um... not at all.
Mycelium is a vast communication network so it's just something I fathom possible... An open mind is open to all possibilities
It is a vast communication network (though vast is really just relative/interpretation) but it is no where near what people play it up to be. People act like it's the internet or something, where virtually all knowledge on every subject is stored.
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Oeric McKenna said: Hehe thats one of my favorite pictures. I always wished I grew it... So thats penis envy envy
You wished you grew it.. yup that's penis envy allright
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