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OfflineAffenkoenig
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Schizophrenia/Psychedelics
    #22147677 - 08/26/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hey yo. I'm suspected to be schizophrenic (no elaborate diagnosis yet, still fairly obviously warped experience/schizophrenic or similar) and used to have OCD (quite extreme).

There's lots of things to say about that and my situation that probably make not a lot of sense to discuss here at length.

I used psychedelics a number of times, rather mild trips (just truffles, LSD, really not a damn grand load of experience), found those either pleasant or a good aid to identify problems/emotionally purge myself to some degree. So naturally I'd like to continue to occasionally take psychedelics.

I do have the suspicion it could help me, since I'm under the impression the triggering/worsening of my condition is related to complex psychological (in contrast to plain .. brain mutation or something) issues. I do realize that I could be wrong of course. Not even properly diagnosed I won't try to remedy all my appearantly drastic shit by ingestion of a fantastic deal of psychedelics.

If there're any schizophrenic/pathologically anxious people familiar with psychedelic drugs on this site that are willing to share any stories/advice/notions (healthy/unhealthy/neutral during/off medication dealing with small amounts/great amounts), I'd be glad to listen.

Please do not create posts that don't contain any sort of valuable information ("omg don't!!!!!"). I'm not panicy about taking, neither eager to take anything.

Also: at the moment it's often hard for me to intellectually organize large bodies of new information or formulate (or apprehend) new concepts of great intricacy. It't not necessary to dumb your answers down - but please write well-structured and be sort-of concise.

Cheers!


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Re: Schizophrenia/Psychedelics [Re: Affenkoenig]
    #22147724 - 08/26/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think schizo and psychedelics are a good mix. I don't think theyre going to help you out.


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Re: Schizophrenia/Psychedelics [Re: Affenkoenig]
    #22147905 - 08/26/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You should avoid psychedelics including weed.

Psychosis can be pretty hellish.

Make sure you get enough sleep.

Peace.



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Re: Schizophrenia/Psychedelics [Re: Love_spirit]
    #22148955 - 08/26/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Taking psychedelics while suffering from mental illness is a bad idea.  Unfortunately there is no silver bullet.


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Re: Schizophrenia/Psychedelics [Re: Cognitive_Shift] * 1
    #22149240 - 08/26/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think it may be okay to take psychedelics, it's far more likely to be dangerous to use cannabis or stimulants.


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Re: Schizophrenia/Psychedelics [Re: circastes]
    #22149322 - 08/26/15 10:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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circastes said:
I think it may be okay to take psychedelics, it's far more likely to be dangerous to use cannabis or stimulants.




No. I don't think any drugs with an underlying schiz issue is a good idea.

That'll really kick up the mindreading


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Re: Schizophrenia/Psychedelics [Re: Detached]
    #22153435 - 08/27/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Psychedelics can bring out underlying mental health issues in many cases, so most people on here are gonna suggest you to stay away from psychedelics as it could make your road to sanity quite a bit harder.

But if I told you it had no possibility to work I'd be lying. So about two years ago I was experiencing this pretty terrible mental breakdown. I'd experience these super depressing lows that would cause schizophrenic symptoms. The psychiatrist said I had some form of schizoaffective disorder.

I only smoked some weed at that time. But my girlfriend helped me the best she could, and I was doing okay, but some days it was pretty damn tough to try and live normally. Anyways, after my full blown psychosis I experienced for almost half a year, I'd still get these mini schizophrenic episodes, and it sucked.

I tried shrooms and the depressive lows disappeared. As did all signs of my mental health problems. My trips were the most healing thing that could have happened. I still feel great mentally, and haven't suffered any mental problems for about 7 months.

Now there are risks for using psychedelic substances if you have even the slightest mental health problem. There is a possibility that you could worsen your mental health. But psychedelics have only ever helped me. After every trip I feel much more sane than anything. The psychiatrist says I'm pretty much normal now as well.

Stay safe man, hope you can get better :hug: Schizophrenia is a big mental disorder to deal with.


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Re: Schizophrenia/Psychedelics [Re: Achillita]
    #22155142 - 08/28/15 07:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well I mean, I can't smoke cannabis, full stop, as it makes me utterly schizophrenic within about 10 seconds after blowing out the smoke.

However I've had many good mushroom trips while undiagnosed, and about 3 months ago I smoked DMT, and I only felt clearer afterwards.

In fact I say stimulants are bad but I smoke ice about once every fortnight with no aggravation of symptoms...

The whole 'perturbing brain chemistry with already perturbed brain chemistry is a bad idea' routine is a bit inaccurate I think. These diseases aren't that simple.


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Re: Schizophrenia/Psychedelics [Re: circastes]
    #22172681 - 09/01/15 06:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you!


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Re: Schizophrenia/Psychedelics [Re: Affenkoenig]
    #22178816 - 09/02/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I was diagnosed bipolar, schizoaffective, schizophrenic, then with paranoid schizophrenia.  I swear I was initiated into a realm of spirits and am under attack psychically.  This has all been confused with mental illness.  The psychedelics can really be a good thing and they can really be a bad BAD thing.


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Re: Schizophrenia/Psychedelics [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #22181259 - 09/02/15 11:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Just be careful mixing with meds if you end up on them man. I'm on 300mg depot of abilify, took 5 tabs last week ended up with neuroleptic malignment syndrome which was pretty scary. Had taken 3 tabs a month prior with no issues and was a positive experience overall. peace


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Re: Schizophrenia/Psychedelics [Re: ZombieMode]
    #22183452 - 09/03/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Oh yeah I think there can definitely be interactions with medicines. I had a bad reaction trying to overcome Abilify with extremely potent shrooms, like these things were deep, deep blue and thick as anything. I ended up having this weird as hell trip then I was depressed for about 3 months severely and another 3 months moderately.


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