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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: DirdyD] 1
#22160018 - 08/29/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Rose said: This, "You're not really a woman mentality" is killing us in real life.
I'll start by saying I have no qualms with anyone doing anything that they'd like as long as it doesn't involve mucking up someone else's life.
But what does someone's opinion of whether they truly consider a trans person their intended sex have to do with this assault or being assaulted in general?
You're not saying that just because someone doesn't agree that you're truly a female, it automatically makes them violent and associated with the folks that roughed you up, are yah?
Sorry about what happened. Life is hard, no matter who you are.
There are places that can help you learn to read better. Perhaps you could find one and then give this discussion another look.
Life is hard? No shit. I have been living it for 40 years. I have seen shit that would blow your mind. Few on this website have seen as many people killed as I have.
What I am talking about is how people are now quick to respond to me with their fists. It is a noticeable change.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: Rose]
#22160633 - 08/29/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well u know what they say, what comes around goes around.
U got modded out irl son
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: Rose]
#22160688 - 08/29/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ha ha. Just pokin
Sorry rose. People are assholes. I only read a few pages here. And admittedly I'm very high. But i just wanted to wish you pleasant thoughts Have you considered moving to a city where people are more accepting?
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: zZZz]
#22160707 - 08/29/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hahaha!
That is one way of saying it.
I am not particularly feminine. It fucks with people's expectations. Sometimes, tiny brains get hurt in my presence. I certainly can't afford any surgery that would help me fit in better and I am not sure I would want it even if I could.
I just have to keep living and doing my thing... whilst learning what situations now pose a larger danger than before.
The VAST majority of people are accepting or at least, tolerant. Even here. I have never been attacked by a smart person. It is stupid that I have to watch for.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: azur]
#22160714 - 08/29/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ha ha. Just pokin
Sorry rose. People are assholes. I only read a few pages here. And admittedly I'm very high. But i just wanted to wish you pleasant thoughts Have you considered moving to a city where people are more accepting?
We are just stuck in buttfuck Hicksville for a little while longer while we finalize our bankruptcy. We will be moving to the PNW eventually.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: Rose] 1
#22163769 - 08/30/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Rose said:
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DirdyD said:
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Rose said: This, "You're not really a woman mentality" is killing us in real life.
I'll start by saying I have no qualms with anyone doing anything that they'd like as long as it doesn't involve mucking up someone else's life.
But what does someone's opinion of whether they truly consider a trans person their intended sex have to do with this assault or being assaulted in general?
You're not saying that just because someone doesn't agree that you're truly a female, it automatically makes them violent and associated with the folks that roughed you up, are yah?
Sorry about what happened. Life is hard, no matter who you are.
There are places that can help you learn to read better. Perhaps you could find one and then give this discussion another look.
Life is hard? No shit. I have been living it for 40 years. I have seen shit that would blow your mind. Few on this website have seen as many people killed as I have.
What I am talking about is how people are now quick to respond to me with their fists. It is a noticeable change.
or.. if i'm mistaken you could just tell me how instead of being an ass as you simultaneously complain about others doing the same.
chill with the aggressiveness. I'm not ever trying to have an argument. Not my bag. But I'm seeing how you getting your butt kicked makes sense after reading your response. Certainly need to be able to back a badass mind frame up with actually being a badass. Seems like you've got a sharp tongue but lack the physical capability to counter the physical attack talking such trash would likely bring IRL. I'd work on that.
Edited by DirdyD (08/30/15 08:54 AM)
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: DirdyD]
#22163828 - 08/30/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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"Talking trash?"
Anybody who responds to speech with violence is a neanderthal retard. Do you count yourself as one?
Also don't go to a bar for a drink without money.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: zappaisgod] 2
#22163868 - 08/30/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nah. Violence is usually a sign of low intelligence and/or inebriation. Defense is a different story. I was referencing his/her response to my post. That trash talk.
If Rose would use that sort of language IRL, he/she would have a hell of a time with the ass whooping that would likely occur, given who he/she said it to.
Side note: If a male that has/ is transitioning to a female but still looks like a male expects everyone to treat them as a woman because that's what he/she prefers, that's just idiocy. If you're in the company of dudes in an environment like a bar, you really should be aware of what the dynamic of the environment is, not what you think it should be. It's almost like jumping in the ocean and expecting not to get wet.
To expect people to be aware and educated in the intricacies and subtleties of trans life and simultaneously hold your opinion on things is ridiculous. I'm a straight male and I never expect the same because that is completely illogical. You're setting yourself up for failure, which often manifests in physical altercations. If you lack the testosterone, muscle and/or fighting skill to defend yourself, you're asking for some real trouble.
Sorta the same thing with you, ZIG. Talk that sort of trash to the wrong person IRL, and given your age you're likely to be on the losing end. But this is the internet and people are very comfortable with writing checks they couldn't cash IRL.
Edited by DirdyD (08/30/15 09:18 AM)
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: DirdyD] 1
#22163902 - 08/30/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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This story is heartwarming.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: DirdyD]
#22163906 - 08/30/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Given my age? Mary, I've been in construction for 40 years. I have never been afraid of anybody. I'm still not. People do not fuck with me.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: nicechrisman]
#22163936 - 08/30/15 09:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: I'm sorry to hear that Rose. That's very fucked up.
Fucking bigots..
This is why i usually dont ever go to bars to many rooster cocks who are drunk and wanna start shit Theres times when you fight, and theres times when you walk or get the fuck out of the area
Fuck those assailants, there negative energy will come back to bite there ass 10x
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: zappaisgod] 2
#22163944 - 08/30/15 09:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Construction for 40 years? Yea, I'd say your body is toast. Sit back down in your rocking chair old man
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#22163961 - 08/30/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Always exceptions to the rule. But 40 years in construction could also be a bad thing. I spent a number of years in the military, trained hand to hand and weapons use to the highest order, 32 y/o and I talk less trash than most anyone I know. Thats how it usually works though. Certified killer and badass if there ever was such a thing. You'd never know it though because I'm the nicest guy youre likely to ever meet. Not much to prove these days.
Internet does strange things to people.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: DirdyD]
#22163978 - 08/30/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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DirdyD said: Always exceptions to the rule. But 40 years in construction could also be a bad thing. I spent a number of years in the military, trained hand to hand and weapons use to the highest order, 32 y/o and I talk less trash than most anyone I know. Thats how it usually works though. Certified killer and badass if there ever was such a thing. You'd never know it though because I'm the nicest guy youre likely to ever meet. Not much to prove these days.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: Masked] 1
#22163986 - 08/30/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I blame it on ordering a PBR... The incident wouldn't have escalated if a Lemon Drop was ordered.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: azur]
#22163991 - 08/30/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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azur said: Construction for 40 years? Yea, I'd say your body is toast. Sit back down in your rocking chair old man
I'm still doing it.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: Detached]
#22163998 - 08/30/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Detached said: I blame it on ordering a PBR... The incident wouldn't have escalated if a Lemon Drop was ordered.
Shoulda ordered a Bud. PBR is Brooklyn hipster beer.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: DirdyD]
#22164004 - 08/30/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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DirdyD said: Always exceptions to the rule. But 40 years in construction could also be a bad thing. I spent a number of years in the military, trained hand to hand and weapons use to the highest order, 32 y/o and I talk less trash than most anyone I know. Thats how it usually works though. Certified killer and badass if there ever was such a thing. You'd never know it though because I'm the nicest guy youre likely to ever meet. Not much to prove these days.
Internet does strange things to people.
Not only have I never been in a bar fight I've never even seen one. People don't fuck with me.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: zappaisgod]
#22164033 - 08/30/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Same here, 'cept that one time. Wouldnt call that a fight and its a long story nobody wants to hear.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: DirdyD] 1
#22164040 - 08/30/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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DirdyD said:
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Rose said:
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DirdyD said:
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Rose said: This, "You're not really a woman mentality" is killing us in real life.
I'll start by saying I have no qualms with anyone doing anything that they'd like as long as it doesn't involve mucking up someone else's life.
But what does someone's opinion of whether they truly consider a trans person their intended sex have to do with this assault or being assaulted in general?
You're not saying that just because someone doesn't agree that you're truly a female, it automatically makes them violent and associated with the folks that roughed you up, are yah?
Sorry about what happened. Life is hard, no matter who you are.
There are places that can help you learn to read better. Perhaps you could find one and then give this discussion another look.
Life is hard? No shit. I have been living it for 40 years. I have seen shit that would blow your mind. Few on this website have seen as many people killed as I have.
What I am talking about is how people are now quick to respond to me with their fists. It is a noticeable change.
or.. if i'm mistaken you could just tell me how instead of being an ass as you simultaneously complain about others doing the same.
chill with the aggressiveness. I'm not ever trying to have an argument. Not my bag. But I'm seeing how you getting your butt kicked makes sense after reading your response. Certainly need to be able to back a badass mind frame up with actually being a badass. Seems like you've got a sharp tongue but lack the physical capability to counter the physical attack talking such trash would likely bring IRL. I'd work on that.
Wouldn't call that one line of sarcasm "talking trash"... but it was well deserved since you seem woefully ignorant of what actually happened. It wasn't a "life is hard" moment. It was a "there are still intolerant assholes out there that will use physical violence to assert their intolerance" moment.
Your post reeks of a complete lack of sympathy or even basic understanding. So you deserved the "trash talk".
you're so self-righteous and yet you've said some of the most insensitive shit in this thread.
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