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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: Rose]
#22157535 - 08/28/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I said my view on the surgery is less then liberal as it is now. I completely support trans people, even if they make that choice, it is just not something that screams 'mental health' when you get your cock inverted, when you could have just tucked it away and done everything else like hormones and facial surgery. I guess some people are happy like that
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: zappaisgod]
#22157538 - 08/28/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Your assumption is that I don't support their trans. I sure as hell do. Which is why this story of roses hurts and Infuriates me
And even tho I think BS is an annoying ass, Id be just as saddened had she shared this story
Nice try tho
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: Rose] 1
#22157585 - 08/28/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Rose said:
In fact, my brain is quite sound.
I can attest to this
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#22157634 - 08/28/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry it happened to you. I too know the feeling of being "unique" in a small town. Try being the only spanish man in a small redneck town. Long story short it cost me over 4000 dollars and a long time before my life got on track again. Just finished my first week of college now!!!!
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: Rose]
#22157690 - 08/28/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm glad it was no worse than it was, Rose. But this still makes me feel terrible.
Does humanity ever really grow? Or do they just find new people to pick on and different ways to pick on them?
Children. All of them.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: Rose]
#22157769 - 08/28/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's awful rose. People are pretty fucked up, but maybe it's a good thing that they showed you that they aren't really people you would ever want to spend time with anywhere. I know that sounds fucked up. They arent people you want to be hanging around tho but that shouldnt have happened.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: 404]
#22157808 - 08/28/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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As for martial arts, yes I have studied.
I am really good at taking a punch and falling well. I am also fairly skilled at not escating a situation. It was when they brought my wife into the mix that I lost my cool and held firm. That was a mistake tactically. It was the right thing honorably.
Martial arts training really kept me from doing something stupid last night. It kept me from being hurt even worse than I was.
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Rose
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specialpeopleclub said: I said my view on the surgery is less then liberal as it is now. I completely support trans people, even if they make that choice, it is just not something that screams 'mental health' when you get your cock inverted, when you could have just tucked it away and done everything else like hormones and facial surgery. I guess some people are happy like that
Then you don't get it. I don't blame you. I probably wouldn't either were I not trans. It is a mind fuck from your side and one from mine.
Scientifically, male and female brains have slight physical differences and trans people are born with a brain that does not match the body. One part of me was always female. My damn grey matter.
I can go into the science, research, theories and shit if you are interested... but I will spare both of us unless you tell me you want more info.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: Rose] 3
#22158088 - 08/28/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Rose said:
Martial arts training really kept me from doing something stupid last night. It kept me from being hurt even worse than I was.
This is something most people do not understand. A huge part of the training is in restraint and I don't mean knot tying. Avoid if at all possible. Only act under extreme duress.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: zappaisgod] 2
#22158111 - 08/28/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bingo.
This was not a life or death situation but one wrong aggressive move from me could have turned it that way.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: Rose] 2
#22158133 - 08/28/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Rose said: Bingo.
If I fight this, I become BS in the eyes of my community. Trans people who fight back get run through the ringer by assholes... or worse.
I've always said it... We in the LGB community just tore forward like a bull, but no one ever made sure our T family kept up with us.
I'm really sorry you had to deal with that horse shit.
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Sadly I will have to say that if she doesn't get the fuck out of Mantana she will continue to have to deal with it if she goes to bars. It is not exactly an enlightened part of the country. Rose, get the fuck out of there. You need to be on a coast or in a big city. I hate to say it but flyover country is not likely to be welcoming.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: zappaisgod]
#22158156 - 08/28/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Sadly I will have to say that if she doesn't get the fuck out of Mantana she will continue to have to deal with it if she goes to bars. It is not exactly an enlightened part of the country. Rose, get the fuck out of there. You need to be on a coast or in a big city. I hate to say it but flyover country is not likely to be welcoming.
truth. and who wants to live in constant fear
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: Rose]
#22158162 - 08/28/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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What do you practice?
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Rose
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: 404] 1
#22158306 - 08/28/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Theatre.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: Rose] 1
#22158394 - 08/28/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Really though, a few years of tai chi, then shing yi and Bagua. I like the old Chineese stuff coded in Zen teachings.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: Rose]
#22159277 - 08/29/15 04:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Rose said: This, "You're not really a woman mentality" is killing us in real life.
I'll start by saying I have no qualms with anyone doing anything that they'd like as long as it doesn't involve mucking up someone else's life.
But what does someone's opinion of whether they truly consider a trans person their intended sex have to do with this assault or being assaulted in general?
You're not saying that just because someone doesn't agree that you're truly a female, it automatically makes them violent and associated with the folks that roughed you up, are yah?
Sorry about what happened. Life is hard, no matter who you are.
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: Rose]
#22159341 - 08/29/15 06:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: DirdyD]
#22159378 - 08/29/15 06:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Jesus Christ, Rose!  I'm glad you and yours are okay. Fucking cave dwellers, that's what they are.
And as you can see on this website, there is still a long way to go.
"Do what you want, but people who are trans don't scream mental health to me." Sounds like: "I'm not racist, but..."
Bunch of backwards ass morons.
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You're not saying that just because someone doesn't agree that you're truly a female, it automatically makes them violent and associated with the folks that roughed you up, are yah?
Sorry about what happened. Life is hard, no matter who you are.
Get this man a brainscan, I think he has cancer in his brain.
Again, Rose, seriously, this is fucked up. This is some Syria level shit, know what I'm saying? Here, another hug smiley:
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Re: A Trans Woman Walks Into a Bar... [Re: Turtletotem] 1
#22160002 - 08/29/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for the big smiley.
Someone earlier asked what I am doing differently now than before because I must be doing something wrong to bring this all on myself.
I was an outspoken Irish man. Now I am an outspoken Irish tran.
I used to be a dick with a passion for alcohol. Now I am nicer and I drink far, far less... and boobs!
Boobs are cool. I digress...
The common tie between all the assaults these past two years? Alcohol... and men. They don't mix very well with a trans person. On a couple of these occasions I was drinking too. On a couple, I was not... or this most recent, I was not served because I was short a dollar.
Avoiding drunks in this town is like avoiding air. Impossible. This shit also happened in Honolulu a few times. Another town where there is a lot of drinking that spills outside to the streets.
I typically avoid these situations as best I can and usually drink at home if and when I do drink. I figured I was safe in a group of eight.
The first couple times this happened, I learned the hard way how I now have the metabolism of a woman and I can't keep up with men. I also learned that I could no longer walk alone in certain parts of town. It took many months to learn to curb my alcohol intake. Avoiding certain areas was easy in comparison.
Really though, some people are just bigoted assholes who rush to judgment. They would rather talk with their fists than have a discussion. Especially when they drink. If I too am drinking, it fucks with my reaction time.
Transition does not come with a handbook. Lessons are learned the hard way.
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