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80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA!
    #22149486 - 08/26/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:wonka:......so.....HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

... so me and my buddy came by some 80X concentrate salvia of the purple variety. We had other options in the 20 or 40 or 60 X varieties but thought because we've been doing a lot of tripping lately that 80 sounded like a good choice.....

...1st mistake.....

.... so we got back to the crib a little later and got everything mellowed out put on some nice Howard Wales for that groovy sound. Pulled the shades and proceeded to load approximately half of the .5 Gram that was in the little purple container.

....mistake #2.....


.... I should have come on shroomery and done a little more research but I've seen those videos on YouTube of people straight freaking out and I just figured they were some crazy hillbillies that we're going way too far out there I mean for christ sake this was only like .2 -.3 grams on top of a little weed it didn't look like it could possibly do that much. I try to research everything I do in depth and try to have an understanding of what I'm getting into and do pretty steady doses of mushrooms at the 7 to 8 gram level and five to ten hits of acid when I trip and I'm always feeling good and wanting to go further. I mean really, what could this little amount of Salvia on top of my bong hit really do?...:wonka:

....3rd mistake.......

....lights dimmed....mellow tunes.....let's do this!

... I fired up the lighter and put it to the surface of the mixture and burned and pulled the whole thing and cleared the carb!.....

...final mistake....................

I exhaled and felt a rush for wave of psychedelic energy start to flow up through my body.

..... the next thing I remember was my entire existence as though everything in my vision....(my existence)..... as though everything in my field of vision was a monitor of some sorts and that whole square image or existence was literally spiraling to the left and around into the center like an over the top spiral back into itself definitely with the energy moving in a left direction.

...I HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE TERRIFIED. ........ :puddingpop:

.....here's the sensation....

...  My existence as I explain it continued to careen and spiral to the left and into itself I was all of the sudden being flung into the corner of a room as my existence tumbled over itself and gravity still pushing down in my world sent me inexplicably spinning and spiraling in that leftward direction falling into empty corners of rooms and then literally having the room walls close on me like I'm in between the pages of a book....

....HELP!....... :aliceshocker:

....again and again I was violently flung into a corner as the walls folded in on me.

.....again and again....WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ME!.... :blewmeanie:

..... as my existence continue to spiral again and again and again I could see the edge of the existence as its square or rectangular form spiral to the left and became smaller as it continued down the wormhole and it was layer after layer of existence pouring down the wormhole. Like pages in a book but infinite or like if you flayed cards out on a table where there are overlapping but it was infinite.

....AHHHHHHHH......HELP...:trippnballs:

.. the layers of the existence were slamming me between their pages and I was reemerged just to be slammed by yet another page!  It was the most complete out of body experience I have ever had but absolutely f****** dissociative.....

.... part of me had this idea in the back of my mind that I had somehow slip between the cracks and fell into some kind of wormhole that left me hanging between dimensions. I mean I'm into the whole thing with the idea that there is multiple alternate dimensions in an infinite nature and part of me feels like I was able to see or feel the dimensions as they infinitely collapsed on each other for as I said like thumbing the pages of a book with infinite pages.....

... I had a distinct sensation as though for that moment I was able to fully sense those alternate realities and it was just too f****** much for my feeble mind and consciousness to truly handle. I mean, what the f***!

.. In a way I felt as though I now understand that we must truly increase our consciousness to the get to the next level because if we don't have a developed consciousness there's no f****** way you can handle what is truly out there. It's like our minds are on some sort of survival mode because they understand that the experience is just too f****** incomprehensible 4 most people to comprehend.....

...sorry if this is long....gotta tell this...

...OH MY GOD!...HELP!:vibin:

.... I started to hear voices and had a feeling as though I was at some hippie festival and got completely f***** up and was ass over heels out in the bushes with people being like ...is he ok?... hey bro are you alright?stay calm dude! Ect. I was like oh my god am I going to come to in some medical tent!

..... finally there was something near the center of my vision that wasn't spinning uncontrollably into oblivion and it was a hand holding a bong and a voice that said hey man smoke a bong hit! Not really what I needed at that point! Then finally I could see and arm and finally the torso and face of my friend and I latched onto him with such desperation that you would think he was the last person on earth and I haven't seen anybody in 10 years! I felt like it was the only way out of this perpetual spiral. He wasn't spinning and I needed to latch on to him he was the only way to get out. I was straight bear hugging him like some long lost brother which is exactly what he was at that point! Lol

... with a little bit of my vision stabilizing I put my hands on the floor and managed to stand up and sort of force the issue with my crazy spiraling dissociative falling on the floor s***. It was kind of crazy it was like the left half of my vision was stabilized but the whole right half including my body still wanted to spiral up and over the top and back into the middle. The physical sensation was so f****** intense I can't f****** believe I was feeling that way. I just can't get over how strong that physical feeling was I mean I've had lots of situations where I've been laid out and s*** was spinning but this was like literally my whole existence with spinning and just throwing me all over the place like some horrible erratic frenetic ride!

....like Rick James says ...."Salvia is a powerful drug!":wonka:

... I stumbled around the house for a couple more minutes and lay down in my bed and was mostly back to normal within another five minutes after that. Other than integrating what the f*** just happened to me!

..... my body was looking at me with the craziest look of astonishment like what the f*** just happened and I can't believe it! he said I crashed into every wall he had to grab all the glass and anything fragile.... but it was too late cuz I already knocked a bong off the table and there was broken glass on the floor that I ended up f****** kind of rolling in and got a small cut on my back so there was blood on the floor and everything! He said at one point I threw myself forward into a somersault into the kitchen table and in my trip I remember that I was diving for a corner as the walls fold it in on me and then I went into a fetal position as I just said oh f*** here it comes just f****** get ready for it as existence is about to crush you! Oh f****** god!

..... I'm on the verge of venturing into high dose mushrooms and LSD and very interested in cactus and DMT. Has anyone ever had such a dizzying and dissociative trip on classic indoles? I want to trip high dose but for f*** sake man I don't want to be trapped in anything like that for an extended period of time that sounds pretty f****** hellish!:eek:

.... basically I f***** up and didn't respect salvia and it clipped my nuts pretty f****** good!:wizardfail:


......Trippin' ain't for the faint of heart.....:bigyesnod:


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22149539 - 08/26/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Namyellit] * 1
    #22149550 - 08/26/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I fucking hate salvia. It just throws you into a disorientating horrible head space ime. If I wanna go that far I'll just smoke dmt and have an enlightened trip. It really is a drug I dislike


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22149560 - 08/26/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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damn




Indeed.... I hope it isn't too long and turns people away I really need some feedback on this from experience trippers...


....Help me integrate this please....
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I fucking hate salvia. It just throws you into a disorientating horrible head space ime. If I wanna go that far I'll just smoke dmt and have an enlightened trip. It really is a drug I dislike




....it was kinda horrible....

.... I really want to try some DMT badly! Just to be clear the DMT experience doesn't have you in such a bad head space and falling all over your crib and s***!? Right?

  I want to go as far as possible but whatever the f*** this was isn't where I want to be because it's just so f****** painful and seriously all that falling down you could really hurt yourself! I'm f****** sore on several places on my body and I don't even know what the f*** happened!


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22149588 - 08/27/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Visually speaking nothings topped my ssalvia trip, but the physical sensations are just too much. Not my favorite psychedelic but i think its a worthwhile experience.


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: DurgaDurg]
    #22149594 - 08/27/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Visually speaking nothings topped my ssalvia trip, but the physical sensations are just too much. Not my favorite psychedelic but i think its a worthwhile experience.





.... can you ever prepare for an experience like that for f*** sake? I have to say I didn't get much learning out of it other than learning that I did too much! Lol


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22149597 - 08/27/15 12:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yep. I remember when I dI'd salvia that ONE time.

That was a great read though. Thx for the write up.


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #22149637 - 08/27/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Dmt will have you in a world of beauty. I cried when I first came down after blasting off it was so amazing, it's like having the gods pour a cleansing rain over your soul. Not like salvia where you're like a chicken running around with its head cut off in fear only to come to and not remember shit except for how horrible it was.


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22149652 - 08/27/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Yep. I remember when I dI'd salvia that ONE time.

That was a great read though. Thx for the write up.




...thanks Bro!....was intense....
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Dmt will have you in a world of beauty. I cried when I first came down after blasting off it was so amazing, it's like having the gods pour a cleansing rain over your soul. Not like salvia where you're like a chicken running around with its head cut off in fear only to come to and not remember shit except for how horrible it was.





....I want THAT!...

....great description. ....lmfao!:awethumb:


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: wildernessjunkie] * 4
    #22149654 - 08/27/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

80x extracts.... The real reason why people hate salvia is because they take too much nearly every freaking time. For a plain leaf salvia trip that's strong you only need about .5 grams. For a 5x extract, and for the same strong effects, you need to take .08-.15 grams...

80x extract is OVERKILL. I did the math, with an extract like that, you're supposed to smoke 5 mg for a moderately strong dose.

You smoked WAYYY more than that. Just with any other psychedelic, you need to work your way up from low doses. If you took a 50 tabs of LSD for your first time and flipped shit(and you definitely would) you'd probably not wanna try LSD again. But in reality it's your fault, not the psychedelics.

I mean you took 50x the amount(probably more) than what would have made you trip. Most people do the same thing, and then go on and condemn salvia as some monster.


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Achillita]
    #22149668 - 08/27/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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80x extracts.... The real reason why people hate salvia is because they take too much nearly every freaking time. For a plain leaf salvia trip that's strong you only need about .5 grams. For a 5x extract, and for the same strong effects, you need to take .08-.15 grams...

80x extract is OVERKILL. I did the math, with an extract like that, you're supposed to smoke 5 mg for a moderately strong dose.

You smoked WAYYY more than that. Just with any other psychedelic, you need to work your way up from low doses. If you took a 50 tabs of LSD for your first time and flipped shit(and you definitely would) you'd probably not wanna try LSD again. But in reality it's your fault, not the psychedelics.

I mean you took 50x the amount(probably more) than what would have made you trip. Most people do the same thing, and then go on and condemn salvia as some monster.




....I agree.....total overkill. ...50x too much!..I feel quite ignorant. ....straight overdose! Yeah...I smoked rougly 40mg.....damn......no wonder!:ducklol::wizardfail:


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22149679 - 08/27/15 01:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I summeresulted :bigyesnod:into my dining table...... :manofapproval:  :whatwhatwhat:  :okiapprove:  :nojustno:


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22149687 - 08/27/15 01:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just be happy it wasn't like this


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22149692 - 08/27/15 01:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

IMO, the mass selling of extracts is what caused much of the reason it has been banned in so many states. All of my salvia trips were purely amazing. On one of the more fun trips, I shot out of earth into space and started to bounce off of each of the planets. until I reached pluto and got sucked back into my body. I was just smiling after that too.

Salvia is awesome, but you just have to respect it. Start low and not be stupid with your dose. With any psych, you just gotta find that sweet spot.

Honestly, every person I've given salvia to(and at the right dose) has loved the experience.


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Achillita]
    #22149723 - 08/27/15 01:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

When I took it, it was amazing as far as the head space. I was instantly catapulted elsewhere. The reason I don't like it is because of the uncomfortable physical sensations it produced.

I felt like I was being slapped around, and was severely overheated.

As I came too, my survival instincts kicked in and I crawled into the shower and turned on the cold water. Clothes and all, the only thing going through my mind was to cool down ASAP. Granted, it was all in my head, but it was real enough at the time.

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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22149737 - 08/27/15 01:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I avoid salvia -extracts as the plain leaves make me trip. One bowl of ground leave is enough to rip my senses of time and space appart, at least for a minute or two.

I know these sensations of beeing pulled or twisted into a spiral. I also understand this feeling of multiple dimensions, overlapping themselves in or beeing revealed by this spiral -twist. :smile:


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    #22149757 - 08/27/15 01:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Voodoo, if you give salvia a shot again(which I suggest you do), start with a 5x extract or plain leaf. Those are a lot easier to measure out.


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Achillita]
    #22149763 - 08/27/15 02:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That stuff is no joke for sure. I had my absolute most powerful experience ever off the 80x you speak of.
I went to a world I've never seen before, a place I still can't explain. I learned my lesson, salvia commands respect and she better fucking get it,lol!


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Pandemoon] * 1
    #22150004 - 08/27/15 06:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I avoid salvia -extracts as the plain leaves make me trip. One bowl of ground leave is enough to rip my senses of time and space appart, at least for a minute or two.

I know these sensations of beeing pulled or twisted into a spiral. I also understand this feeling of multiple dimensions, overlapping themselves in or beeing revealed by this spiral -twist. :smile:
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    #22150111 - 08/27/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I did Salvia once before and only once.  It was leaves.  Lasted probably 5-8 minutes.  I felt like I was being sucked into my couch, like melting in and I was grabbing for my girl's arm who was now a frog but my hand kept going through her arm like she was made of clay.  Weird shit.  Not a fan personally.


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    #22150177 - 08/27/15 07:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Just be happy it wasn't like this






.... saw that video a long time ago! Lol. I should have watched some videos to refresh me on the powerful impact of this substance! Funny though, after watching that video, I sort of understand what that dude was experiencing and why he would act such a way. Gnosis brings deeper understanding one way or another. :-):mindexpanding:


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    #22150196 - 08/27/15 07:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I avoid salvia -extracts as the plain leaves make me trip. One bowl of ground leave is enough to rip my senses of time and space appart, at least for a minute or two.

I know these sensations of beeing pulled or twisted into a spiral. I also understand this feeling of multiple dimensions, overlapping themselves in or beeing revealed by this spiral -twist. :smile:
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Plain leaf for the win!

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IMO, the mass selling of extracts is what caused much of the reason it has been banned in so many states. All of my salvia trips were purely amazing. On one of the more fun trips, I shot out of earth into space and started to bounce off of each of the planets. until I reached pluto and got sucked back into my body. I was just smiling after that too.

Salvia is awesome, but you just have to respect it. Start low and not be stupid with your dose. With any psych, you just gotta find that sweet spot.

Honestly, every person I've given salvia to(and at the right dose) has loved the experience.





.... I gotta say that the concentrate stuff is kind of ridiculously strong to just be selling out of head shops.... I mean for f*** sake dude I'm an experienced tripper I can imagine what that would do to somebody that was a noob! I felt like a helpless child lost forever in Oblivion as I had somehow slipped between the cracks of reality!

  How the f*** does some 18 year old kid integrate that?....yeah...plain leaf


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    #22150225 - 08/27/15 08:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I fucking hate salvia. It just throws you into a disorientating horrible head space ime. If I wanna go that far I'll just smoke dmt and have an enlightened trip. It really is a drug I dislike



:whathesaid:....I don't like anything that brings inanimate objects to life ...I consider it a deleriant more than a psychedelic...just no good head space for me at all...only confusion.


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    #22150267 - 08/27/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I fucking hate salvia. It just throws you into a disorientating horrible head space ime. If I wanna go that far I'll just smoke dmt and have an enlightened trip. It really is a drug I dislike



:whathesaid:....I don't like anything that brings inanimate objects to life ...I consider it a deleriant more than a psychedelic...just no good head space for me at all...only confusion.




....yeah,  I was delirious. ...had no idea where I was...:wizardfail:


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    #22151146 - 08/27/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I tried that 80x years ago with two friends.o e of them thought he died.

He fell over onto my floor and didn't move for a bit. Then he slowly got up and looked over at us and in a very nervous voice says "guys I thought I died."

Another time I smoked some plain homegrown leaf with some herb inside by a mellow fire. Had some very beautiful closed eye visions of abstract nature art and scenery from jungles and forests. It was great.

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    #22151957 - 08/27/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hyperspace welcomes you - and totally fucks your shit up in the process.  Maybe a bit too much. 



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    #22153014 - 08/27/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

OMG voodoochild, I'm glad you're back in one piece, somersaulting into tables wtf?

I have to admit that what you did was classic. Like many others before you, you have found THE way to do it wrong. Too strong, too much, and ill prepared. These things are what makes people hate salvia. Be glad you didn't hurt yourself even worse.

I did have a few good laughs with your report though, since some of it was recognizable. The one time (so far) that I went bad on salvia I remember turning 2 dimensional too. You say being stuck between the pages of a book. I think this is what time is like on salvia: a series of discrete 2 dimensional screenshots that fly by at incredible speed. Time's normal continuity makes place for these discrete pages of .. a book of existence. Does that make sense?

What surprised me in your story was that it seemed as if you didn't actually lose your sense of self. I remember completely forgetting A:who I was, B:that I ever was someone, C: that anybody ever was anyone, D:etc, etc...

Anyway, as I've written elsewhere, I do still love Lady S. I just stick to 5x extract, sometimes a little 10x, more than strong enough. The more respect I showed her, the better she treated me. Calmness, silence, darkness, sensory deprivation, meditation, even prayer, these are the things that make her happy.

For reference: 50mg of 5x does nothing to me, between 75 and 100mg a light trip, around 125mg I have what I call half-OBE's. That is when your head, arms, and torso go out of body, but your legs and buttocks remain on the couch. I find this to be very pleasant. 150mg makes me trip as hard as I usually want. Beyond 200 or 250mg it starts to be unpleasant. More dissociation, less psychedelics. I'm not sure I can extrapolate this curve. There may be an "island" of psychedelics further up the dose curve. I'm just not comfortable going there...

One day I should make a journal page or something, and create a place where I put all my tips on salvia together with some informative trip reports.

Hope you want to try it again some other time, just be little more careful

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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Hanz]
    #22154283 - 08/27/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The last time I smoked saliva, probably almost 4 years ago,I did a sub dose. As I lay back on my buddy's bed I could feel myself sinking into it, but I stopped about halfway in.  Not sure what exactly was happening, I tried pulling my head up off the pillow and I had the whole salvia super gravity happen and it was difficult lifting my head.  I looked across the room at my friends and I didn't know who they were or how I knew them or how I got into that particular situation.  This didn't bother me at all, having had some drug experience prior, so I just lay back, closed my eyes and tried to enjoy the Boards of Canada that I'd put on for the trip (Dayvan Cowboy).  I love BoC sober, but during that trip it sounded very abrasive and I didn't enjoy it like I thought I would.

I may get interested enough to experiment with saliva again, but who knows.  one of my buddies who was there that same night absolutely loves salvia, but won't even smoke bud or do any psychedelics.  Big thing I've learned throughout my psychonautic adventures is that everyone is different. :thumbup:


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    #22154965 - 08/28/15 05:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yea the one time I tried it I spent the day freaking myself out with trip reports. I was chewing a quid and must have had a panic attack I managed to convince myself that it was workimg and I was sent to a parallel dimension before I spit it out :rofl:

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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: mushpunx]
    #22155258 - 08/28/15 07:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yea salvia extract is weird af smoked 30x a couple times 5-6 years ago and once more recently .its really hit or miss ime but when you get it for real it just rape you out of no where .The body high and the confusion is just not comparable to anything

Every time in the trip I'm like wtf Am I doing here again? how did I got out last time?? Huge déjà vue feeling everytime I return. It's like a nightmare you're visiting again but don't remember the end of the story. I always feel like I need to do something the get out  , like my arms being a contraption ,like a key and if I twist them in a certain way it unlocks reality .but it's so hard and my arms don't even feels like arms and is so more complicated when you're in it rofl

Really fuck up shit, but it's really a unique experience but I'll stick to plain leaf now on .It really sucks tho that possession and cultivation gonna be illegal in 2016 in Canada I'm seriously mad af :mad2:


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    #22155265 - 08/28/15 07:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Either stock up, or get a plant. I have my own salvia plant(as the plants are legal, but not dried leaves) and quite enjoy growing it.


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    #22155285 - 08/28/15 08:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yea already have a couple plants in my front yard were they don't get lots of direct sun, they grow so well outdoor :yesnod: just mad because it's gonna be criminal to do so next year , just sounds stupid to me


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    #22155296 - 08/28/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Salvia plants are so un incriminating though. All you have to say is that it's a sage plant, and no one will question you. If they ask why(you can say it's a decoraton sage), just say it makes blooms pretty flowers.

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    #22155588 - 08/28/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yea true, definitly more subtile then let's say weed lol,

I'm not worrying or nothing it's really just the principle.a grown man can jump out of air plane, but he can't smoke salvia . And imo parachuting is probably more dangerous and addictive:rolleyes:


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #22155745 - 08/28/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hyperspace welcomes you - and totally fucks your shit up in the process.  Maybe a bit too much. 







....can I enter hyperspace with another substance that doesn't make me feel so physically impared.?....that really was kinda horrible....but probably the most bizarre thing I have ever experienced. ...

.....I Love mushrooms!.....can high dose mushrooms do this to u?...I don't ever want to go back to that place. ....str8 overdose! Tell me that only salvia can do this to u.....I love mushrooms and good L....:awethumb:


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Hanz]
    #22155910 - 08/28/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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OMG voodoochild, I'm glad you're back in one piece, somersaulting into tables wtf?

I have to admit that what you did was classic. Like many others before you, you have found THE way to do it wrong. Too strong, too much, and ill prepared. These things are what makes people hate salvia. Be glad you didn't hurt yourself even worse.

I did have a few good laughs with your report though, since some of it was recognizable. The one time (so far) that I went bad on salvia I remember turning 2 dimensional too. You say being stuck between the pages of a book. I think this is what time is like on salvia: a series of discrete 2 dimensional screenshots that fly by at incredible speed. Time's normal continuity makes place for these discrete pages of .. a book of existence. Does that make sense?

What surprised me in your story was that it seemed as if you didn't actually lose your sense of self. I remember completely forgetting A:who I was, B:that I ever was someone, C: that anybody ever was anyone, D:etc, etc...

Anyway, as I've written elsewhere, I do still love Lady S. I just stick to 5x extract, sometimes a little 10x, more than strong enough. The more respect I showed her, the better she treated me. Calmness, silence, darkness, sensory deprivation, meditation, even prayer, these are the things that make her happy.

For reference: 50mg of 5x does nothing to me, between 75 and 100mg a light trip, around 125mg I have what I call half-OBE's. That is when your head, arms, and torso go out of body, but your legs and buttocks remain on the couch. I find this to be very pleasant. 150mg makes me trip as hard as I usually want. Beyond 200 or 250mg it starts to be unpleasant. More dissociation, less psychedelics. I'm not sure I can extrapolate this curve. There may be an "island" of psychedelics further up the dose curve. I'm just not comfortable going there...

One day I should make a journal page or something, and create a place where I put all my tips on salvia together with some informative trip reports.

Hope you want to try it again some other time, just be little more careful

Love, Hanz.





....that was my feeling exactly..... I absolutely was convinced that I had somehow slipped between the shifting moments of time and was caught in between. I was so terrified... I mean was I terrified? I couldn't comprehend anything! I have never experienced anything even close to that and I believe it's an experience that our mental faculties are unable to comprehend in any way shape or form.

.. my friend came over yesterday morning and we very carefully smoke some more! Part of me was scared but needed to feel it a little bit again to remember. We just sprinkled a tiny amount on a bowl and had a couple other small amounts to keep working up to an adequate effective dose. I smoked three boneheads with a small amount on each one and began to feel that physical sensation as though the right half of my body was being pulled down the wormhole or into oblivion for beginning to shift from this moment in time to another moment in time! The physical sensation is unbelievable and I have never felt such a strong physical sensation from taking a substance and that was totally totally new to me! I mean I get some interesting tactile and sensory things on mushrooms and LSD but nothing compared to this!

... I still up in the midst of it and was really connecting with my hardcore experience last night and obviously much slider physical sensation but one that reminded me of the overwhelming experience the previous day! I got very emotional with a few tears as I recounted how time and space literally folded me up like some cardboard box. I was going into fetal positions preparing for myself to be crushed to death! I remember going into the fetal position and just preparing to die I guess! And these moments where it folded on me and I would look down and I couldn't see my legs or my arms because they were protruding through the wall that had folded over on top of me.

... I could sense all of the infinite layers of time like someone humming the pages on a long paperback novel. And each one was smashing reality down on top of me again and again. At some point I heard voices and felt like I was on the floor of some cosmic barn! As though there was some intergalactic space shifting time travelers and someone was asking what's wrong with that guy? And another one saying something about how he's learning and he'll be ok but time is smashing him pretty good right now! I had a very distinct visual of rows in a field. In my recollection I feel as though the Rows that I was seeing was just another visual indicator of the infinite two-dimensional layers of time passing through me.

... I went over it with my buddy again and it seems as though there was maybe a 2 minutes At the beginning where I remained on the couch. Then I fell off the couch and lay face down on the floor for about another 60 seconds. I really have no recollection whatsoever of any of that. At about the 2 minute point is when I tried to stand up and I immediately fell back down. What ensued was four to five minutes of absolute madness. I pulled the curtains down... my buddy said he thought I was going to literally smash through the sliding glass door then I fell into the corner by the TV at which point he came over and tried to hold on to me as I tried desperately to get my footing. I spiraled  and we both went to the ground. I have no recollection of him being there or trying to grab on to me. Thinking back on it I could sense the colors and textures of the room that I was in but it was all folding in on top of me and tilting wildly and gravity was throwing me into the corner where I had no choice but to go into a fetal position and wait for my imminent death.. .. I think I was trying to force myself to stand on my feet and get my bearings but I had no bearings whatsoever and just continued to get thrown into corners. The physical sensation of spinning wheels absolutely u******** real! I've had the stains from drinking too much but this is next level! Horrible! Completely completely out of control.

... I guess I got to my feet and made my way into the kitchen and leaned on the counter staring at the cabinets for maybe 30 seconds at which point I suddenly spin around and did a frontward summer so right into my dining table. Then I was riding around on the ground and cut my back on some glass that was on the ground. I somehow fell back into the living room area and this was the point where I could see the hand with the bong in the middle of my vision and shortly thereafter I could actually see my friends hand and that's when I desperately desperately grasp onto him thinking that this is the only way out or at least someone else will have to be here with me to experience this and help me understand,

..... I'm not sure if I've ever felt so totally alone!

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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22155926 - 08/28/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Salvia is it's own feel, although shrooms can give you hyperspace, but it's said to be more DMT like. Salvia hyperspace is a unique thing.

I urge you to try salvia again, but with a reasonable dose. I'd like to see what your thoughts are of it when you don't take ridiculous amounts.

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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Achillita]
    #22156010 - 08/28/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Salvia is it's own feel, although shrooms can give you hyperspace, but it's said to be more DMT like. Salvia hyperspace is a unique thing.

I urge you to try salvia again, but with a reasonable dose. I'd like to see what your thoughts are of it when you don't take ridiculous amounts.

And man, you get injured a lot on psychedelics.





....I get injured? or people on psychs get injured?....

...I have been relatively injury free....thankfully. .... kind of my worst fear for wilderness excursions is that myself or someone else manages to injure themselves seriously. We try to stay put until we're really in it and feeling awesome and then it seems as though I'm invincible.

Achillita. ...bro.....this experience really ripped me a new a******! I've always said I want to go as far as I can and come back but I went pretty far and came back but don't want to do that again! There was really no experience other than pure fear and helplessness! But I am going to be very sure not to OD anymore! I thought about what you said yesterday and the dosage amounts and I realized that it probably would be impossible to get to that level by smoking plain leaf.... you would be too high to continue smoking enough material to get to the level I was at.

.. I feel like I completely disrespected the plant and I disrespected myself by not adhering to my natural plants mantra! Also I will do some high quality L if that's what it truly is! Other than that...plants only! I feel like what music lover said. I totally disrespected the plant by smoking some crappy extract that was made for profit by some human beings! The natural plant would have treated me much kinder and giving itself to me in a much softer workable manner!

... like I said we smoked the rest of it yesterday morning and I gently worked into it and experienced much lighter form of the experience. It was ok but honestly I just don't think it's my thing personally! Although my experience and my feelings are totally askew due to the fact that I'm basing this on smoking some ridiculous 80X concentrate! So I can't honestly say what it's like to just smoke playing salvia. Also I have to agree that I think it's pretty unsafe to sell something this strong too unexperienced and unsuspecting kids! I don't want my kids smoking this s***!

.... honestly I feel pretty dumb! I shouldn't be smoking some crappy corporate concentrate from a head shop to begin with! I don't know what I was thinking! I also felt as though all of it including the mellow dose didn't offer me any epiphanies or clear learning situations like I get on mushrooms or good LSD.

...in the end I just felt kinda empty. ... although I have to say the one thing I did learn from this gnosis was not to overdose and to respect substances to the very max! :-):bigyesnod:


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    #22156140 - 08/28/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Salvia is an amazing teacher, but not in the way other psychedelics are. It'll either scare you senseless and make you glad to be sober, or it'll show you lessons or things you never ever considered.

Like I've felt the feelings of trees, became a book. It sounds strange, but it shows you other perspectives like I've ever experienced. Things that I haven't even considered since I was a kid.

Plain leaf is definitely the way to go though. I'd love to send you some, but it's illegal in my state, so postal service is a no go.(Just don't tell anyone :wink:)

Also, if you ever get your hands on some plain leaf, mixing a tiny bit(like only enough for threshold effects) with bud increases the high by so much. Not something to do everyday, but definitely worth a try. It's honestly the highest I had ever gotten. It could help you ease back into salvia, without experiencing any actual "trip".

Yo get injured a lot on psyches. I think I've read 2 or 3 different stories(including this one) of something happening. Just try and be safe man :hug:


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    #22156173 - 08/28/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Salvia is an amazing teacher, but not in the way other psychedelics are. It'll either scare you senseless and make you glad to be sober, or it'll show you lessons or things you never ever considered.

Like I've felt the feelings of trees, became a book. It sounds strange, but it shows you other perspectives like I've ever experienced. Things that I haven't even considered since I was a kid.

Plain leaf is definitely the way to go though. I'd love to send you some, but it's illegal in my state, so postal service is a no go.(Just don't tell anyone :wink:)

Also, if you ever get your hands on some plain leaf, mixing a tiny bit(like only enough for threshold effects) with bud increases the high by so much. Not something to do everyday, but definitely worth a try. It's honestly the highest I had ever gotten. It could help you ease back into salvia, without experiencing any actual "trip".

Yo get injured a lot on psyches. I think I've read 2 or 3 different stories(including this one) of something happening. Just try and be safe man :hug:




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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22156503 - 08/28/15 12:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I have a fair amount of extra plain leaf if you ever are interested Voodoo, I am not sure how much but probably at least 20-50 grams+

Also I figure I should share this experience with you since you are planning on following up with some L soon.

Years ago after trying that 80x with 2 friends me and one of said friends both blacked out on L the following weekend.

We were in separate groups and both only took a hit or two each but had crazy salvia flashbacks and blacked out.

He ended up in the hospital after running around peoples yards and getting cuffed by a cop. I pissed on some dudes leg :lol: Funniest part to me is he had done the same to someone else before while super fucked up so I feel like the universe dealt some karma through my blacked out ass. I got stuck in a time loop, literally had the same 5-10 seconds repeating for who knows how long.

I couldn't remember that it even happened til a couple weeks later when I had a short flashback and remembered it.

Anyways point is, be careful. I think salvia really opens up the brain or something. That or we just took way to strong of L. But everyone else who took it was fine, it was just me and my friend who smoked the 80x. We had somewhat similiar experiences too it seemed after talking with him about it.

Not trying to scare you, in fact that is the opposite of my intention. Consider it a warning. Maybe we were just unlucky but I think there is a connection.

Part of it could have been we took the salvia instead of L becouse we couldn't get any that night. So maybe the salvia just was getting us back :lol:


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    #22156535 - 08/28/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Musiclover420, have you ever mixed small amounts of salvia with weed? If not, I suggest it. But only a pinch.


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    #22156651 - 08/28/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Salvia made me feel like pages of a magazine being flipped and flipped , almost like a person wasnt happy with what they were seeing because it was like a violent SLAP in the face. I remember the 80x , and I kept saying shit to my friends like "Ive known you my whole life its all so familiar" , although I was sweating my ass off and seeing weird aliens. The feeling was very mechanical if that makes any sense. Salvia is the most intense drug I've done and its sold in smoke shops lol.  I've got the 80x and nobody wants to try it lmao.

I've smoked leaves from a salvia plant which were much more mild and non visual.


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    #22156771 - 08/28/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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... I could sense all of the infinite layers of time like someone humming the pages on a long paperback novel. And each one was smashing reality down on top of me again and again. At some point I heard voices and felt like I was on the floor of some cosmic barn! As though there was some intergalactic space shifting time travelers and someone was asking what's wrong with that guy? And another one saying something about how he's learning and he'll be ok but time is smashing him pretty good right now! I had a very distinct visual of rows in a field. In my recollection I feel as though the Rows that I was seeing was just another visual indicator of the infinite two-dimensional layers of time passing through me.





Fucking heavy duty, that.  Pretty much what some people call a breakthrough. Kind of reminds me of the end of Interstellar, ya know?

Yes, you can get that on shrooms (the entities I mean), as well as something like the slipping thing, though IME it's never this left/right separation, that seems more dissociative to me...  But then you're talking about a huge much too much and that's gotta sting.

I've experienced an unstoppable "sliding" in a direction that isn't any of the normal ones, and all around me (I was outdoors in the backyard) as this happened all the alternate realities for that day rotated by in succession - different weather, different neighborhood sounds, different feeling of the extant reality connected with each shift in the realities.  And eventually it slowed down (I was hanging on to the grass trying to make it stop :lol: and saying to myself over and over "this CANNOT be happening!" :lol:) and the sky started to clear (there had been endless amounts of different cloud cover shifting along over maybe half an hour at the peak, I'd been shooting for sunshine (see "tripping point" trip report), and this small cloud appeared directly overhead.  I gathered my stuff and went through the house to get to the front yard, and in those 30 seconds the sky had cleared) but that small cloud was still overhead - and it stayed there for about the next hour as the day settled down to the target I'd been aiming for.  Damndest thing ever, and it really started what I'm now doing with the dedicated research. :thumbup:


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Achillita]
    #22157350 - 08/28/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Musiclover420, have you ever mixed small amounts of salvia with weed? If not, I suggest it. But only a pinch.




The only truly "enjoyable" salvia experience I can remember was from smoking bowl after bowl of cannabis topped with salvia inside by a fire.

I was cozy in a chair staring at the fire. Took a while to really feel it but eventually I got lost in these vivid closed eye visions. It was like an abstract nature art display put on privately in my head. I can't remember any of the visuals but they were beautiful, nothing deep but it was a very unique cool experience. Everything was very organic and nature oriented, but also very abstract and artistic.

I also used to smoke salvia joints occasionally, plain salvia and sometimes with herb. Never got me very far though, just a weird uneasy feeling.


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    #22157427 - 08/28/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've had quite a few enjoyable experiences with salvia, not one where I felt terrified.

But salvia and weed mix is a pretty crazy mix. It takes away any uneasy body feelings and get's you insanely high. Also brings out the weed trippiness more.


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Achillita]
    #22157478 - 08/28/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think kratom also brings out cannabis's psychedelic potential for me more. Lately I have been having some interesting experiences super stoned.

I will like semi trance or meditate out and go off on short visionary expeditions of random stuff late at night when super blazed.

When I use to use salvia a fair amount it almost always just made me feel uneasy or weird so I generally wouldn't try and go very far with it.

I tried quidding a couple times with interesting results and have been on a long break since.


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    #22226590 - 09/12/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like a lovely trip.


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    #22226616 - 09/12/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Disassociatives are not psychedelics. As you have now learned. Disassociatives take the cake for the most bizarre, reality warping, straight up alien drugs IMO.


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    #22226626 - 09/12/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Disassociatives are not psychedelics. As you have now learned. Disassociatives take the cake for the most bizarre, reality warping, straight up alien drugs IMO.




.....urrr....4 real....:vibin:


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    #22226819 - 09/12/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Disassociatives are not psychedelics. As you have now learned. Disassociatives take the cake for the most bizarre, reality warping, straight up alien drugs IMO.




.....urrr....4 real....:vibin:




The best way I've been able to describe salvia is that it's like it creates a feedback loop for all your senses/consciousness. It's like pointing a camera at the TV it's outputting to, but for your entire experience. Which leads to some very strange results.


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    #22227129 - 09/12/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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    #22227222 - 09/12/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:vibin:.....literally this guy:vibin:....smashed between the layers of time...accidentally fell between the cracks....:trippnballs:


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22230158 - 09/13/15 07:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The best way I've been able to describe salvia is that it's like it creates a feedback loop for all your senses/consciousness. It's like pointing a camera at the TV it's outputting to, but for your entire experience. Which leads to some very strange results.





Nice one!  :biggrin: 
I know exactly what you mean by that, but never heard it (salvia) beeing described this way before. Right to the point man.

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    #22234670 - 09/13/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I did internet research on Salvia and it did not inform me. The effect it had on me was how I would imagine electric shock therapy would feel like. Then I came down and had extreme nausea that would not go away for months. Hate that stuff.


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    #22235774 - 09/14/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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IMO, the mass selling of extracts is what caused much of the reason it has been banned in so many states. All of my salvia trips were purely amazing. On one of the more fun trips, I shot out of earth into space and started to bounce off of each of the planets. until I reached pluto and got sucked back into my body. I was just smiling after that too.

Salvia is awesome, but you just have to respect it. Start low and not be stupid with your dose. With any psych, you just gotta find that sweet spot.

Honestly, every person I've given salvia to(and at the right dose) has loved the experience.




I think it was that Miley Cyrus fault Salvia got banned. Barely anyone knew what it was that wasn't involved in psychedelic culture. Then that dumb bitch has a video of her smoking it and all of a sudden people start paying attention to it and it gets banned like less than a year later.


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    #22236262 - 09/14/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If I remember reading correctly, some years ago there was a teenage boy who committed suicide. In the last months of his life he informed his mother that he had been smoking salvia. Then the dumb bitch made it her life goal to have salvia banned. It was banned in the state they lived in. Stupid, fucking clueless bitch... Maybe she should've paid more attention to her son instead of his drug use. People that demonize drugs because of reasons like this piss me the fuck off!


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    #22237215 - 09/14/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think that' is called Brents Law. There is some evidence that he didn't even smoke salvia for months before his suicide...


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    #22237251 - 09/14/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

What a dumb c*** his mother is. Fuck drug prohibition.

Achillita, were you the member who made the thread wanting members to post their brief salvia trip reports? I think remember you!

By the way, that thread played a key role in my decision to purchase a good amount of salvia. I purchased 1/4 lb of plain leaf & 1-2 grams each of 5x, 10x, 15x, 20x, & 50x. That'll last me a lifetime...
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    #22237266 - 09/14/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I agree it's stupid, but losing a child may shock one into stupidity, let's hope we never have to go through that, who knows what we'd want to ban then :peace:


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    #22239241 - 09/14/15 11:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I have only done salvia once. Never again. I have always been capable of maintaining my head while high, but salvia is like roller coaster with only one drop.... off a fucking cliff. One second I am completely lucid, the next an army of militant oranges are marching over me as I'm being buried in a hole. The oranges form into a tank's track and I swear I feel like I am.... wooop completely lucid again.

My boyfriend looked like he was completely retarded for 45 seconds. Drooling and everything. It freaked me out to see him that disconnected from one hit off a pipe.

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    #22239250 - 09/14/15 11:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Salvia is not crap :crankey:

Honestly, you probably dosed wrong. I've come to realize most people dose wrong when it comes to salvia. Salvia isn't for everyone,  but the correct set, setting, and dose it is absolutely amazing. I haven't found a person that dislikes it whenever I dose them correctly.


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    #22239269 - 09/14/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It's not crap... for you. LOL. I didn't "dose" wrong. I took a single hit. Good setting, safe, comfortable, expecting a good time. I do not like any drug that only lasts for a few seconds and is such a disassociative that I wasn't able to control any aspect of the trip.

This hasn't bee the case for any other drug I have experienced before. Someone else may have loved leaving the room and meeting militant oranges. I however, did not. I'll take my mountain hikes on shrooms hunting gnomes any day over that shit. At least I know what's going on as its happening. I'm able to reason with myself with things seem unreal.


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    #22239330 - 09/15/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Compared to LSD, psilocybin, mescaline and DMT uhhhh yea it's crap


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    #22239332 - 09/15/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I took a single hit.




A single hit of what? I highly doubt it was plain leaf :lol:

Saying salvia is crap is pretty damn disrespectful. Whether or not you can get into it, salvia has a long beautiful history as an entheogen.

It is also the most powerful naturally occurring entheogen we know of and demands respect accordingly. On top of that it is pretty damn unique...


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    #22239369 - 09/15/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The enhanced leaves often will have a good dose in milligrams. With a 50x extract, 8 milligrams is a good dose.

A lot of people just pack a bowl and smoke a random dose. Imagine if they did the same with DMT or just took a 10 strip. Over dosing on it leads to scary or un nerving experiences.


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    #22239548 - 09/15/15 02:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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    #22239661 - 09/15/15 03:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I have never used scales to dose salvia extracts. I am planning to change this next time I buy it. I will weight the doses out for scientific purposes.


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    #22240136 - 09/15/15 08:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Use plain leaf....much less likely to OD. ...I had a awful experience because I went way overboard...if I try again I will probably quid plain leaf.....extract?....never again...:firstladyofapproval:

.... honestly. It's not safe to sell that crazy strong extract to any random kid that wants to go in a head shop! People could die with that s***!


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    #22240613 - 09/15/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Im wondering whether this never ending stream of people "OD" on salvia stems from the drugs intense weird high, or the fact that its quasi-legal and cheap
People who dont know the first thing about psys or pharmacy read about these drugs you can buy at the cornerstore in some tabloid and just eyeball a bump of it.

The whole concept of salvia being sold as ever stronger concentrates is absurd, anything over 5-10x is just unessecary and dangerous. The free market works in mysterious ways

Smoking 80x salvia is like eyeballing crystal LSD, its stupid and you will propably regret it, but atleast you cant kill yourself

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I have never used scales to dose salvia extracts. I am planning to change this next time I buy it. I will weight the doses out for scientific purposes.



A scale propably wont help too much, but atleast gives you some peace of mind
You have no idea how strong any kind of extract is until you try, and then i wouldnt count on the dosage being evenly laid even in the same batch
I use plain leaf or weak extracts and then just take puffs until its good, but with salvia you never know whats coming next


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    #22240966 - 09/15/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The thing is, people have various tolerance to salvia.
I myself find any extracts weaker than 20x too weak to give me the intense trips which I like.
Whilst there are people who get completely disassociated on 5x.
I think maybe each salvia pack should have more information included on a leaflet attached to the pack?
But then again the stupid law makes it possible to sell salvia only as "not for human consumption" and having such informative leaflet would break the law.
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    #22241071 - 09/15/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It was plain leaf, dried in a food dehydrator apparently. The reason I had never done it prior to this experience was because I wasn't willing to try something like this as an extract with no idea as to what effect it would have on me. A good friend of ours told us that the leaves were the safest way to smoke it since I didn't want to chew the stuff.

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    #22254511 - 09/18/15 04:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for sharing your experience voodoochild1000.

I smoked .10g of Purple Sticky 60x a few months ago and had a beautiful and enlightening first experience. Tonight will be the second time, but .15 - .20g sprinkled over sticky green.

Also, I appreciate the good you spoke of salvia Achillita.


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