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InvisibleBurke Dennings
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Re: Am I the only guy here without an account at the growery? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #22162738 - 08/29/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Of course I would have.  I had no inside knowledge of any kind of shady dealings, though.

I knew he was a bad choice because he wasn't knowledgeable in an "ODD capacity".  He wasn't intelligent, he wasn't helpful.  He was present, I'll give him that, in terms of posting in wca every day.  But even I was aware of his extensive disciplinary record.  I knew he hadn't reconciled it, and so did Tim because he edited a post legend made 3 weeks before becoming a mod wherein he called one of our female posters a "ratchet ass nigger hoe".  So anyone could see he didnt have any kind of understanding or respect for forum rules, operations, or decorum.

Look, you can call it what you want, but the truth is that you and Tim (and Asante and Andy) pushed him through based on nothing more than a need for a moderator in a short time period (which made for no vetting), and a heap of friendly feels.  Aka you just picked someone you liked, without true merit.  And that's fine; it's forum politics as they presently and always have existed.  But to act like there's anything more to it than that says that you either are fooling yourself or that you think I'm too dim to see it for what it was. 

Whatever, though.  It's done and is largely a moot point.  I can only hope that you and the other staffers walk away with a lesson on what happens when someone is made mod just solely based on social popularity, rather than general competency.  Being here and being liked is just not enough.


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Re: Am I the only guy here without an account at the growery? [Re: rackem]
    #22162747 - 08/29/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hell yeah, we love the Shroomery and we feel like it's a personal insult having con artists and the like in the same e-space as us.

I'd be interested to hear what he says as well.  I'd especially like to see him take the last step and stop making excuses for his actions, but I know that almost all of the people who are willing to go there and talk to him are unable to discuss it rationally, and that the entire mission would just completely blow up into a giant Shroomery/Growery orgy of hate within 15 posts.  That's not very Shroomy or Stonery so it's probably just best left alone.


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Re: Am I the only guy here without an account at the growery? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #22162758 - 08/29/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Who the fuck are you guys talking about? :lol:


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Re: Am I the only guy here without an account at the growery? [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #22162776 - 08/29/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Wow.  I had no idea he had said anything like that.  I definitely never knew that Tim was deleting evidence either.  I remember checking his BOM before he became mod too..  Maybe I missed that one I don't know.

I'm not very knowledgeable in an 'ODD capacity' compared to Ped or Tim, or even DB either.  He had the basic knowledge necessary to not give deadly advice to someone, which is basically all I have.

You make good points, though.  I honestly thought he was a good candidate but I suppose it is my fault for not vetting him better myself.  And with that being my first ever election for a new mod, I definitely learned a very valuable lesson.  The three we have picked since Legend have been stellar in my opinion.

I don't know if you know this, but a few of us discussed promoting you before Legend was ultimately picked.


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Re: Am I the only guy here without an account at the growery? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #22162782 - 08/29/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Wait ratchet ass hoe is perfectly fine with my understanding of the 5 years I've been here. But nigger is not? Im just trying to clarify what i can and cannot do. Theyre is much more depraved shit said around here. Its just when a mod gets a hair up their ass.


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"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"


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Re: Am I the only guy here without an account at the growery? [Re: Midnight_Toker] * 1
    #22162787 - 08/29/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

burke dennings as mod? :curbyourenthusiasm:


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Re: Am I the only guy here without an account at the growery? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #22162794 - 08/29/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Nigger meant as a true insult is a huge no-go here.  Ratchet ass hoe meant as a personal insult by itself is a no-go in my books too.


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Re: Am I the only guy here without an account at the growery? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #22162809 - 08/29/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes of course. Totally understandable. the meanings of words change over time. I know many people of all shades that are just being niggers.

But i really dont say it. I do say nigga a lot. I like that word it rolls off the tongue.

So basically just dont insult people here. We all kinda do but keep it civil.

And sometimes a bitch be bein a rarchet ass hoe. :lol:


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"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"


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Re: Am I the only guy here without an account at the growery? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #22162812 - 08/29/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

it depends who says it too


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Re: Am I the only guy here without an account at the growery? [Re: Midnight_Toker] * 1
    #22162819 - 08/29/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't like stoner forums.

I was part of Grasscity for a few months and all of them were snobs and dickheads about other drugs. I posted a thread on there about my first DMT experience and they deleted my thread and infracted me for talking about "unmentionables". Any drug that isn't cannabis is referred to as an unmentionable and it's retarded as fuck.

I also am not too big a fan of people who are exclusively stoners. People who only smoke weed kind of get on my nerves. They act like snobs to other drugs and think all over drugs are the devil and that weed is the only drug that is worth doing


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Re: Am I the only guy here without an account at the growery? [Re: zZZz]
    #22162820 - 08/29/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's how little choice we had at the time:lolsy:

But in all seriousness, Burke's a pretty solid guy, and he is who he is no matter who he's speaking to.  That's a good quality and he's got some other really good qualities too.  I'd make the argument that, if he were a mod, he wouldn't abuse his power.

He's too much of a dick though.

























and we already have pris for that


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Re: Am I the only guy here without an account at the growery? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #22162822 - 08/29/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Re:his excuses and not owning up to it.. Here is our growery ratings conversation.. (done before your posts here, Toker)

The copy/paste probably won't translate well, but you can make out the gist I hope... My edit was a hyperlink to the DZ thread.

My rating, edit, and then his reply.


You'll reply saying I don't know the info or whatever, but the fact remains, this member set up trades on the Shroomery and burned people out of their money. I'm surprised he's actually allowed here.
I'll gladly delete this once he owns up to the debt and repays it, but until then :nonono:

Edit.. Here.. Plenty of admission of deals not followed thru with. You speaking by proxy thru DZ

Just something on the 1st page, made by your friend who made the thread trying to get you back.
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He scammed a few people



I don't care if it's one person and one dollar you still haven't compensated... If there's still money owed at all, you deserve to be called a scammer.. Something tells me it's more than one dollar though.
Feel free to explain yourself here

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iStoner responded on 08/29/15 05:58 PM:

Who and what do I owe? If you know everything. I know everything, you don't
I owe no one money. Someone elese made jt into a drug ordeal.

Dz told me nvm and that its all good
Sal didn't like that PayPal wouldn't except payment
Ex I hooked him up in many ways
I offered small legal shit off site .

I fucked up so what

I didn't abuse modship or do anything anyone else doesn't do

I no longer do but fuck off when you read a a thread for info
Its nothing but rumours and shit

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InvisibleBurke Dennings
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Re: Am I the only guy here without an account at the growery? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #22162878 - 08/29/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I appreciate the consideration, that's really thoughtful of you.  Naturally, it would have been vetoed by the administration; asante's ego would never allow it, and I think we all know what I did to Andy. :lol:  But thanks man.

There's a learning curve on being a mod, no doubt, and I'm glad everyone copped a bit of a lesson from legend.  I guess something good came of it after all.  I know you didn't have anything but good intentions with the nomination, and naturally you can't see everything.  In some ways, I'm at an advantage for perspective because of my "user" status. 

Also, I know he's not around any more, but if I made it seem like Tim was covering up for legend, rug sweeping his actions, I will say that that is absolutely NOT the case.  He made a mistake or two, sure, but when it really mattered, when people started coming forth with the evidence of what legend was doing, tymo did handle it appropriately.  As did midnight_toker.  Only one of the ODD mods took up for legend, and it definitely wasn't them.  So that's not what I'm trying to say; I only mean to say that beneficial mod promotions are important to site and that they are not always handled well.  Usually, but not always.


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Re: Am I the only guy here without an account at the growery? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #22162887 - 08/29/15 10:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:

This town definitely ain't big enough for both me n pris.  Thanks for the kind words though.


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Re: Am I the only guy here without an account at the growery? [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #22162901 - 08/29/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Do mods get paid? Fuck all that noise if not.:rofl:


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"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"


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Re: Am I the only guy here without an account at the growery? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #22162929 - 08/29/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Only the admins get a very modest wage.

Heh, I just looked up the thread in the Mod forum and it actually wasn't me OR Tim who first made the case for Legend.  I thought it was me.


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Re: Am I the only guy here without an account at the growery? [Re: zZZz]
    #22162942 - 08/29/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

zZZz said:
it depends who says it too



No it doesn't. The only people who believe this are the ones who want to use it as a method to pick and choose who is racist or isn't. If it's a racist term, it's a racist term regardless of who says it. It's only accepted that certain people can say it with immunity. No one ever argues that the context in which it was used was racist. It's always "that's a racist, derogatory term".

I have an issue with double standards and inconsistency. They're one of my pet peeves.


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Re: Am I the only guy here without an account at the growery? [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #22162961 - 08/29/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Burke Dennings said:
tymo did handle it appropriately.  As did midnight_toker.  Only one of the ODD mods took up for legend, and it definitely wasn't them.



This isn't entirely true and is unfair to the mod you're speaking of.  Tim and I were at fault too, and in fact if I remember correctly, we sorta dragged him into it instead of the other way 'round.  But I'm going to bed and don't feel like typing another huge post. 

I would like read what it is you did to Andy though, as I have no idea.  This thread is off-topic enough that I feel you should explain and give me my morning dose of drama:hehehe:.


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Re: Am I the only guy here without an account at the growery? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22162971 - 08/29/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ya some of my best friends are black. I got me some of that immunity.

I pick up on the way people speak really fast. If i hang out with you long enough I'm going to pick up on your quips and sayings really fast.

I think most people don't give a single fuck anymore. I don't care about color or religion sexual preference.

Who cares?


As long as your a decent human being that can make me laugh so be it. I don't judge on such things only character.


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"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"


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Re: Am I the only guy here without an account at the growery? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
    #22162989 - 08/29/15 11:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Oh man.  I spent a huge chunk of my posts brutalizing him over various subjects: his shoe fetish, his stalking and victimization of women, his complete lack of awareness of social cues, his ability to be "bought", and what I perceived to be his all-around faggotry.  Towards the end there, or even towards the middle, I had made myself a gigantic thorn in his side.  I just grew to really dislike Andy, and abused him thusly.  Probably he is the closest I've ever come to feeling "hate" towards someone online.  I don't and never did actually hate Andy, but he definitely stirred a response in me that bordered on emotional, haha.  Kudos to him on that, I guess.


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