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Kalistis


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Hanz]
#22239241 - 09/14/15 11:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have only done salvia once. Never again. I have always been capable of maintaining my head while high, but salvia is like roller coaster with only one drop.... off a fucking cliff. One second I am completely lucid, the next an army of militant oranges are marching over me as I'm being buried in a hole. The oranges form into a tank's track and I swear I feel like I am.... wooop completely lucid again.
My boyfriend looked like he was completely retarded for 45 seconds. Drooling and everything. It freaked me out to see him that disconnected from one hit off a pipe.
I will never... ever... smoke that crap again.
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Achillita
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Kalistis] 1
#22239250 - 09/14/15 11:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Salvia is not crap 
Honestly, you probably dosed wrong. I've come to realize most people dose wrong when it comes to salvia. Salvia isn't for everyone, but the correct set, setting, and dose it is absolutely amazing. I haven't found a person that dislikes it whenever I dose them correctly.
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Kalistis


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Achillita]
#22239269 - 09/14/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's not crap... for you. LOL. I didn't "dose" wrong. I took a single hit. Good setting, safe, comfortable, expecting a good time. I do not like any drug that only lasts for a few seconds and is such a disassociative that I wasn't able to control any aspect of the trip.
This hasn't bee the case for any other drug I have experienced before. Someone else may have loved leaving the room and meeting militant oranges. I however, did not. I'll take my mountain hikes on shrooms hunting gnomes any day over that shit. At least I know what's going on as its happening. I'm able to reason with myself with things seem unreal.
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Rebelutionsssss
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Kalistis]
#22239330 - 09/15/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Compared to LSD, psilocybin, mescaline and DMT uhhhh yea it's crap
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musiclover420
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Kalistis]
#22239332 - 09/15/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Caelistis said: I took a single hit.
A single hit of what? I highly doubt it was plain leaf 
Saying salvia is crap is pretty damn disrespectful. Whether or not you can get into it, salvia has a long beautiful history as an entheogen.
It is also the most powerful naturally occurring entheogen we know of and demands respect accordingly. On top of that it is pretty damn unique...
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Achillita
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: musiclover420]
#22239369 - 09/15/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The enhanced leaves often will have a good dose in milligrams. With a 50x extract, 8 milligrams is a good dose.
A lot of people just pack a bowl and smoke a random dose. Imagine if they did the same with DMT or just took a 10 strip. Over dosing on it leads to scary or un nerving experiences.
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musiclover420
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Achillita]
#22239548 - 09/15/15 02:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Dr. Delban
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: musiclover420]
#22239661 - 09/15/15 03:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have never used scales to dose salvia extracts. I am planning to change this next time I buy it. I will weight the doses out for scientific purposes.
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voodoochild1000
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Dr. Delban]
#22240136 - 09/15/15 08:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Use plain leaf....much less likely to OD. ...I had a awful experience because I went way overboard...if I try again I will probably quid plain leaf.....extract?....never again...
.... honestly. It's not safe to sell that crazy strong extract to any random kid that wants to go in a head shop! People could die with that s***!
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Edited by voodoochild1000 (09/15/15 08:20 AM)
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: voodoochild1000]
#22240613 - 09/15/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im wondering whether this never ending stream of people "OD" on salvia stems from the drugs intense weird high, or the fact that its quasi-legal and cheap People who dont know the first thing about psys or pharmacy read about these drugs you can buy at the cornerstore in some tabloid and just eyeball a bump of it.
The whole concept of salvia being sold as ever stronger concentrates is absurd, anything over 5-10x is just unessecary and dangerous. The free market works in mysterious ways
Smoking 80x salvia is like eyeballing crystal LSD, its stupid and you will propably regret it, but atleast you cant kill yourself
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Dr. Delban said: I have never used scales to dose salvia extracts. I am planning to change this next time I buy it. I will weight the doses out for scientific purposes.
A scale propably wont help too much, but atleast gives you some peace of mind You have no idea how strong any kind of extract is until you try, and then i wouldnt count on the dosage being evenly laid even in the same batch I use plain leaf or weak extracts and then just take puffs until its good, but with salvia you never know whats coming next
Edited by thoraxx (09/15/15 10:23 AM)
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Dr. Delban
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: thoraxx]
#22240966 - 09/15/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The thing is, people have various tolerance to salvia. I myself find any extracts weaker than 20x too weak to give me the intense trips which I like. Whilst there are people who get completely disassociated on 5x. I think maybe each salvia pack should have more information included on a leaflet attached to the pack? But then again the stupid law makes it possible to sell salvia only as "not for human consumption" and having such informative leaflet would break the law. Unless it was written in this "plant fertilizer" slang.
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Kalistis


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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Dr. Delban]
#22241071 - 09/15/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It was plain leaf, dried in a food dehydrator apparently. The reason I had never done it prior to this experience was because I wasn't willing to try something like this as an extract with no idea as to what effect it would have on me. A good friend of ours told us that the leaves were the safest way to smoke it since I didn't want to chew the stuff.
Once again, my experience and my opinion.
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PaulyAnna



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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Kalistis]
#22254511 - 09/18/15 04:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for sharing your experience voodoochild1000.
I smoked .10g of Purple Sticky 60x a few months ago and had a beautiful and enlightening first experience. Tonight will be the second time, but .15 - .20g sprinkled over sticky green.
Also, I appreciate the good you spoke of salvia Achillita.
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