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LogicaL Chaos
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Re: Psychedelics are overrated [Re: SnowDaze]
#22153676 - 08/27/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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SnowDaze said: Bassfreak sux
How sure can u be that its bassfreak?
Seems too lenghtly of posts to be him.
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zeebo48
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Psychedelics are my favorite because I love the feeling of being high on them, I see stuff and my body feels great and everything is funny. I love it.
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LogicaL Chaos said: psychedelics can be both fun and recreational AND deep, introspective and thought-provoking.
It all depends on your state of mind and your setting.
Ive had deep introspective experiences on alcohol. It all depends on you and the trip will become more spiritual/insightful than just fun/recreational.
Can you tell me about your introspective alcohol experiences? I am wondering if alcohol can be used in low doses as an entheogen, to increase relaxation and quiet the mind. I drank one beer yesterday after using a lot of psychedelics and not drinking at all for several months (even when I do drink, it's never more than a couple beers/shots these days). Anyway, what I noticed was that my mind got really quiet afterward and it seemed to level me out a bit, whereas before my head was a bit up in the clouds from recent cactus and DMT trips.
I know there was one Buddhist teacher, Trungpa Rinpoche, who was an alcoholic and believed alcohol, when consumed mindfully, aided in meditation. Was this just an excuse for his alcoholism or is there truth in it? Who is to say?
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Re: Psychedelics are overrated [Re: zeebo48]
#22153897 - 08/27/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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zeebo48 said: Psychedelics are my favorite because I love the feeling of being high on them, I see stuff and my body feels great and everything is funny. I love it.
Pretty much sums it up, the rest is all after the fact.
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LogicaL Chaos
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Re: Psychedelics are overrated [Re: Deviate]
#22154065 - 08/27/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Like psychedelics, the right mind set and setting can aid an alcohol "experience".
I only drank maybe 2 beers, and i was outside, alone, looking at the stars, then i started having introsepctive thoughts about the Universe, life in other places of the cosmos, my place in this Universe and what my life was worth. I couldnt help think about my current place in life and if i liked the direction i was going. I believe my psychedelic use helped me get to this calm, deep state while on those beers.
I can see how alcohol could be used for meditation. Its all in dosage and right mindset plus a peaceful setting can make a quite zen-like mood. alcohol can definitely quiet the mind.
But enough about alcohol, this TPE and its not a topiic for here.
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Re: Psychedelics are overrated [Re: KillahBudz]
#22154231 - 08/27/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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KillahBudz said: I never understand why people put psychedelics on such a pedestal. I've had a couple awesome acid and mushroom trips but honestly all they do is make me laugh and feel kinda funny. All you guys that are like "oh mushrooms taught me this", or "acid taught me that" are kinda just full of yourselves IMO. How can you not see that your just doing mental masturbation and you're literally the same person you were before you took the trip.
They're just drugs
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Re: Psychedelics are overrated [Re: KillahBudz]
#22154404 - 08/27/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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KillahBudz said: I never understand why people put psychedelics on such a pedestal. I've had a couple awesome acid and mushroom trips but honestly all they do is make me laugh and feel kinda funny. All you guys that are like "oh mushrooms taught me this", or "acid taught me that" are kinda just full of yourselves IMO. How can you not see that your just doing mental masturbation and you're literally the same person you were before you took the trip.
They're just drugs
 You must not be taking enough, if all they do is "make you laugh" and "feel kinda funny". Psilocybin actually changes the way your brain operates, creating new links between neurons that did not exist before the dose, so saying that you/we are the same person than before the trip is inaccurate. Maybe you never understand why they are taken so seriously and are "put on a pedestal" is because you may have never experienced a high enough dose to show you the true power of an intense psychedelic experience.
I can't speak for LSD (or any of the many others that are still being used), but I'm pretty certain that psilocybin mushrooms have been used for thousands of years, by many a shaman, in many cultures, all over the world. To say "they are just drugs", IMO, is somewhat of an insult to those who have devoted their lives to helping others, with the insights that psilocybin mushrooms have wrought.
Not to mention that many people believe mushrooms are responsible for the evolution of languages.
And I don't even want to get into the influences mushrooms have had on religion(s).
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Re: Psychedelics are overrated [Re: KillahBudz]
#22154409 - 08/27/15 11:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You just don't know how to trip right. trphrt
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Re: Psychedelics are overrated [Re: KillahBudz]
#22154460 - 08/27/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Each to their own, if you don't get anything from it simply don't do them.
However a lot of people do.
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Re: Psychedelics are overrated [Re: KillahBudz]
#22154686 - 08/28/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psychedelics have always changed me afterwards in the fact that they make me look at current situations in my life from many different angles causing me to weed out the negative mentally and phyiscally. I like to think of it as a mental cobweb cleanse of sorts. Most psychedelics can take me to this state of introspective thought PSychedelics arent all just about being high and seeing things warp and all that fun. PSychedelics have definitely changed the way I view the world I think your full of it saying they cant change you haha for real changed in the best of ways.
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after abusing them you lose the magic
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Re: Psychedelics are overrated [Re: xammy]
#22154955 - 08/28/15 05:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dunno what kind of pyschedelics you are using if all they make you feel is "kinda funny"... maybe you are getting some trash drugs.
Pycedelics alter the way you think. Any time you are thinking in a way you havent thought of things before, you are bound to learn something.
I feel sorry for anyone who takes these substances and feel the way OP does about them
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LogicaL Chaos said:
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SnowDaze said: Bassfreak sux
How sure can u be that its bassfreak?
Seems too lenghtly of posts to be him.
He made a thread about giving his dog shrooms in a pub thread...it was much more obvious in that one....also, his reddit name is killahbass....compare to killahbudz?...any resemblance?
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In the feed shrooms to his dog thread, he said that he enjoyed mushrooms so muc hand wondered if his dog would too.
First way to be found out as a troll, is to contradict yourself like that so quickly.
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Re: Psychedelics are overrated [Re: HardTrippin]
#22155342 - 08/28/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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HardTrippin said: Only idiots think psychedelics are only useful for recreational purposes.
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As a teenager, I had two best friends. The three of us did everything together. Getting stoned was our ritual - fun times. But one of them, Paul, just didn't buy into the psychedelic experience. The three of us would trip, me and Eric would have an awesome time while Paul would sit there bored. He was tripping, but it just wasn't doing anything for him.
One time we tripped at the beach. Me and Eric were fascinated by the seashells. They're like magical little pieces of art showing the landscape of a planet in another universe. While in awe, we show him a shell - he throws it down, laughs at us and says "It's just a shell, they're everywhere" We stand there feeling like idiots. He laughs at us because we're stupid.
So, going forward, we excluded him from our psychedelic journeys. He just didn't get it. I guess his brain was wired differently. Some people just don't get anything out of psychedelics.
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Re: Psychedelics are overrated [Re: Zombi3]
#22155359 - 08/28/15 08:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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HardTrippin said: Only idiots think psychedelics are only useful for recreational purposes.
It's a pretty common misconception. When I first introduced my friends to psyches, they thought it'd be fun and mindblowing and pretty much that. But that all changed pretty damn quickly.
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Re: Psychedelics are overrated [Re: Universe]
#22155424 - 08/28/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Universe said: As a teenager, I had two best friends. The three of us did everything together. Getting stoned was our ritual - fun times. But one of them, Paul, just didn't buy into the psychedelic experience. The three of us would trip, me and Eric would have an awesome time while Paul would sit there bored. He was tripping, but it just wasn't doing anything for him.
One time we tripped at the beach. Me and Eric were fascinated by the seashells. They're like magical little pieces of art showing the landscape of a planet in another universe. While in awe, we show him a shell - he throws it down, laughs at us and says "It's just a shell, they're everywhere" We stand there feeling like idiots. He laughs at us because we're stupid.
So, going forward, we excluded him from our psychedelic journeys. He just didn't get it. I guess his brain was wired differently. Some people just don't get anything out of psychedelics.
That kind of person exists everywhere. They're the guy who thinks he floats above everyone else and understands the workings of the universe so everything is lame or dull.
Fuck that guy.
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Re: Psychedelics are overrated [Re: PrimalSoup]
#22156047 - 08/28/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lmfao!
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Re: Psychedelics are overrated [Re: MoxyOx]
#22156149 - 08/28/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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MoxyOx said:
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Universe said: As a teenager, I had two best friends. The three of us did everything together. Getting stoned was our ritual - fun times. But one of them, Paul, just didn't buy into the psychedelic experience. The three of us would trip, me and Eric would have an awesome time while Paul would sit there bored. He was tripping, but it just wasn't doing anything for him.
One time we tripped at the beach. Me and Eric were fascinated by the seashells. They're like magical little pieces of art showing the landscape of a planet in another universe. While in awe, we show him a shell - he throws it down, laughs at us and says "It's just a shell, they're everywhere" We stand there feeling like idiots. He laughs at us because we're stupid.
So, going forward, we excluded him from our psychedelic journeys. He just didn't get it. I guess his brain was wired differently. Some people just don't get anything out of psychedelics.
That kind of person exists everywhere. They're the guy who thinks he floats above everyone else and understands the workings of the universe so everything is lame or dull.
Fuck that guy.
.....Yeah....Fuck that guy
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