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Re: Desire [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22159177 - 08/29/15 02:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i can tell you one thing, your happiness is a dream, satisfaction is satis-fiction, whether it's big bucks or simple pleasures, it's all a dream, you've made it all up
from a freak who has taken psychedelics every day for the last 7 months i'll give you another word of advice, it takes courage to radiate your essence


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Desire [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22159261 - 08/29/15 03:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just be still and watch it, openly question whether pursuing the desire will bring about lasting happiness.

If you see that following the desire won't lead to happiness then you won't follow it, of course the deeper the habit the harder it is to break the cycle, but the same logic applies, the more you see it isn't going to satisfy you the less you'll be drawn to pursue it.


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Re: Desire [Re: Chronic7]
    #22161888 - 08/29/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I was going to eat dinner, but as it will not bring lasting happiness then it has no value.


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Re: Desire [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #22163729 - 08/30/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:

You're probably just joking but still... while eating is only a temporary satisfaction as in a few hours we always just get hungry again, it could still help to bring lasting happiness, as without eating regularly you wouldn't last very long so wouldn't even have the opportunity to experience happiness.

I'm not suggesting to throw logic out the window, just if like the OP someone has a desire that arises but you want to move beyond it then just be honest with yourself, is that desire going to fulfill you?

Your sig pic lol, did you see this?



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Re: Desire [Re: Chronic7]
    #22169117 - 08/31/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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MarkostheGnostic said:
Very ritualized religious life seems to be robotic to me and not conducive to living the Middle Way. I do understand that lots of people do not want to be free in an existential way, taking personal responsibility for every act, and so these people take comfort in prescribed ritual. One does not have to think or question, just follow the dictates of the faith. This is the comfort of religion that I see as the Marxist "opiate of the people." A life aimed at the Middle Way requires "Right Effort" and is anything but comforting. One is often at odds with the world and frequently alone. Quelling of desire is the perpetual crucifixion of the ego on the desires of the world, but yet, there is a "peace which passes understanding."



I hear you man, makes perfect sense. Especially when you say 'One is often at odds with the world and frequently alone'. It's difficult not to self medicate when feeling this way, yet I know that one must hold fast to this path if one is to achieve "peace which passes understanding." - and equally I feel a clear and sober mind must be held.

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CosmicJoke said:
i'll give you another word of advice, it takes courage to radiate your essence



Can you expand on this please CJ? I think I know where you're coming from but would really appreciate if you could clarify.

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Acintya said:
Just be still and watch it, openly question whether pursuing the desire will bring about lasting happiness.



That's a fine piece of advice there Acintya, in fact I think that 'being still and watching it' is something that works on just about every level of inner discontent. It's worked wonders for me these last couple of days. Thank you.


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Re: Desire [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22169341 - 08/31/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:
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CosmicJoke said:
i'll give you another word of advice, it takes courage to radiate your essence



Can you expand on this please CJ? I think I know where you're coming from but would really appreciate if you could clarify.





I can feel authenticity pouring out of my heart these days...  It shouldn't be so hard to be yourself, that's my point.  So Be Here Now, eh?


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Desire [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #22169379 - 08/31/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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CosmicJoke said:
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Jokeshopbeard said:
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CosmicJoke said:
i'll give you another word of advice, it takes courage to radiate your essence



Can you expand on this please CJ? I think I know where you're coming from but would really appreciate if you could clarify.



I can feel authenticity pouring out of my heart these days...  It shouldn't be so hard to be yourself, that's my point.  So Be Here Now, eh?



Yeah I hear you. It's pretty hard to be that authentic when often being so, IMO, will mean job loss, home loss, distance from others, etc.

It definitely shouldn't be so hard, especially when one is working hard at being as kind and compassionate as one can be. I guess the trick is to just choose your time & place carefully!!


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Re: Desire [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #22171763 - 08/31/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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CosmicJoke said:
i can tell you one thing, your happiness is a dream, satisfaction is satis-fiction, whether it's big bucks or simple pleasures, it's all a dream, you've made it all up
from a freak who has taken psychedelics every day for the last 7 months i'll give you another word of advice, it takes courage to radiate your essence



what kind of  psychedelics?




Edited by CosmicJoke (09/01/15 10:08 AM)


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Re: Desire [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22173341 - 09/01/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

LSD, MDMA, DMT, Mescaline HCL, MXE, & 2C-B are the first to come to mind, I'm sure there were others :nicesmile:


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Desire [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #22174002 - 09/01/15 01:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You've been dosing daily for 7 months? :shocked:


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Re: Desire [Re: cez]
    #22174093 - 09/01/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Not today, I'm out for once :lol: But yes, mostly vaped DMT.  I'd say 3g of DMT, 3g of MDMA, 2g of Methamphetamine, 30 hits of LSD, 1g Mescaline HCL, 5g of MXE, and 1.5g of 2C-B


Excessive? Perhaps, but I do know I persistently cry less about problems than all of my friends.  These drugs have been the most hiliarious, raunchy, educating substances I have ever encountered.  They can go gripe out about work to destress, I'm getting blitzed and furthering my education :smile:


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Desire [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #22174543 - 09/01/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

desire is only "bad" if you believe that what you desire will "complete you" or some shit.
otherwise it's completely harmless.

as long as you recognize that the chain of desire is endless, you're good. it's only when you put HOPE in a desire that you get fucked by it. expect nothing.


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Re: Desire [Re: resonant111]
    #22174570 - 09/01/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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resonant111 said:
desire is only "bad" if you believe that what you desire will "complete you" or some shit.
otherwise it's completely harmless.




I'm not so sure on that last part. I find they (desires) cause me suffering unless I actively focus my mind away from them. It'd probably cause me suffering to give in to them too.


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Re: Desire [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #22175701 - 09/01/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Not today, I'm out for once :lol: But yes, mostly vaped DMT.  I'd say 3g of DMT, 3g of MDMA, 2g of Methamphetamine, 30 hits of LSD, 1g Mescaline HCL, 5g of MXE, and 1.5g of 2C-B


Excessive? Perhaps, but I do know I persistently cry less about problems than all of my friends.  These drugs have been the most hiliarious, raunchy, educating substances I have ever encountered.  They can go gripe out about work to destress, I'm getting blitzed and furthering my education :smile:




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Re: Desire [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22175988 - 09/01/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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resonant111 said:
desire is only "bad" if you believe that what you desire will "complete you" or some shit.
otherwise it's completely harmless.




I'm not so sure on that last part. I find they (desires) cause me suffering unless I actively focus my mind away from them. It'd probably cause me suffering to give in to them too.




so when you feel hungry and want to eat a hamburger, that causes suffering in you? :wink:
man, that must be a tough tough life. :sun:


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Re: Desire [Re: resonant111]
    #22175995 - 09/01/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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resonant111 said:
desire is only "bad" if you believe that what you desire will "complete you" or some shit.
otherwise it's completely harmless.




I'm not so sure on that last part. I find they (desires) cause me suffering unless I actively focus my mind away from them. It'd probably cause me suffering to give in to them too.




so when you feel hungry and want to eat a hamburger, that causes suffering in you? :wink:
man, that must be a tough tough life. :sun:


LOL:smugjerry:


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