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hcheline
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Re: First monotub, colonization time? [Re: hcheline]
#22230092 - 09/13/15 06:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anyone?
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taGyo
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Re: First monotub, colonization time? [Re: hcheline]
#22230255 - 09/13/15 07:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks super dry man, needs a good mist. You have pooling water where you should have tiny droplets all along the sub. Tighten up the top holes:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777
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Re: First monotub, colonization time? [Re: taGyo]
#22288771 - 09/25/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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New progress



 so the small tub is pinning and fruiting
but so far there seems to be very little pins, and most of them are not growing very fast.
i've got 4 that are some what large, about 10-12 cm long and 1.5cm or so in diameter, all the rest are what you see in the pics.
Some discoloration had developed in the last few days. I think i let it get dehydrated? I should've probably did what taGyo said sooner.
I plugged the top holes tighter now, will it recover?
Thanks for checkin'!
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Re: First monotub, colonization time? [Re: hcheline]
#22288777 - 09/25/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Needs another mist. At this point just mist whenever you see there is no water. It needs a good dunk after your first flush.
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Re: First monotub, colonization time? [Re: taGyo]
#22288789 - 09/25/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is that like a laundry basket? Those are all holes?
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Re: First monotub, colonization time? [Re: mushpunx]
#22288815 - 09/25/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
mushpunx said: Is that like a laundry basket? Those are all holes?
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I'm done.
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Re: First monotub, colonization time? [Re: mushpunx]
#22288943 - 09/25/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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lol, yeah, I wanted to try something after spending forever cutting holes out of my first tote, so for the second setup I got a laundry basket, and just taped off the ones I didn't need.
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Re: First monotub, colonization time? [Re: hcheline]
#22288958 - 09/25/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea thats probably your problem. That and/or your bottom poly is too loose.
I try to dial in my tubs so there is surface condensation over the whole sub, except *just* around the bottom poly the condensation starts to dry up. That way I know Im giving all the FAE possible, any more will start causing dry spots
So if you are still getting a dry sub, maybe tape up all but 4 holes w poly on the bottom, and stuff them very tightly, and only 2 holes on top, stuff loosely. Is the typical monotub.
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Re: First monotub, colonization time? [Re: mushpunx]
#22293303 - 09/26/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Alright, I've since taped up some holes and tightened all the stuffing, keeping the top a bit looser than the bottom.
Now i've got condensation all over except the around the holes.
Let's see what happens.
I'll probably make another fruiting chamber that has the exact same holes as frank's tek and compare how well that works.
Thanks for the advice!!
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Re: First monotub, colonization time? [Re: hcheline]
#22303036 - 09/28/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey guys:
I'm back again with all kinds of noobishness, hope you can tolerate some more. ^^
So I readjusted the FAE holes according to frank's 12 step, and let it sit for the last days, but nothing was happening, there's still only a handful of pins that didn't develop at all, which made me worried.
On top of that, I noticed little bugs scampering out of the crack between the bag and the sub, and they were flying around! I think they were cockroaches.
I thought maybe it's this infestation that was preventing the pinning, so I decided I'll dunk the whole thing in a diluted bleach solution, to rehydrate and maybe kill some of the baddies. When I pulled up the corner of bag, I noticed that there were full grown fruit bodies stuck between the lining and the bag. I then peeled up the sides all around, and turns out there were lots of fruits, some were fully developed even, I picked it all out and it's probably around 1kg worth.
I guess the lack of surface moisture made them fruit into where the moisture was at?
Any advice?
I think I'm starting to have a slight grasp on the effect of FAE and RH now, hopefully next time will go better.
P.S. For the roaches, I have no idea how they got there, could some eggs have been hiding in the hpoo or coir? Or they were laid after spawning? Maybe I need to protect the fruiting chamber perimeter with some baking powder + sugar mix?
Edited by hcheline (09/28/15 02:02 PM)
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Re: First monotub, colonization time? [Re: hcheline]
#22303078 - 09/28/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sounds like you had fungus gnats and improper environment, causing the sides to become prime pinning locations.
Not sure about the gnats but you hit the needle with the hammer on why it pinned down there.
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Re: First monotub, colonization time? [Re: taGyo]
#22303566 - 09/28/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ah, yes they do look like gnats. How harmful are they?
Any precautions I can take against them?
I have a few more jars of grain that are almost colonized, I hope I can get the RH/FAE ratio better this time.
Thanks a lot for the help!
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Re: First monotub, colonization time? [Re: hcheline]
#22304173 - 09/28/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Get better FAE, gnats become a problem and continue to be a problem. Don't fruit that tub where you're gonna be fruiting other things. They have very short life cycles but lay a lot of eggs.
I'd post your question about gnats here:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/235
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Re: First monotub, colonization time? [Re: taGyo]
#22348934 - 10/08/15 07:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just a tip from a fellow noob who has spent a lot of time trying to improvise myself. Find a good guide, Frank's monotub guide is an amazing place to start and follow it exactly. I didn't have a really successful grow until I stopped pretending I knew anything about mycology. You'll learn a lot during your first good grow.
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