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Re: If you care about your health you should drink alcohol [Re: Achillita]
    #22162516 - 08/29/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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:lol: If you care about your neuroprotective health, vape/smoke nicotine.

Or weed at least.




half a pack a day, keeps the doctor away.


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Re: If you care about your health you should drink alcohol [Re: BlackWidow]
    #22162552 - 08/29/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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"Heavy alcohol consumption has both immediate and long-term detrimental effects on the brain and neuropsychological functioning (Delin and Lee 1992; Evert and Oscar-Berman 1995). Heavy drinking accelerates shrinkage, or atrophy, of the brain, which in turn is a critical determinant of neurodegenerative changes and cognitive decline in aging (Meyer et al. 1998). The shrinkage of brain tissue seen in Alzheimer's disease and alcoholism is shown in the figure."



Source: http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh25-4/299-306.htm



This makes me never want to drink again


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Re: If you care about your health you should drink alcohol [Re: trvptamine] * 2
    #22162559 - 08/29/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

as long as you smoke that cant happen bro.

the tobacco offsets the damage from the alcohol. everyone knows that


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Re: If you care about your health you should drink alcohol [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22162562 - 08/29/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Asante said:
We don't drink 50-250ml of pure solvent or any other alien chemical in one sitting. We don't do this with acetone or turpentine or chloroform.





water is a solvent, alcohol is far from a pure solvent, it's always diluted and often adulterated



everclear is pretty damn pure

@gresh wuttttttt


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Re: If you care about your health you should drink alcohol [Re: trvptamine]
    #22162573 - 08/29/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I hate drinking. It's such a shitty high and it makes people stupid, annoying, loud and dicks.
Boooo alcohol.


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Re: If you care about your health you should drink alcohol [Re: Adolin] * 1
    #22162584 - 08/29/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Gresh said:
as long as you smoke that cant happen bro.

the tobacco offsets the damage from the alcohol. everyone knows that





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    #22162666 - 08/29/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: If you care about your health you should drink alcohol [Re: BlackWidow]
    #22162679 - 08/29/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

lol excessive


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Re: If you care about your health you should drink alcohol [Re: Konyap] * 2
    #22162999 - 08/29/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

People are going to drink regardless of any so called proof on either end. Its a readily available drug to help people relax and free their mind of the stress of living in our society. Its socialy acceptable most everywhere.

There could be a guy wasted on a potentially dangerous amount of alcohol and reactions would be "haha look how fucked up he is" as those ppl take another drink. As apposed to maybe a guy tripping hard on acid "someone call the police this kids on drugs he needs help".

Theres so many excuses ppl can use to drink. If you want to drink then fine, but i personally believe most drinkers are just in denial about their use.

I personally hate alcohol its caused nothing but trouble for me. Its my devil drug, im in what would be considered my prime party phase in life...but i havent had a drink for almost a year :shrug: and plan never to again. It just cant be healthy. It turns ppl into douchebags and takes many lives.


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Re: If you care about your health you should drink alcohol [Re: Mr. Magic]
    #22163087 - 08/30/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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People are going to drink regardless of any so called proof on either end. Its a readily available drug to help people relax and free their mind of the stress of living in our society. Its socialy acceptable most everywhere.

There could be a guy wasted on a potentially dangerous amount of alcohol and reactions would be "haha look how fucked up he is" as those ppl take another drink. As apposed to maybe a guy tripping hard on acid "someone call the police this kids on drugs he needs help".

Theres so many excuses ppl can use to drink. If you want to drink then fine, but i personally believe most drinkers are just in denial about their use.

I personally hate alcohol its caused nothing but trouble for me. Its my devil drug, im in what would be considered my prime party phase in life...but i havent had a drink for almost a year :shrug: and plan never to again. It just cant be healthy. It turns ppl into douchebags and takes many lives.



how does one party without alc? You just use a shitton of E and coke?


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Re: If you care about your health you should drink alcohol [Re: Mr. Magic] * 1
    #22163089 - 08/30/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I do actually drink moderately, but I can't stand to be around drunk people, and it makes me feel like shit.  Like I will have 1-3 beers maybe once a week, usually just one.  I love the taste with certain foods, but have no desire to use it for recreation.  I think this is probably the first summer in my adult life where I didn't get drunk once, and I've never felt better.

Fuck alcohol.  It's worse than crack and heroin and all illegal drugs combined, some people just have shriveled their brains too much to recognize this :sadyes:


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Re: If you care about your health you should drink alcohol [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22163093 - 08/30/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah I do actually drink moderately, but I can't stand to be around drunk people, and it makes me feel like shit.  Like I will have 1-3 beers maybe once a week, usually just one.  I love the taste with certain foods, but have no desire to use it for recreation.  I think this is probably the first summer in my adult life where I didn't get drunk once, and I've never felt better.

Fuck alcohol.  It's worse than crack and heroin and all illegal drugs combined, some people just have shriveled their brains too much to recognize this :sadyes:



:raisemyglass:

Problem is, if you say it, people will attack you. Responsible use and moderation :thumbup:


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Re: If you care about your health you should drink alcohol [Re: topdog82]
    #22163192 - 08/30/15 12:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I just dont party. I dont like the scene. Ive never done either of those but id probably do E rather than alcohol. There isnt moderation for me when it comes to alcohol.

If you can drink in moderation then thats good nothing wrong with that. I cant stand to be arounde drunk ppl. Like i said they are usually being douchebags...i know i got like that when i drank.

I was in denial about it but like what was said above most ppl have just fried their brain enough to where they cant see the fact alcohol sucks and that they should take a step back and look at what theyre doing. I learned though.

Im talking about ppl that drink too often and dont see a problem with it. I just dont see what the appeal is to make an ass of yourself.

When i use to drink id easily become angry. I would throw shit hard and do things id never consider unless under the influence of alcohol. Im not an angry person at all sober, quite the opposite. I understand everyone isnt like that, but it just shouldnt be so readily available.

The age limit is pointless because basically anyone underage can get alcohol. It isnt hard, and idk thats disturbing to me.


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Re: If you care about your health you should drink alcohol [Re: Ihateyou]
    #22163212 - 08/30/15 01:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Ihateyou said:
Just pointing out that red wine has grapes that have antioxidants. Antioxidants are good for helping prevent memory loss and Alzheimer's disease.

I don't know this next part but I think it could help with preventing cholesterol from oxidizing too.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/02/150204184230.htm



You can get the substance in grapes, "resveratrol" at the health food store and not have to drink poison, (or eat sugar from grapes for that matter.)


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Re: If you care about your health you should drink alcohol [Re: endogenous]
    #22163324 - 08/30/15 02:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:sad: this thread is making me really think about stopping alcohol, it's done nothing good and with all the stuff i know about other drugs, alcohol is one of the ones i've done the most and researched the least. i hope some of the damage i have done can be reversed.

maybe nootropics can help? does anyone know if the science behind those drugs is solid?


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Re: If you care about your health you should drink alcohol [Re: 404] * 1
    #22163354 - 08/30/15 03:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know much about nootropics, but there are quite a bit of studies that show that the brain and nervous system repair themselves after alcohol use.

Although I don't know too much about alcohol abuse and the brain recovering, though I'm pretty sure it can.


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Re: If you care about your health you should drink alcohol [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22163377 - 08/30/15 03:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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"- One of the most contentious issues in the vast literature about alcohol consumption has been the consistent finding that those who don't drink tend to die sooner than those who do.

-  abstaining from alcohol does tend to increase one's risk of dying, even when you exclude former problem drinkers. The most shocking part? Abstainers' mortality rates are higher than those of heavy drinkers.

- Moderate alcohol use (especially when the beverage of choice is red wine) is thought to improve heart health, circulation and sociability, which can be important because people who are isolated don't have as many family members and friends who can notice and help treat health problems.

- Even though heavy drinking is associated with higher risk for cirrhosis and several types of cancer (particularly cancers in the mouth and esophagus), heavy drinkers are less likely to die than people who don't drink, even if they never had a problem with alcohol

- That said, the new study provides the strongest evidence yet that moderate drinking is not only fun but good for you. So make mine a double."




People bitch and moan here about alcohol being a hard drug, but for most people it is actually the complete opposite. You end up living longer and honestly a glass of wine a day is good for you. If I were a father and was raising a young boy, I would let him have a few sips of my beer here and there if he wanted to. If you were to ask me whether I would let him try some heroin, my answer would be hell fucking no.

People here act like booze is worse then heroin which is simply not the case for most people. Based on my research and the numerous studies I read, even heavy drinkers are outliving the average non drinkers.

Straight edge folk never have a good way to unwind and clearly people underestimate the power of self medicating with drinking. If I cared more about my health I would start drinking since honestly I rarely drink. I am thinking about starting to drink here and there for the health benefits. I mean, who doesn't want to live longer.

What do you guys think about all this?




Yep based purely on social aspect.

Alcohol = shit


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Re: If you care about your health you should drink alcohol [Re: Achillita]
    #22163383 - 08/30/15 03:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Nicotine is neuroprotective, and recent studies have show that it prevents the development of Alzheimer Disease. As does Cannabis.




funny since most forget everything when they smoke weed lol


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Re: If you care about your health you should drink alcohol [Re: Mr. Magic]
    #22163992 - 08/30/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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404 said:
:sad: this thread is making me really think about stopping alcohol, it's done nothing good and with all the stuff i know about other drugs, alcohol is one of the ones i've done the most and researched the least. i hope some of the damage i have done can be reversed.

maybe nootropics can help? does anyone know if the science behind those drugs is solid?



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Achillita said:
I don't know much about nootropics, but there are quite a bit of studies that show that the brain and nervous system repair themselves after alcohol use.

Although I don't know too much about alcohol abuse and the brain recovering, though I'm pretty sure it can.



Yes nootropics can reverse damage. Same with CBD

in fact, if you take piracetam the morning after drinking, the 'brain dead" feeling of your hangover goes away

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I just dont party. I dont like the scene. Ive never done either of those but id probably do E rather than alcohol. There isnt moderation for me when it comes to alcohol.

If you can drink in moderation then thats good nothing wrong with that. I cant stand to be arounde drunk ppl. Like i said they are usually being douchebags...i know i got like that when i drank.

I was in denial about it but like what was said above most ppl have just fried their brain enough to where they cant see the fact alcohol sucks and that they should take a step back and look at what theyre doing. I learned though.

Im talking about ppl that drink too often and dont see a problem with it. I just dont see what the appeal is to make an ass of yourself.

When i use to drink id easily become angry. I would throw shit hard and do things id never consider unless under the influence of alcohol. Im not an angry person at all sober, quite the opposite. I understand everyone isnt like that, but it just shouldnt be so readily available.

The age limit is pointless because basically anyone underage can get alcohol. It isnt hard, and idk thats disturbing to me.



I feel this generally. But being in college its almost a social obligation. I tried to quit but alcohol is EVERYWHERE

Generally speaking its a waste. I haven't gone beyond 5 drinks in ages though. If I am going to drink, I figure I should just drink minimally

it also kills my workout recovery


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Re: If you care about your health you should drink alcohol [Re: endogenous]
    #22164049 - 08/30/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Ihateyou said:
Just pointing out that red wine has grapes that have antioxidants. Antioxidants are good for helping prevent memory loss and Alzheimer's disease.

I don't know this next part but I think it could help with preventing cholesterol from oxidizing too.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/02/150204184230.htm



You can get the substance in grapes, "resveratrol" at the health food store and not have to drink poison, (or eat sugar from grapes for that matter.)





everything is a poison


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