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Casing layers
    #22157575 - 08/28/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What is the proper way to apply a casing layer?

Also, how long does everyone usually wait to apply their casing layers? 

All of the cubes I have grown in the past have not been cased.  Am about to try a PE strain with my next tubs and have heard that a casing layer can help a lot with these.


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Re: Casing layers [Re: JP5082]
    #22157603 - 08/28/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Personal preference. But level and even

Personal preference

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Re: Casing layers [Re: bodhisatta]
    #22157716 - 08/28/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Case your PE.


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Re: Casing layers [Re: taGyo]
    #22157753 - 08/28/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Casing helps "tame" those mutant blobs PE's known to throw out.

That being said..
I also recommended casing.


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Re: Casing layers [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #22157781 - 08/28/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Case at 100 percent. Then you can either wait till
about 30 percent colonization and open the tub up
for fruiting.

Or you can case it at 100 percent and throw directly into
fruiting.

Or you can wait till you see knots and pins, late case
and then fruit. Like bodhi said, it's personal preference.

Always lay it nice and even and i usually do 1/4 to 1/2"
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Re: Casing layers [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22157791 - 08/28/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:lolwut:

Dont late case!
Case at 100%, and fruit immediately.


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Re: Casing layers [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #22157801 - 08/28/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I was just listing his options followed by an
"It's personal preference."

Late casing works if done right so why not?
He/she can do whatever they like,
I'm just laying out the options like they wanted.

Everyone else just commented on how you should definitely
case PE, which OP obviously already knew.


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Re: Casing layers [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22157823 - 08/28/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Fair enough,

When you say "late-case".. are you referring to consolidating till pins, then casing? Or late-casing after its already been introduced to fruiting conditions?


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Re: Casing layers [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #22157835 - 08/28/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Consolidating until you see pins will take a while, I'd never do that unless I was super busy but I heard it explodes and pushes out a shit ton in the first flush but not so much on consecutive flushes.

Both methods will work though :shrug:, I'd opt for fruiting immediately or adding a thin layer once primordia start forming but at that point the mushrooms are already telling you if they do or don't like the environment to an extent so why not just add it at fruiting?


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Re: Casing layers [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #22157839 - 08/28/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Consolidating till pins, case, then open up for fruiting.

It should be stated that fahtster meant his late case tek
to be followed along with his layering method, but
it still works well either way :shrug:


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Re: Casing layers [Re: taGyo]
    #22157845 - 08/28/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

taGyo said:
Consolidating until you see pins will take a while, I'd never do that unless I was super busy but I heard it explodes and pushes out a shit ton in the first flush but not so much on consecutive flushes.

Both methods will work though :shrug:, I'd opt for fruiting immediately or adding a thin layer once primordia start forming but at that point the mushrooms are already telling you if they do or don't like the environment to an extent so why not just add it at fruiting?




You never want to case after fruiting because you
end up locking contams to the surface of the sub
where they now have a perfect environment to flourish


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Re: Casing layers [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22157857 - 08/28/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yupp. :thumbup:


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Re: Casing layers [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #22157864 - 08/28/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Casings are meant to be used as a micro-climate on the surface of a substrate, along side FAE to initiate fruiting/pinning.
Casing after pins have form sort of defeats the purpose...


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Re: Casing layers [Re: taGyo]
    #22157869 - 08/28/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That's what I said :shrug:
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taGyo said:
I'd opt for fruiting immediately or adding a thin layer once primordia start forming but at that point the mushrooms are already telling you if they do or don't like the environment to an extent so why not just add it at fruiting?



I thought you were suggesting that as a method.


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Re: Casing layers [Re: taGyo]
    #22157894 - 08/28/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Casing layers [Re: natedawgnow]
    #22157906 - 08/28/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I'm pretty cool with Faht,

OP the main thing here is there are several different ways to skin a cat. Honestly, start with Coir/Verm and case and fruit immediately. Then work with peat and jiffy and all that other stuff that needs 30% and see what you like.

Cubes grow themselves, we're just here to move them from point A to point B to point C while fluffing their pillows every now and then :shrug:


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Re: Casing layers [Re: taGyo]
    #22157962 - 08/28/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Lol dont forget to tuck them in, mine get angry when I forget. I was also thinking about casing my tub thats just about ready, never tried it so id like to check it out to see if its something id want to continue doing. How would staight verm work? And would pastuerizing be a waste of time since is just verm?


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Re: Casing layers [Re: smokythebear]
    #22157969 - 08/28/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'd just sprinkle verm out of the bag :thumbup:

If you have left over coir/verm/gyp it works better.


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Re: Casing layers [Re: taGyo]
    #22157979 - 08/28/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You should still pasteurize/cook your Vermiculite..

Better yet, "bake" in an oven..

Using verm straight out the bag is death..


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Re: Casing layers [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #22157986 - 08/28/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Paranoia :shrug:, it's a mineral and doesn't naturally harbor any contam.


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