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E is better than Molly
#22157118 - 08/28/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Plain and simple
Dutch presses are 10x stronger, cleaner, and better then any crystal MDMA marketed as Molly that I have ever tried. I feel like only uneducated people who don't know their shit still say shit like "Oh Molly is pure and Ecstasy is not even MDMA and if it is it's usually cut".
Ecstasy made a come back and it's better then most Molly being sold
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: Janky Tits]
#22157123 - 08/28/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i agree. i enjoy tabs more than shards.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: Janky Tits]
#22157125 - 08/28/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Xplicit RelapzZ said: Plain and simple
Dutch presses are 10x stronger, cleaner, and better then any crystal MDMA marketed as Molly that I have ever tried. I feel like only uneducated people who don't know their shit still say shit like "Oh Molly is pure and Ecstasy is not even MDMA and if it is it's usually cut".
Ecstasy made a come back and it's better then most Molly being sold
In my area, naw. Pressies are cut garbage
And so is the molly. No matter how good my connects are, I can't find quality pills. Quality molly is a possiblity
That being said, some of the E off darknet is better than any molly I have ever taken. Some of them were like 220mg a piece or something. Ridiculous
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Not to mention that pills are neat and bitches are like "Awwww that pill is so cute, it has a little Snapchat ghost on it " when I hand then a pill.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: topdog82]
#22157133 - 08/28/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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topdog82 said:
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Xplicit RelapzZ said: Plain and simple
Dutch presses are 10x stronger, cleaner, and better then any crystal MDMA marketed as Molly that I have ever tried. I feel like only uneducated people who don't know their shit still say shit like "Oh Molly is pure and Ecstasy is not even MDMA and if it is it's usually cut".
Ecstasy made a come back and it's better then most Molly being sold
In my area, naw. Pressies are cut garbage
And so is the molly. No matter how good my connects are, I can't find quality pills. Quality molly is a possiblity
That being said, some of the E off darknet is better than any molly I have ever taken. Some of them were like 220mg a piece or something. Ridiculous
Yeah man don't trust American shit. I only do Euros because their drugs are 10x better then American shit
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: Janky Tits]
#22157153 - 08/28/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Xplicit RelapzZ said:
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topdog82 said:
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Xplicit RelapzZ said: Plain and simple
Dutch presses are 10x stronger, cleaner, and better then any crystal MDMA marketed as Molly that I have ever tried. I feel like only uneducated people who don't know their shit still say shit like "Oh Molly is pure and Ecstasy is not even MDMA and if it is it's usually cut".
Ecstasy made a come back and it's better then most Molly being sold
In my area, naw. Pressies are cut garbage
And so is the molly. No matter how good my connects are, I can't find quality pills. Quality molly is a possiblity
That being said, some of the E off darknet is better than any molly I have ever taken. Some of them were like 220mg a piece or something. Ridiculous
Yeah man don't trust American shit. I only do Euros because their drugs are 10x better then American shit
To be clear, I agree with your original post. So I understand it, molly and E pressies are treated in Europe the same way californians treat weed. They take it quite seriously
But I just want to say, some of us aren't as fortunate. I live in cali, and the pressies like I said earlier, are just garbage
Also; would you say the recent pressies have been the only noteworthy ones? Or have pressies always been good in europe?
I assume the with the comeback of molly as well as the darknet, E dealers are pressed to push stronger stuff?
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: Janky Tits]
#22157173 - 08/28/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's hit and miss but after many years in Socal now we get all our pressies and molly from either San fran or straight from the netherlands. We test everything so not much fake shit gets past us anymore.I don't think it's made a "comeback", They have always been popular. Molly just became popular for a while because of miley cyrus and shit. For a long time I got cut shit,fake shit and both when buying molly. Pressies are just more identifiable and often more mdma in them then say a .2 of a little molly and caffeine. Just always test Long live pressies
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"Molly" is just a bullshit concept that makes it easier to rip-off rave kiddies.
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E is better then molly. I have done some MDMA powder that was so weak and lame.
A good e pill could have anything from meth, to ketamine, to heroin in it. It makes for a great treat especially when there is a little meth in there cause it really compliments the effects.
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Ironically, molly is probably easier to cut that pressies. I figure pressies can be known by name, and tested pretty quickly. And then uploaded the test results to the internet etc.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: Janky Tits]
#22157195 - 08/28/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It just depends. I think enough people are selling junk as "molly" that maybe a lot of pressies are better. But some good pure molly can't be beat IMO.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: topdog82]
#22157197 - 08/28/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I like pressies because they look cool and I appreciate the work it takes to make a cute little pill with a logo on it. Obviously the person making it took the time to do that and I like that. Sort of like branding. Also, the powder is sometimes cut to shit and super weak and you have to take a lot.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: topdog82]
#22157203 - 08/28/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Since the Netherlands is kind of the birthplace of the EDM culture and since EDM is really big and the whole MDMA craze has always kind of been big over there I think it's safe to say that the pill quality had always been higher in Europe and more specifically the Netherlands. MDMA kind of only became a popular thing to do again only recently in America when it started to be marked as Molly. I actually hate the term Molly, it's the term that shows how MDMA went from being rave and electronic music oriented to becoming a drug that ghetto thugs sell because hip hop culture made it theirs now, it's also a stupid ass name that that shitty rapper Trinidad James made popular for a bunch of dipshits.
I almost only exclusively do presses but I have only done the presses that are coming from a certain pressery. I only have done the presses from the Yellow Snapchat and Orange Tesla guys and basically no one else. However I only hear good things from all the other presses like Red UPS, Blue Instagrams, WBs, etc. Euros are always top notch and I think it's always kind of been that way, I do however think the recent Euros have been upgraded into high powered bombs that contain 220mg each. A lot of people can't handle one Snapchat or Tesla so the quality and strength has certainly increased
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: Janky Tits]
#22157206 - 08/28/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm from Canada bro. We are the top producers brotha.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: Janky Tits]
#22157212 - 08/28/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Xplicit RelapzZ said: Since the Netherlands is kind of the birthplace of the EDM culture and since EDM is really big and the whole MDMA craze has always kind of been big over there I think it's safe to say that the pill quality had always been higher in Europe and more specifically the Netherlands. MDMA kind of only became a popular thing to do again only recently in America when it started to be marked as Molly. I actually hate the term Molly, it's the term that shows how MDMA went from being rave and electronic music oriented to becoming a drug that ghetto thugs sell because hip hop culture made it theirs now, it's also a stupid ass name that that shitty rapper Trinidad James made popular for a bunch of dipshits.
I almost only exclusively do presses but I have only done the presses that are coming from a certain pressery. I only have done the presses from the Yellow Snapchat and Orange Tesla guys and basically no one else. However I only hear good things from all the other presses like Red UPS, Blue Instagrams, WBs, etc. Euros are always top notch and I think it's always kind of been that way, I do however think the recent Euros have been upgraded into high powered bombs that contain 220mg each. A lot of people can't handle one Snapchat or Tesla so the quality and strength has certainly increased
The kind of rolls at 220mg prove my point. I feel the drug scene in cali in general is pretty low end. Who knows 
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Bitter Cactus said: I like pressies because they look cool and I appreciate the work it takes to make a cute little pill with a logo on it. Obviously the person making it took the time to do that and I like that. Sort of like branding. Also, the powder is sometimes cut to shit and super weak and you have to take a lot.
I do like the brands but the MAIN thing is higher mdma dose and it's less likely to be extremely cut and if you get the right pills it's always mdma,sometimes mda and mdma which I like more then pure mdma.
Yeah I'm pretty sure Canada doesn't beat Netherlands in production BC.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: Janky Tits]
#22157224 - 08/28/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why do you think the Netherlands is the "birthplace of edm culture"?
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Burke Dennings said: Why do you think the Netherlands is the "birthplace of edm culture"?
I don't know...Europe or whatever. I know is that it's been big for over a decade. That shit only became popular recently here. Electronic music has been big in Europe for forever, it probably started over there.
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at this point I am considering getting 5-MAPB or 5-APB. I have little to no access to darknet atm and I am itching to roll just looking at this thread
Do you guys think its worth it?
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nicechrisman said: It just depends. I think enough people are selling junk as "molly" that maybe a lot of pressies are better. But some good pure molly can't be beat IMO.
That's my problem with "Molly". I've seen everything from shake to cut bein' pushed as Molly.
Real MDMA is a dandy little chemical when it comes around.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: Janky Tits] 3
#22157258 - 08/28/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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What a stupid thread - if you're taking pure mdma you're taking pure mdma and it doesn't matter what form.
If there are other things in your roll then if you combine those drugs pure then it'll be the same.
Ya buffoons.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: Janky Tits]
#22157268 - 08/28/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You really need to educate yourself. Electronic music was primarily created by Americans. Why do you think House Music is called "house"? Because it came from The Warehouse, in Chicago. Early techno started in Detroit. Most of the big genres started here. I don't have any idea why you think it all began in holland.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: twighead]
#22157276 - 08/28/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I haven't seen a single roll with MDMA in it in my area. But I can consistently get uncut shards of MDMA/MDA the size of grapes with very little trouble.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: Janky Tits] 2
#22157284 - 08/28/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Xplicit RelapzZ said: Since the Netherlands is kind of the birthplace of the EDM culture and since EDM is really big and the whole MDMA craze has always kind of been big over there I think it's safe to say that the pill quality had always been higher in Europe and more specifically the Netherlands. MDMA kind of only became a popular thing to do again only recently in America when it started to be marked as Molly. I actually hate the term Molly, it's the term that shows how MDMA went from being rave and electronic music oriented to becoming a drug that ghetto thugs sell because hip hop culture made it theirs now, it's also a stupid ass name that that shitty rapper Trinidad James made popular for a bunch of dipshits.
I almost only exclusively do presses but I have only done the presses that are coming from a certain pressery. I only have done the presses from the Yellow Snapchat and Orange Tesla guys and basically no one else. However I only hear good things from all the other presses like Red UPS, Blue Instagrams, WBs, etc. Euros are always top notch and I think it's always kind of been that way, I do however think the recent Euros have been upgraded into high powered bombs that contain 220mg each. A lot of people can't handle one Snapchat or Tesla so the quality and strength has certainly increased
So much misinformation, please have some prior knowledge before attempting to talk out of your ass.
Alexander Shulgin had the same complaint about people calling MDMA ecstacy, it's branding that doesn't encourage informed decision making.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: Janky Tits]
#22157304 - 08/28/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd rather not have presses. I'd end up crushing it up anyway.
There really is no difference when it comes to pills or straight molly if you're talking about just mdma.. Really if your mdma is shitty then just clean it up, I almost guarantee anyone buying legit rolls is paying more for the convenience. Just because a single pill has a good dose that doesn't mean it's special. It's just a dose. And saying that a lot of people can't handle those doses is not a good thing, in fact it's dangerous. It is simply safer and cheaper to not buy pills, imo.
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So much misinformation
I assume you only recently discovered MDMA and electronic music because you are young OP "Molly" has been a term for a long time because it is the MDMA molecule.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: DustBunny]
#22157332 - 08/28/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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He did just get out of high school.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: DustBunny]
#22157341 - 08/28/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So much misinformation
I assume you only recently discovered MDMA and electronic music because you are young OP "Molly" has been a term for a long time because it is the MDMA molecule.
It's been about 2 years maybe
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: Janky Tits]
#22157434 - 08/28/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It doesn't matter what slang or street name it's given or if it is pressed into a pill or not, MDMA is MDMA as far as I'm concerned .
There's good pressed pills out there....there's lots of garbage pressed pills out there.
There's good crystal mdma out there...there's lots of white crystal/powder RCs passed off as mdma out there.
When talking about it or asking someone if they have it at a festival/etc...I refer to it as and ask for mdma, not "E" or "thizz" or "molly". I don't care if it comes in a pressed pill or chunks of crystal, as long as it's legitimately mdma .
Speaking of which....I ate some for the first time in a looong while a couple weeks ago . .
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: openmind]
#22157490 - 08/28/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The last truly epic pressie I had was an orange omega, it had brown flakes in it, and was super visual. Someone said the brown flakes were mescaline, but I will never know, all I know is I was rollin and trippin balls, was awesome.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: Janky Tits]
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So much misinformation
I assume you only recently discovered MDMA and electronic music because you are young OP "Molly" has been a term for a long time because it is the MDMA molecule.
It's been about 2 years maybe
Dude, we were calling it molly back in the late 90s
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: koods]
#22157503 - 08/28/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah, I was calling it molly back in 99-00, that's when I was getting tons of beautiful shards of it.
2/10th and I couldn't see straight, butterfly vision like a mofo.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: koods]
#22157556 - 08/28/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hopefully he meant two years since he discovered MDMA and electronic music Pretty sure there's "Molly" submissions from the late 90's on EcstasyData.org too.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: DustBunny]
#22157579 - 08/28/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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To be fair trinidad james was the first person to sweat on molly, so perhaps that's what he means.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: Janky Tits]
#22157875 - 08/28/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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pills were always my favourite because that was the first real drug experience i ever had. i mean, i'd smoked weed before but that doesn't count. the first real 'powder' 'real drug' experience. i loved it too. it was like holy shit. this is amazing. how is this illegal? But the thing is most don't realise why untill years down the track when they realise they regret ever taking drugs in the first place and the damage they do to your brain...
but there was something satisfying about the pill being pre-pepared and good to go. as opposed to with crystal mdma being sold in baggies that then need to be capped, or even pre-filled caps, they just dont have the same appeal to them
but i'm definitely one of the people you mentioned in the OP about how they think pressed rolls aren't 100% MDMA. which i think is true, even if you sounded like you were trolling a bit. theres no way that pill is 100% to the dot all MDMA. theres other stuff mixed in with it, even if its ' just binders ', which it isn't. theres almost always other kinds of crap mixed into them.
K pills, speedy pills. 2c-b pills - which i actually think is a bit of a dickmove to put something psychedelic like that in a standard pill thats given to someone not knowing or expecting they are going to trip balls and may not be able to handle it. and unfortunately even dangerous chemicals like PMA that people have died from.
like i dont know how PMA even finds its way into pills in the first place. it doesnt make sense even from the guy who originally presses them, thats not going to benefit anyone. its probably done by mistake or they just dont give a shit about it and mix anything in to their batches
but thats one of the biggest problems with drugs originating from unknown places. theres no quality control. no one really knows what gets put into these things, if it's all been done properly and isn't contaminated. all kinds of shit
i know people who actually prefer the pressed rolls even with all the extra stim stuff that usually gets cut into them instead of the actual pure crystal MDMA, cos they mostly took them out at nightclubs to rage, not to be couch locked for the night.
i remember a person telling me about the first time they tried actual pure MDMA crystal, and he said it was different to what he was expecting, not the sort of loved up raging high they used to get from the pills they would eat normally that they assosciated with MDMA. pure MD is more mellow and you dont want to move around too much, rather just be at peace with the world and get your zen on and shit.
He even said he actually preferred the pressed rolls that had some other kind of a stimulant kick mixed into it with the MDMA, because he would always have both the energy and the love, which was the perfect mix for that kind of setting at a club.
i think the thing that screwed 'molly' and alot of the drug market in general was all of those cheap RC chemical imitation chemicals that seem to have appeared recently. just because something is cheap and easy doesn't mean its good . but all those mephedrone, methylone bk-MDMA crap. even with tabs of LSD i hear all these stories of RC n-bomes, bromodragon fly. DOC (ask ole zombi3 about that one).
my understanding used to be that crystal MD was crystal MD, if you actually managed to find it was always real MDMA and you were dealing with a wizard, there was never any question. it was always a much rarer sort of thing that you had to kind of know the right person to even be able to get it. it was the pressed rolls that seemed to be the gamble. not knowing if they were good, if they were clean.
any pillhead will tell you about a pills reputation ' nah these are the original green mitzis '. and just all the shit that came with pressed rolls.
that was actually one of the cool things about the ' pill economy '. you had to know which ones were good and word would spread around. certain pills would develope a reputation. and just in general there was a more personal feeling associated with eating those brightly coloured pre-prepared little pills with pictures on them. that thing i just ate, it had a name and a story too.
as opposed to just scooping some crystal out of a bag, or eating some pill thats filled in a way that makes you think its either bunk or you've been ripped off. theres not enough! i've been ripped off! ... Dude! Theres way too much in there! This stuff must be garbage! it was never just right in the way that it was with a pressed pill.
when you had the pill, thats all there was to it. being given a pill never steered you down the path of examining it under a magnifying glass to see what its in it - atleast not anymore then to see if you could work out what the image was, and see how high the guy was who drew the dolphin that looks nothing at all like an actual dolphin in the first place. but you never questioned if it was hollow, made of plastic. That noble wizard from the castle in the sky had pre-negotiated this part of the deal for you both already. all you would need to know is the name. They're orange tulips. quick glance at the bag, and we're good. alright thanks man i'll let you know how i go. none of this " hey, nah man... this looks fucked... is this the same stuff at last time? ". My friend, look. that is the exact same purple turtle you got last time. Now go and enjoy.
and that was usually enough to dispell that natural uncertainty about whether your drugs were drugs and worth your hard earned coin. you had now acquired the pills, clearly verified that they are pills and it would end there. Kind of like shrooms. when someone hands you a bag of shrooms, you can obviously see... alright... i got a bag of mushrooms here... i think i'm on the righ ttrack... now it was just a matter of when and where are you going to eat 'em! Happy days
everyones remembers those stories with their pillhead mates, or remembers those conversations that unexpectedly starts out with: " remember those red russians though??????? ", and it brings you back for a minute hearing the name. and then its off from there. (I miss those conversations mang. Drugs are best shared with your bros and brodettes, not wasted on your own) and on the conversation flows seemlessly back and forth, reminissing. each person taking turns in cutting the previous off from actually getting to the point of their shpiel out of excitement to tell their own most recent revelation. sparking other related memories. and at that stage the flood gates usually open and its a free for all no holds barred match on who can out "that was the best" the other people. telling the guy he is an idiot and thats not what happened as you both are intensely disecting eachother statements like youre being examined in a court room.
i guess you kind of got that a little with with crystal MDMA, but it was more like " remember that night we got that crazy mdma ", and off the conversation begins from there, destination unknown..!
it's shit like this that non-drug people have missed out on bro. you know. nigga. you know. i know you know cos you read this far and your probably smiling right now. fuck yeah. you've experienced life in a way that majority of the general public never have, never will, and probably wouldn't be able to. It's life experience. and hopefully when its all said and done, your one of the lucky ones who made it out un-scathed and look back favourably on your time out in lala land. because most of the people i know, myself inclusive, haven't or didn't. soo much fucked up shit happens with drugs. again, its one of those things that non-drug people don't have a grasp of. and maybe they are the lucky ones in that regard having never really been forced to become familiar with and diffuse paranoias ever ticking time bomb....
but anyways, at some stage before getting derailed numerous times above, one of the things i was trying to say was something special about good pressed pills. this pill has been hand made by a well esteemed wizard, high atop his ivory mountain and safeguarded halfway around the globe to finally reach your possession, as it originally was created and intended. and it has certifiably and positively not been fucked with from then untill now!. Which is the way it should be. You greedy fucks
it's just a better system. No worries
And If it had been tampered with, it'd be clearly apparent as the wizards seal is no longer in tact. As this is a cause for concern and would probably even get you a discount. It reminds me in the scene from American Gangster where Denzel Washington, playing Frank Lucas, confronts one of his rivals, Nicky Barnes (by the way, both Nicky Barnes and Frank Lucas have epic life stories that have been made into good documentaries if thats your thing) about tampering with his product and still selling it under the same monicker. "Blue Magic, thats a brand name."
It makes you wonder.. Was this all carefully considered at every step of the way by Gandalf himself? That his stamp of approval would soon translate into peace of mind for the drug user? Or is gandalf not really gandalf, but some employee of an international drug syndicate who isn't too worried about what goes into the mixer at all, they're all going to look the same at the end of the day anyway, right?
Eitherway there was a much as sense of security as possible found in seeing a familiar trademark on a familiar kind of pill. A little sigh of relief when you look down and regognized that same oddly engraved design on the pill. It's them again. Let the games begin! Thats something that almost never happens with crystal
these days now it seems that even crystal MD isn't even real MDMA anymore and its a gamble too now though. but at the end of the day i guess theres always an element of gambling with drugs to some degree.
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Most of the rolls around me have 5-MeO-DIPT in them. The most popular/common ones have a mix of 5-MeO-DIPT & Bencyclidine.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: Zombi3]
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omg you reminded me how I need to get 5-meo-mipt... such a good droog
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: yogabunny]
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Exstacy is typically pressed meth in my area, I just buy shards.
I feel like we've been talking about meth a lot lately.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: TNK]
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I've had good pills and some great MDMA. Generally pills are the best way to go but I remember about 5 years ago, there was a flood of these on the market. Some really impressive looking BZP presses that were complete garbage and frequently sold as E
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: TNK]
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TheNatureKid said: Exstacy is typically pressed meth in my area, I just buy shards.
I feel like we've been talking about meth a lot lately.
Meth is very common in pills around me too.
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Soulidarity said: pills were always my favourite because that was the first real drug experience i ever had. i mean, i'd smoked weed before but that doesn't count. the first real 'powder' 'real drug' experience. i loved it too. it was like holy shit. this is amazing. how is this illegal? But the thing is most don't realise why untill years down the track when they realise they regret ever taking drugs in the first place and the damage they do to your brain...
but there was something satisfying about the pill being pre-pepared and good to go. as opposed to with crystal mdma being sold in baggies that then need to be capped, or even pre-filled caps, they just dont have the same appeal to them
but i'm definitely one of the people you mentioned in the OP about how they think pressed rolls aren't 100% MDMA. which i think is true, even if you sounded like you were trolling a bit. theres no way that pill is 100% to the dot all MDMA. theres other stuff mixed in with it, even if its ' just binders ', which it isn't. theres almost always other kinds of crap mixed into them.
K pills, speedy pills. 2c-b pills - which i actually think is a bit of a dickmove to put something psychedelic like that in a standard pill thats given to someone not knowing or expecting they are going to trip balls and may not be able to handle it. and unfortunately even dangerous chemicals like PMA that people have died from.
like i dont know how PMA even finds its way into pills in the first place. it doesnt make sense even from the guy who originally presses them, thats not going to benefit anyone. its probably done by mistake or they just dont give a shit about it and mix anything in to their batches
but thats one of the biggest problems with drugs originating from unknown places. theres no quality control. no one really knows what gets put into these things, if it's all been done properly and isn't contaminated. all kinds of shit
i know people who actually prefer the pressed rolls even with all the extra stim stuff that usually gets cut into them instead of the actual pure crystal MDMA, cos they mostly took them out at nightclubs to rage, not to be couch locked for the night.
i remember a person telling me about the first time they tried actual pure MDMA crystal, and he said it was different to what he was expecting, not the sort of loved up raging high they used to get from the pills they would eat normally that they assosciated with MDMA. pure MD is more mellow and you dont want to move around too much, rather just be at peace with the world and get your zen on and shit.
He even said he actually preferred the pressed rolls that had some other kind of a stimulant kick mixed into it with the MDMA, because he would always have both the energy and the love, which was the perfect mix for that kind of setting at a club.
i think the thing that screwed 'molly' and alot of the drug market in general was all of those cheap RC chemical imitation chemicals that seem to have appeared recently. just because something is cheap and easy doesn't mean its good . but all those mephedrone, methylone bk-MDMA crap. even with tabs of LSD i hear all these stories of RC n-bomes, bromodragon fly. DOC (ask ole zombi3 about that one).
my understanding used to be that crystal MD was crystal MD, if you actually managed to find it was always real MDMA and you were dealing with a wizard, there was never any question. it was always a much rarer sort of thing that you had to kind of know the right person to even be able to get it. it was the pressed rolls that seemed to be the gamble. not knowing if they were good, if they were clean.
any pillhead will tell you about a pills reputation ' nah these are the original green mitzis '. and just all the shit that came with pressed rolls.
that was actually one of the cool things about the ' pill economy '. you had to know which ones were good and word would spread around. certain pills would develope a reputation. and just in general there was a more personal feeling associated with eating those brightly coloured pre-prepared little pills with pictures on them. that thing i just ate, it had a name and a story too.
as opposed to just scooping some crystal out of a bag, or eating some pill thats filled in a way that makes you think its either bunk or you've been ripped off. theres not enough! i've been ripped off! ... Dude! Theres way too much in there! This stuff must be garbage! it was never just right in the way that it was with a pressed pill.
when you had the pill, thats all there was to it. being given a pill never steered you down the path of examining it under a magnifying glass to see what its in it - atleast not anymore then to see if you could work out what the image was, and see how high the guy was who drew the dolphin that looks nothing at all like an actual dolphin in the first place. but you never questioned if it was hollow, made of plastic. That noble wizard from the castle in the sky had pre-negotiated this part of the deal for you both already. all you would need to know is the name. They're orange tulips. quick glance at the bag, and we're good. alright thanks man i'll let you know how i go. none of this " hey, nah man... this looks fucked... is this the same stuff at last time? ". My friend, look. that is the exact same purple turtle you got last time. Now go and enjoy.
and that was usually enough to dispell that natural uncertainty about whether your drugs were drugs and worth your hard earned coin. you had now acquired the pills, clearly verified that they are pills and it would end there. Kind of like shrooms. when someone hands you a bag of shrooms, you can obviously see... alright... i got a bag of mushrooms here... i think i'm on the righ ttrack... now it was just a matter of when and where are you going to eat 'em! Happy days
everyones remembers those stories with their pillhead mates, or remembers those conversations that unexpectedly starts out with: " remember those red russians though??????? ", and it brings you back for a minute hearing the name. and then its off from there. (I miss those conversations mang. Drugs are best shared with your bros and brodettes, not wasted on your own) and on the conversation flows seemlessly back and forth, reminissing. each person taking turns in cutting the previous off from actually getting to the point of their shpiel out of excitement to tell their own most recent revelation. sparking other related memories. and at that stage the flood gates usually open and its a free for all no holds barred match on who can out "that was the best" the other people. telling the guy he is an idiot and thats not what happened as you both are intensely disecting eachother statements like youre being examined in a court room.
i guess you kind of got that a little with with crystal MDMA, but it was more like " remember that night we got that crazy mdma ", and off the conversation begins from there, destination unknown..!
it's shit like this that non-drug people have missed out on bro. you know. nigga. you know. i know you know cos you read this far and your probably smiling right now. fuck yeah. you've experienced life in a way that majority of the general public never have, never will, and probably wouldn't be able to. It's life experience. and hopefully when its all said and done, your one of the lucky ones who made it out un-scathed and look back favourably on your time out in lala land. because most of the people i know, myself inclusive, haven't or didn't. soo much fucked up shit happens with drugs. again, its one of those things that non-drug people don't have a grasp of. and maybe they are the lucky ones in that regard having never really been forced to become familiar with and diffuse paranoias ever ticking time bomb....
but anyways, at some stage before getting derailed numerous times above, one of the things i was trying to say was something special about good pressed pills. this pill has been hand made by a well esteemed wizard, high atop his ivory mountain and safeguarded halfway around the globe to finally reach your possession, as it originally was created and intended. and it has certifiably and positively not been fucked with from then untill now!. Which is the way it should be. You greedy fucks
it's just a better system. No worries
And If it had been tampered with, it'd be clearly apparent as the wizards seal is no longer in tact. As this is a cause for concern and would probably even get you a discount. It reminds me in the scene from American Gangster where Denzel Washington, playing Frank Lucas, confronts one of his rivals, Nicky Barnes (by the way, both Nicky Barnes and Frank Lucas have epic life stories that have been made into good documentaries if thats your thing) about tampering with his product and still selling it under the same monicker. "Blue Magic, thats a brand name."
It makes you wonder.. Was this all carefully considered at every step of the way by Gandalf himself? That his stamp of approval would soon translate into peace of mind for the drug user? Or is gandalf not really gandalf, but some employee of an international drug syndicate who isn't too worried about what goes into the mixer at all, they're all going to look the same at the end of the day anyway, right?
Eitherway there was a much as sense of security as possible found in seeing a familiar trademark on a familiar kind of pill. A little sigh of relief when you look down and regognized that same oddly engraved design on the pill. It's them again. Let the games begin! Thats something that almost never happens with crystal
these days now it seems that even crystal MD isn't even real MDMA anymore and its a gamble too now though. but at the end of the day i guess theres always an element of gambling with drugs to some degree.
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Technically it should all be the same. Molly is E, and vice versa. MDMA is MDMA, the only difference is dosage and Crystal quality.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: danielx]
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danielx said: Technically it should all be the same. Molly is E, and vice versa. MDMA is MDMA, the only difference is dosage and Crystal quality.
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Seriously_trippin said: It's hit and miss but after many years in Socal now we get all our pressies and molly from either San fran or straight from the netherlands. We test everything so not much fake shit gets past us anymore.I don't think it's made a "comeback", They have always been popular. Molly just became popular for a while because of miley cyrus and shit. For a long time I got cut shit,fake shit and both when buying molly. Pressies are just more identifiable and often more mdma in them then say a .2 of a little molly and caffeine. Just always test Long live pressies
You remember the pokeball days in socal? Always a guaranteed good roll, always flooded. Then knock offs came and they're now history.
Shit if you get a pokeball now a days it's a guaranteed RC or something that's not MDMA if pokeballs are even around still which they prob aren't.
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: Janky Tits]
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Yup, another good reason Molly>pressed pills.
I remember when it was pokeballs vs chi town mints. The debate would rage which one was more fire.
Had many pokes, never got to try a mint though. Nowdays its hard to beat $20 grams of fire moon rock when bought in bulk
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: Zombi3]
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Zombi3 said: Most of the rolls around me have 5-MeO-DIPT in them. The most popular/common ones have a mix of 5-MeO-DIPT & Bencyclidine.
that seems like a bad idea... don't the "5-meo's" have dangerous physical aspects?
mixing with mdma seems like a recipe for disaster
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: topdog82]
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Zombi3 said: Most of the rolls around me have 5-MeO-DIPT in them. The most popular/common ones have a mix of 5-MeO-DIPT & Bencyclidine.
that seems like a bad idea... don't the "5-meo's" have dangerous physical aspects?
mixing with mdma seems like a recipe for disaster
Not to my knowledge - 5-meo-mipt is fairly safe afaik - Don't know about the other ones
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Re: E is better than Molly [Re: twighead]
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twighead said: omg you reminded me how I need to get 5-meo-mipt... such a good droog 
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Zombi3 said: Most of the rolls around me have 5-MeO-DIPT in them. The most popular/common ones have a mix of 5-MeO-DIPT & Bencyclidine.
that seems like a bad idea... don't the "5-meo's" have dangerous physical aspects?
mixing with mdma seems like a recipe for disaster
Not to my knowledge - 5-meo-mipt is fairly safe afaik - Don't know about the other ones
perhaps i am just confusing things. thanks for the clarification
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