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Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!!
    #22146080 - 08/26/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I fucking LOVE those potent woodlover psilocybes and would be absolutely in love with some story's.  Azurescens are welcome!

Here's a small patch I found last year :trippinbawelz: cleanest most clear headed intense trip I've ever had. When they're Fresh just imagine cubes with no body load and confusion/ moments of intense fear but pure insight, love, and revelations. They're hard to find but by far my favorite mushroom to eat.


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Re: Psilocybe cynaescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22146470 - 08/26/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

the first time i ever took shrooms they were cyans! the cev's were insane, saturated, vibrant rainbow neon breathing and waving patterns turning into more complex objects and things, it felt more like MDMA + rainbows, was so euphoric, one of the best nights of my life. so much better than cubensis, oh man.


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Re: Psilocybe cynaescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: XXfuzyxgamingXX]
    #22146801 - 08/26/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Cyans are great.  Woodlovers in general are where it's at.  I actually prefer ovoids or a nice mix of 50/50 ovoids/cyans.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22148007 - 08/26/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Cyans are pretty awesome. The potency is where its at!!

But the first time i took them, i took one gram, and aat the peak, it was not fun guys.

I thought my heart was being attacked, and my breathing became labored. Then i felt really tired. It wad a very rough peak,  but after that, it was awesome!

There is some kind of poison in cyans i dont like, it cause lethargy and muscle pain.

I prefer stunziis, no side  effects! But they are so rare....


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22148764 - 08/26/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've never gotten the muscle aches from woodlovers that people talk about.  A high dose of any psychedelic will lay me out, I generally take the come up to peak lying down in darkness, listening to music, then get up and move around on the downhill side of the trip. 

Bodyfeel wise, high doses of cyans are actually incredible IME, a very roll-like almost MDA quality body-soul-gasm.  I always do tea though. 
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22149346 - 08/26/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

the first time i found cyans there was this one monster in the patch, i weighed it before i ate it and it weighed 28 grams fresh. it was seriously one monster ass cyan.

so i had never had cyans before and i decided to eat that one mushroom. it was probably the hardest ive ever tripped on mushrooms. i really dont have any desire to be that high again.

cyans are not messing around lol. they mean business. and they are such beautiful mushrooms.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22149418 - 08/26/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I've never gotten the muscle aches from woodlovers that people talk about.  A high dose of any psychedelic will lay me out, I generally take the come up to peak lying down in darkness, listening to music, then get up and move around on the downhill side of the trip. 

Bodyfeel wise, high doses of cyans are actually incredible IME, a very roll-like almost MDA quality body-soul-gasm.  I always do tea though. 
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Yea neither have I man. I've always found them to be extremely clean mushrooms


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: Silky_Johnson]
    #22157357 - 08/28/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I've never gotten the muscle aches from woodlovers that people talk about.....

Bodyfeel wise, high doses of cyans are actually incredible IME, a very roll-like almost MDA quality body-soul-gasm.  I always do tea though. 
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Yea neither have I man. I've always found them to be extremely clean mushrooms







Same here...I've had some trips with them where my muscles were a bit tight, but this aspect was no more pronounced than what I experience with cubes or other psychedelics like LSD or mescaline. Generally speaking, they do have a "clean" and euphoric feel about em'. I get laid out during the peak regardless, but the feels in the body isn't uncomfortable at all.








I found one patch of Cyans last season, the patch provided me with somewhere around 2/3rds of an ounce dry throughout the winter. The patch was right around the corner from my place, so during the winter if I wanted to trip on fresh specimens I'd just go for a walk and pluck my dose out of the ground.


Some from my first harvest of that patch....










I found a few other, larger, patches of allenii too...ended up with around 1/4lb dry for the season. I ate my fair share of em' and have shared LOTS and LOTS of them with friends and folks I cross paths with at festivals and gatherings & things. I'm getting down to the bottom of my bag at this point, so I'm really looking forward to the approaching mushrooms season...and hoping the rains come early, and in sufficient amounts :yesnod: ....and hoping this drought we're in hasn't been detrimental to my patches around town.














I've been wanting to eat a solid dose of cubensis, preferably fresh (never ate a fresh cube before), just for the sake of comparison between em' and cyans or allenii.....I know the actives are the same in all these mushrooms, but the different ratios of the actives and perhaps trace amounts of other chemicals might contribute to the little differences some people notice between species....or it's entirely placebo :shrug: :smirk: .


....but these cyans and allenii certainly have a clean feel in the body and clarity about the mind, with most of my experiences with them.


I also encountered my first panic/anxiety attack whilst tripping, IE my first ever "bad trip" out of 100+ trips over 9 years, from those allenii this past winter :lol: ....that was nooo fun, still have lingering anxiety from it .









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the first time i found cyans there was this one monster in the patch, i weighed it before i ate it and it weighed 28 grams fresh. it was seriously one monster ass cyan.

so i had never had cyans before and i decided to eat that one mushroom. it was probably the hardest ive ever tripped on mushrooms. i really dont have any desire to be that high again.

cyans are not messing around lol. they mean business. and they are such beautiful mushrooms.







Yup, their potency is absolutely no joke...especially when fresh! Nothing like eating them while fresh.



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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: openmind]
    #22157449 - 08/28/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Wood lovers (ps. subaeruginosa) give me hard to handle, nauseating, anxiety inducing trips nearly every time now! But they are Very beneficial every time also! I suppose you just have to endure the bad to reap the rewards.  :evilpuke:


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: Devoswitch]
    #22157658 - 08/28/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Fascinating cool thread, even tho I'm currently a cacti man rather than a shroom man. Monitoring :laugh:

I've had only one mushroom trip and that was about 2 grams only. Definitely tripping but mildly so. Made my stomach and body feel bad but my brain feel good.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22157811 - 08/28/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

(Edit.....just noticed that the thread title is about psilocybe cyanescens not pans cyans......but I guess this post fits in with the woodlovers theme)

I've had heavy body load and total headfuck from pans cyans...... but also really impressive visuals. I'm not too convinced about the "different mushrooms / different trip" stuff, I think there might be genuine differences, but mostly it's down to underlying potency, or normal variation between one trip and another. Also high potency in a low volume changes the onset compared to, say, eating a load of sclerotia and waiting for it to digest.

(Below is re-posted from a previous thread on cyans):

3 memorable and varied experiences on pans cyans if you are interested (fairly long but detailed trip reports):

When the walls glow with psychedelic fire – a colorful pans cyans experience

It's raining ideas – some things I wrote while I was tripping on pans cyans

Pans Cyans: Outrageous Visuals, God & the Zoo Inside My Brain




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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22157874 - 08/28/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Interesting thread...and interesting notion about the qualitative and subjective differences from cubensis.  Since the vast majority of people, myself included, have never been afforded an opportunity to compare, I find these reports intriguing.  Keep 'em coming!

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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: Nature Boy]
    #22158520 - 08/28/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just a PSA: A lot of people get temporarily paralyzed on certain strains of wood-lovers. If this happens to you, don't panic.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: Sheekle]
    #22158729 - 08/28/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Just a PSA: A lot of people get temporarily paralyzed on certain strains of wood-lovers. If this happens to you, don't panic.



ive really only heard of that happening on absurdly high doses.


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    #22158749 - 08/28/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Interesting thread...and interesting notion about the qualitative and subjective differences from cubensis.  Since the vast majority of people, myself included, have never been afforded an opportunity to compare, I find these reports intriguing.  Keep 'em coming!

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There is definitely something subjective to it, but remember that there are other alkaloids in different species of mushrooms, it's not like the minor differences you find in strains of cubensis. The presence or lack thereof of indoles like baeocystin can greatly alter the trip.  There may even be alkaloids as yet unidentified that contribute to the effects.  This chart could probably use some updating but it's worth a look at to see.  It doesn't show much of a difference between cubes and cyans other than cyans being a bit more powerful.  I'd really like to see the profile for ovoids, I would suspect high baeocystin levels.     

IME, cubes have a lot more of a witchy, dark and sinister vibe to them, whereas woodlovers are a lot more crystalline and colorful.  Cubes feel like black magic and bad juju to me whereas woodlovers feel purifying and healing.  I just stopped taking cubes after too many bad trips.  Could be totally psychosomatic but I think there must be something to the balance of the alkaloids.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: Silky_Johnson]
    #22158780 - 08/28/15 10:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Just a PSA: A lot of people get temporarily paralyzed on certain strains of wood-lovers. If this happens to you, don't panic.



ive really only heard of that happening on absurdly high doses.



It happens on normal doses, sometimes the morning after the trip even. There used to be some big thread in this forum about it, it had to do with like some sort of histamine in them or something to that extent I believe.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: Sheekle]
    #22158836 - 08/28/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Just a PSA: A lot of people get temporarily paralyzed on certain strains of wood-lovers. If this happens to you, don't panic.



ive really only heard of that happening on absurdly high doses.



It happens on normal doses, sometimes the morning after the trip even. There used to be some big thread in this forum about it, it had to do with like some sort of histamine in them or something to that extent I believe.



huh, i guess ill have to read up. glad thats never happened to me. it happened to my girlfriend once and her hands remained paralyzed for multiple days afterwards.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: Silky_Johnson]
    #22158868 - 08/28/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Wow days afterwards? That doesn't sound good at all, usually it's only for like 20-40 minutes IIRC


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: Sheekle]
    #22158898 - 08/28/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

she was picking and eating truly absurd amounts of them days in a row but afterwards she had trouble moving her arms, and had no mobility in her hands for a couple days.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: Silky_Johnson]
    #22158956 - 08/29/15 12:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I have a question for all of you.

For those of you saying you get nausea or a bad body load from cyans, how are you consuming them.

Same goes for those of you who find them clean.

I want to see if some of you are making tea or using them fresh as apposed to dry or eating them raw :strokebeard:

Also I am pretty sure I remember reading about the paralysis someone moved mycelium from a coastal patch that was causing paralysis up north away from the coast. Then when it flushed it did not cause any paralysis. I am not positive but I remember reading it and thinking maybe it was just coastal woodlovers. Just more food for thought.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: musiclover420]
    #22158968 - 08/29/15 12:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i dry mine under a lamp over a course of a few days, then i powder them and mix with juice.

Im afraid to eat them raw, i always think there is some nasty bacteria on them from the forest i picked them from.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22158976 - 08/29/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I am really :stoned: so please remind me if you get nausea from them or not :lol:

I feel like eating them raw and or maybe fresh could cause more stomach discomfort then say a well made tea.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: musiclover420]
    #22158979 - 08/29/15 12:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I do get a little sickness, but the major side effect is the muscle pain and lethargy.

its no bueno, you immune guys are super lucky.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22159121 - 08/29/15 01:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hmmm....I wonder if wood lovers are just really good at picking up chemicals from the substrate or the environment and this is what is responsible for the varied effects.  I would perhaps shy away from shrooms too close to a road where exhaust fumes, gas, oil, or other nasty chemicals can drain into the soil.

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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: Nature Boy]
    #22159137 - 08/29/15 01:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I have definitely wondered some similiar stuff, especially with things like pesticides and or other chemicals applied in many places.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: Nature Boy]
    #22159148 - 08/29/15 01:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Tea seems to be the best way to eliminate the nausea from any species IME (dont have too much experience with cyans tho.) My stomach over time just ended up tending to cause the discomfort/nausea when I would eat the actual fruits. Seemed to do the same even if I ate the fruits after making tea out of them. So I think for me it's just eating the fruits themselves but I really cant say for sure and that could just be my personal experience and bodys reaction to it:shrug:

Either way I only make tea nowadays and dont consume the soggy fruits (most of the alkaloids would be in the tea anyway)


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: musiclover420]
    #22159273 - 08/29/15 04:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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For those of you saying you get nausea or a bad body load from cyans, how are you consuming them.




I mentioned body load from pans cyans, but I think it was more to do with sheer potency than a specific characteristic. These were commercially produced and eaten fresh (before they banned them in Holland). I liked these because they were very strong and there wasn't so much material to eat compared to cubes. A standard 12g fresh dose would end up like a piece of chewing gum in my mouth.

I also tried them dried a couple of times; the first time I'd never been so overwhelmed by such an insignificant-looking quantity of shrooms! Visuals were outrageous (that was the zoo trip I linked in previous post). The next time I ate them dried (roughly 1g) it wasn't anything special - there's a comment in my trip journal:

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My OEV on 1g of Hawaiians are no different and no better than sclerotia. I'm pretty sure they are dose dependent, not strain dependent.




It would be nice to try the psilocybe cyanescens for comparison but it's unlikely I'll get the chance :mushroom2:


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: musiclover420]
    #22159997 - 08/29/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I have a question for all of you.

For those of you saying you get nausea or a bad body load from cyans, how are you consuming them.

Same goes for those of you who find them clean.

I want to see if some of you are making tea or using them fresh as apposed to dry or eating them raw :strokebeard:

Also I am pretty sure I remember reading about the paralysis someone moved mycelium from a coastal patch that was causing paralysis up north away from the coast. Then when it flushed it did not cause any paralysis. I am not positive but I remember reading it and thinking maybe it was just coastal woodlovers. Just more food for thought.




Yes.  Tea.  Always.  I started doing tea exclusively about 10 years ago and would never go back to eating the mushrooms.  No nausea, no cramping, no unpleasant bodyload.  Half the time on a real high dose the bodyfeel will be pure hedonia like  nice strong roll.
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22160367 - 08/29/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup:

Thanks guys, I may start a poll at some point becouse I want to say see bigger statistics :tongue2:

I have always wanted to try Pan cyans too, I have read some great stuff.

Seems like tea is the way to go though, which makes sense.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: Nature Boy] * 1
    #22160904 - 08/29/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I have a question for all of you.

For those of you saying you get nausea or a bad body load from cyans, how are you consuming them.

Same goes for those of you who find them clean.





I don't notice any difference in the nausea or body load between eating em' dry or fresh and on an empty stomach, or making them into a tea. Cubes and woodlovers have never bothered my stomach other than one occasion where I experienced about 20 minutes or so of uncomfortable sharp pain in the stomach around 45 minutes after eating them. I always eat them on a relatively empty stomach, and sometimes eat a little fruit or something 20 or 30 minutes after.

I've never puked or had nausea from em'.



Since they never bothered my stomach I always just ate them plain.....chewed up, sometimes held in my cheeks and under the tongue for a little while before swallowing, and washed down with water...This past winter I tried making a tea for the first time and now prefer to take them in a tea. I prefer this because it's a more rapid come up, and it's easier and way more effective to re-dose with a tea. It's a shorter trip, but I usually brew up a bunch of tea and re-dose once or twice.








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Hmmm....I wonder if wood lovers are just really good at picking up chemicals from the substrate or the environment and this is what is responsible for the varied effects.  I would perhaps shy away from shrooms too close to a road where exhaust fumes, gas, oil, or other nasty chemicals can drain into the soil.

N.B.





I, and others, have speculated the same.

There was a thread somewhat recently that was talking about this subject. One dude hypothesized and had a theory that the nasty body load and paralysis that some folks occasionally experience from wood lovers might have something to do with a histamine reaction (or something of that sort, if i remember correctly).

Don't have time to search for that thread atm, but will post it later when I do.








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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: openmind]
    #22160957 - 08/29/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Same here. That's why I love them so much because I can eat enough to trip extremely hard with no stomach discomfort like with cubes. Just seems to give a more clear headed visual mindfuck trip if that makes any sense haha


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22321421 - 10/01/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

How exactly do you make your tea? Do you buy into the lemon tek idea? I have never made mushroom tea but I often will get nausea and I always get muscle pains. Pan Cincts were the smoothest ride I have ever had. But I took Cyans about 7 years ago and hardly remember a thing about them other than the fact that the visuals were off the charts.

Also...people consistently say the high is shorter but also stronger. I don't want it to be too short or too strong though. I just want to get rid of the pesky nausea and muscle cramps.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: FryersQuest]
    #22321587 - 10/01/15 10:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Chop the mushrooms, soak in some lemon juice, then put the lemon tek with a cup of water into a pot on high, add some fresh grated ginger, chamomile and bring to a boil, let simmer for a few minutes, strain, squeezing all fluid from the pulp, then drink.  The acid converts all the indoles to a more bio-available form, keeps them in solution and protects them from oxidation, you get all the indoles out so you can discard the mushrooms, the ginger helps with your stomach and elimanates nausea and the chamomile inhibits some kind of enzyme that metabolizes the indoles so it actually potentiates the trip a bit.  Taking high doses with this type of tea is very intense, the come on is swift and strong, you are peaking within 1-1.5 hours and you're coming down after 2.5-3.  By 5 you're pretty much sober.  I like it this way, there is a bit of a rush in the way it kicks in that can be very euphoric and with 2g+ cyans can almost feel like a really trippy roll.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22321676 - 10/01/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The mushrooms will be dried so does that make a difference? I will be doing it with a couple of beginners...I know I will be fine either way but I just worry about the cyan dose/potency. Perhaps 1.2 grams is a good starting point?


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: FryersQuest]
    #22321840 - 10/02/15 12:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

For cyans noobs should have between .75-1.25g depending on their bravery. 1.25 is actually my social, need to function dose.  2g+ and I'm going to want to lie down and merge with the universe.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: Nature Boy]
    #22322833 - 10/02/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Hmmm....I wonder if wood lovers are just really good at picking up chemicals from the substrate or the environment and this is what is responsible for the varied effects.  I would perhaps shy away from shrooms too close to a road where exhaust fumes, gas, oil, or other nasty chemicals can drain into the soil.

N.B.



Yeah, there is both truth and speculation to that...they do tend to absorb some of the nasties from the wood itself. Also, they tend to have another compound baeocystin in them that some say may aid the paralysis.

The East coast wood lovers are ps. ovoidiocystadiata and are pretty plentiful in the Spring if you know where to look. These are my mushrooms of choice and they can rock your world. I've never had paralysis but have had doses where my mind refused to let my body walk, lol, if you know what I mean...every manual task became a chore and I just wound up lying under a tree feeling and viewing all the wonders of nature...almost absorbed into the earth. I love that feeling of oneness on high doses.
A high dose of ovoids for me was 4.5 grams...not sure if I wanna go that far again.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #22322849 - 10/02/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Ovoids, from what ive read, are serious business! Very potent.

4.5 grams is a lot of Ovoids. Thats pretty damn brave sir.

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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22329366 - 10/03/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

lol cyans will tear you up man gotta be careful with those ones :mushroom2:
I used to pick them nice and fresh out in florida too, big ones
They are just so much more intense than cubes , much more visual and trippy, they take you places for sure, cyans > cubes any day
They really take over your mind haha


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: SpiritShroom] * 1
    #22329812 - 10/03/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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lol cyans will tear you up man gotta be careful with those ones :mushroom2:
I used to pick them nice and fresh out in florida too, big ones
They are just so much more intense than cubes






They're referring to psilocybe cyanescens, and those don't grow down in Florida....in Florida ya'll do have Panaeolus cyanescens though. They grow off different substrates and fruit in different times of the year.....Pan cyans are certainly more potent than a cube, and psilocybe cyans are right on par if not a bit more potent than the Pan cyans.

These are the ps cyanescens....





....and these are pan cyans......






But yea...anyone I've ever given some of the cyans I've found, I always tell em' to be careful with them things :yesnod: . They've consistently been at least twice as potent as any cube I've ate. I have always wanted to eat a cubensis freshly picked though (and wild, I've only ever ate dry cubes grown by some random person I don't know)....because even with cyans, when I eat them shortly after picking em' from a patch I notice a pronounced "zest" of potency and a certain aspect that isn't there when consumed dry.





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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens...... Experiances!!!!! [Re: openmind]
    #22329993 - 10/03/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I too think that fresh mushies have an extra zing.  Fresh cultivated cubes can be pretty damn strong, I think they're generally stronger than wild cubes as they've been selected for good genetics over the years.  I always laugh when people take about "dealer cubes" and how strong they are, though, would like to see them eat some fresh azzies. 
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