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80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA!
#22149486 - 08/26/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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......so.....HOLY FUCKING SHIT!
... so me and my buddy came by some 80X concentrate salvia of the purple variety. We had other options in the 20 or 40 or 60 X varieties but thought because we've been doing a lot of tripping lately that 80 sounded like a good choice.....
...1st mistake.....
.... so we got back to the crib a little later and got everything mellowed out put on some nice Howard Wales for that groovy sound. Pulled the shades and proceeded to load approximately half of the .5 Gram that was in the little purple container.
....mistake #2.....
.... I should have come on shroomery and done a little more research but I've seen those videos on YouTube of people straight freaking out and I just figured they were some crazy hillbillies that we're going way too far out there I mean for christ sake this was only like .2 -.3 grams on top of a little weed it didn't look like it could possibly do that much. I try to research everything I do in depth and try to have an understanding of what I'm getting into and do pretty steady doses of mushrooms at the 7 to 8 gram level and five to ten hits of acid when I trip and I'm always feeling good and wanting to go further. I mean really, what could this little amount of Salvia on top of my bong hit really do?...
....3rd mistake.......
....lights dimmed....mellow tunes.....let's do this!
... I fired up the lighter and put it to the surface of the mixture and burned and pulled the whole thing and cleared the carb!.....
...final mistake....................
I exhaled and felt a rush for wave of psychedelic energy start to flow up through my body.
..... the next thing I remember was my entire existence as though everything in my vision....(my existence)..... as though everything in my field of vision was a monitor of some sorts and that whole square image or existence was literally spiraling to the left and around into the center like an over the top spiral back into itself definitely with the energy moving in a left direction.
...I HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE TERRIFIED. ........
.....here's the sensation....
... My existence as I explain it continued to careen and spiral to the left and into itself I was all of the sudden being flung into the corner of a room as my existence tumbled over itself and gravity still pushing down in my world sent me inexplicably spinning and spiraling in that leftward direction falling into empty corners of rooms and then literally having the room walls close on me like I'm in between the pages of a book....
....HELP!.......
....again and again I was violently flung into a corner as the walls folded in on me.
.....again and again....WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ME!....
..... as my existence continue to spiral again and again and again I could see the edge of the existence as its square or rectangular form spiral to the left and became smaller as it continued down the wormhole and it was layer after layer of existence pouring down the wormhole. Like pages in a book but infinite or like if you flayed cards out on a table where there are overlapping but it was infinite.
....AHHHHHHHH......HELP...
.. the layers of the existence were slamming me between their pages and I was reemerged just to be slammed by yet another page! It was the most complete out of body experience I have ever had but absolutely f****** dissociative.....
.... part of me had this idea in the back of my mind that I had somehow slip between the cracks and fell into some kind of wormhole that left me hanging between dimensions. I mean I'm into the whole thing with the idea that there is multiple alternate dimensions in an infinite nature and part of me feels like I was able to see or feel the dimensions as they infinitely collapsed on each other for as I said like thumbing the pages of a book with infinite pages.....
... I had a distinct sensation as though for that moment I was able to fully sense those alternate realities and it was just too f****** much for my feeble mind and consciousness to truly handle. I mean, what the f***!
.. In a way I felt as though I now understand that we must truly increase our consciousness to the get to the next level because if we don't have a developed consciousness there's no f****** way you can handle what is truly out there. It's like our minds are on some sort of survival mode because they understand that the experience is just too f****** incomprehensible 4 most people to comprehend.....
...sorry if this is long....gotta tell this...
...OH MY GOD!...HELP!
.... I started to hear voices and had a feeling as though I was at some hippie festival and got completely f***** up and was ass over heels out in the bushes with people being like ...is he ok?... hey bro are you alright?stay calm dude! Ect. I was like oh my god am I going to come to in some medical tent!
..... finally there was something near the center of my vision that wasn't spinning uncontrollably into oblivion and it was a hand holding a bong and a voice that said hey man smoke a bong hit! Not really what I needed at that point! Then finally I could see and arm and finally the torso and face of my friend and I latched onto him with such desperation that you would think he was the last person on earth and I haven't seen anybody in 10 years! I felt like it was the only way out of this perpetual spiral. He wasn't spinning and I needed to latch on to him he was the only way to get out. I was straight bear hugging him like some long lost brother which is exactly what he was at that point! Lol
... with a little bit of my vision stabilizing I put my hands on the floor and managed to stand up and sort of force the issue with my crazy spiraling dissociative falling on the floor s***. It was kind of crazy it was like the left half of my vision was stabilized but the whole right half including my body still wanted to spiral up and over the top and back into the middle. The physical sensation was so f****** intense I can't f****** believe I was feeling that way. I just can't get over how strong that physical feeling was I mean I've had lots of situations where I've been laid out and s*** was spinning but this was like literally my whole existence with spinning and just throwing me all over the place like some horrible erratic frenetic ride!
....like Rick James says ...."Salvia is a powerful drug!"
... I stumbled around the house for a couple more minutes and lay down in my bed and was mostly back to normal within another five minutes after that. Other than integrating what the f*** just happened to me!
..... my body was looking at me with the craziest look of astonishment like what the f*** just happened and I can't believe it! he said I crashed into every wall he had to grab all the glass and anything fragile.... but it was too late cuz I already knocked a bong off the table and there was broken glass on the floor that I ended up f****** kind of rolling in and got a small cut on my back so there was blood on the floor and everything! He said at one point I threw myself forward into a somersault into the kitchen table and in my trip I remember that I was diving for a corner as the walls fold it in on me and then I went into a fetal position as I just said oh f*** here it comes just f****** get ready for it as existence is about to crush you! Oh f****** god!
..... I'm on the verge of venturing into high dose mushrooms and LSD and very interested in cactus and DMT. Has anyone ever had such a dizzying and dissociative trip on classic indoles? I want to trip high dose but for f*** sake man I don't want to be trapped in anything like that for an extended period of time that sounds pretty f****** hellish!
.... basically I f***** up and didn't respect salvia and it clipped my nuts pretty f****** good!
......Trippin' ain't for the faint of heart.....
-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: voodoochild1000]
#22149539 - 08/26/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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damn
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Namyellit] 1
#22149550 - 08/26/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I fucking hate salvia. It just throws you into a disorientating horrible head space ime. If I wanna go that far I'll just smoke dmt and have an enlightened trip. It really is a drug I dislike
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22149560 - 08/26/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Namyellit said: damn
Indeed.... I hope it isn't too long and turns people away I really need some feedback on this from experience trippers...
....Help me integrate this please....Quote:
Rebelutionsssss said: I fucking hate salvia. It just throws you into a disorientating horrible head space ime. If I wanna go that far I'll just smoke dmt and have an enlightened trip. It really is a drug I dislike
....it was kinda horrible....
.... I really want to try some DMT badly! Just to be clear the DMT experience doesn't have you in such a bad head space and falling all over your crib and s***!? Right?
I want to go as far as possible but whatever the f*** this was isn't where I want to be because it's just so f****** painful and seriously all that falling down you could really hurt yourself! I'm f****** sore on several places on my body and I don't even know what the f*** happened!
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: voodoochild1000]
#22149588 - 08/27/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Visually speaking nothings topped my ssalvia trip, but the physical sensations are just too much. Not my favorite psychedelic but i think its a worthwhile experience.
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voodoochild1000
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: DurgaDurg]
#22149594 - 08/27/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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DurgaDurg said: Visually speaking nothings topped my ssalvia trip, but the physical sensations are just too much. Not my favorite psychedelic but i think its a worthwhile experience.
.... can you ever prepare for an experience like that for f*** sake? I have to say I didn't get much learning out of it other than learning that I did too much! Lol
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: voodoochild1000]
#22149597 - 08/27/15 12:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yep. I remember when I dI'd salvia that ONE time.
That was a great read though. Thx for the write up.
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: wildernessjunkie]
#22149637 - 08/27/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dmt will have you in a world of beauty. I cried when I first came down after blasting off it was so amazing, it's like having the gods pour a cleansing rain over your soul. Not like salvia where you're like a chicken running around with its head cut off in fear only to come to and not remember shit except for how horrible it was.
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22149652 - 08/27/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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wildernessjunkie said: Yep. I remember when I dI'd salvia that ONE time.
That was a great read though. Thx for the write up.
...thanks Bro!....was intense....Quote:
Rebelutionsssss said: Dmt will have you in a world of beauty. I cried when I first came down after blasting off it was so amazing, it's like having the gods pour a cleansing rain over your soul. Not like salvia where you're like a chicken running around with its head cut off in fear only to come to and not remember shit except for how horrible it was.
....I want THAT!...
....great description. ....lmfao!
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: wildernessjunkie] 4
#22149654 - 08/27/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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80x extracts.... The real reason why people hate salvia is because they take too much nearly every freaking time. For a plain leaf salvia trip that's strong you only need about .5 grams. For a 5x extract, and for the same strong effects, you need to take .08-.15 grams...
80x extract is OVERKILL. I did the math, with an extract like that, you're supposed to smoke 5 mg for a moderately strong dose.
You smoked WAYYY more than that. Just with any other psychedelic, you need to work your way up from low doses. If you took a 50 tabs of LSD for your first time and flipped shit(and you definitely would) you'd probably not wanna try LSD again. But in reality it's your fault, not the psychedelics.
I mean you took 50x the amount(probably more) than what would have made you trip. Most people do the same thing, and then go on and condemn salvia as some monster.
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Achillita]
#22149668 - 08/27/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Achillita said: 80x extracts.... The real reason why people hate salvia is because they take too much nearly every freaking time. For a plain leaf salvia trip that's strong you only need about .5 grams. For a 5x extract, and for the same strong effects, you need to take .08-.15 grams...
80x extract is OVERKILL. I did the math, with an extract like that, you're supposed to smoke 5 mg for a moderately strong dose.
You smoked WAYYY more than that. Just with any other psychedelic, you need to work your way up from low doses. If you took a 50 tabs of LSD for your first time and flipped shit(and you definitely would) you'd probably not wanna try LSD again. But in reality it's your fault, not the psychedelics.
I mean you took 50x the amount(probably more) than what would have made you trip. Most people do the same thing, and then go on and condemn salvia as some monster.
....I agree.....total overkill. ...50x too much!..I feel quite ignorant. ....straight overdose! Yeah...I smoked rougly 40mg.....damn......no wonder!
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Edited by voodoochild1000 (08/27/15 12:56 AM)
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: voodoochild1000]
#22149679 - 08/27/15 01:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I summeresulted into my dining table......
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: voodoochild1000]
#22149687 - 08/27/15 01:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just be happy it wasn't like this
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: voodoochild1000]
#22149692 - 08/27/15 01:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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IMO, the mass selling of extracts is what caused much of the reason it has been banned in so many states. All of my salvia trips were purely amazing. On one of the more fun trips, I shot out of earth into space and started to bounce off of each of the planets. until I reached pluto and got sucked back into my body. I was just smiling after that too.
Salvia is awesome, but you just have to respect it. Start low and not be stupid with your dose. With any psych, you just gotta find that sweet spot.
Honestly, every person I've given salvia to(and at the right dose) has loved the experience.
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Achillita]
#22149723 - 08/27/15 01:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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When I took it, it was amazing as far as the head space. I was instantly catapulted elsewhere. The reason I don't like it is because of the uncomfortable physical sensations it produced.
I felt like I was being slapped around, and was severely overheated.
As I came too, my survival instincts kicked in and I crawled into the shower and turned on the cold water. Clothes and all, the only thing going through my mind was to cool down ASAP. Granted, it was all in my head, but it was real enough at the time.
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: voodoochild1000]
#22149737 - 08/27/15 01:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I avoid salvia -extracts as the plain leaves make me trip. One bowl of ground leave is enough to rip my senses of time and space appart, at least for a minute or two.
I know these sensations of beeing pulled or twisted into a spiral. I also understand this feeling of multiple dimensions, overlapping themselves in or beeing revealed by this spiral -twist. 
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Pandemoon]
#22149757 - 08/27/15 01:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Voodoo, if you give salvia a shot again(which I suggest you do), start with a 5x extract or plain leaf. Those are a lot easier to measure out.
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Achillita]
#22149763 - 08/27/15 02:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That stuff is no joke for sure. I had my absolute most powerful experience ever off the 80x you speak of. I went to a world I've never seen before, a place I still can't explain. I learned my lesson, salvia commands respect and she better fucking get it,lol!
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Pandemoon] 1
#22150004 - 08/27/15 06:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pandemoon said: I avoid salvia -extracts as the plain leaves make me trip. One bowl of ground leave is enough to rip my senses of time and space appart, at least for a minute or two.
I know these sensations of beeing pulled or twisted into a spiral. I also understand this feeling of multiple dimensions, overlapping themselves in or beeing revealed by this spiral -twist.  -

Plain leaf for the win!
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Re: 80x salvia...1st time ever..... .25 grams...IM SO FUCKING SORRY!....AAHHHGGGGAAA! [Re: Nature Boy]
#22150111 - 08/27/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I did Salvia once before and only once. It was leaves. Lasted probably 5-8 minutes. I felt like I was being sucked into my couch, like melting in and I was grabbing for my girl's arm who was now a frog but my hand kept going through her arm like she was made of clay. Weird shit. Not a fan personally.
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