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MajickMuffin
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Early pinning Spawn to Coir help
#22145665 - 08/26/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I spawned some Colonized Popcorn Grain to Coco Coir.
In many containers, all seem to be colonizing it. In 2 containers I am seeing a couple pins, 1 pin per container. I cant tell what percentage of the sub is colonized, all I can tell is that it is indeed working on it.
What does this mean? Why are there pins? Can it continue to colonize as it grows a couple fruits? The Coir may be slightly over hydrated, it may be slowing down colonization speeds? But it is colonizing.
I spawned around 7 days ago at a ratio of around 1:10, If I had to guess its going to be another 7 days or less to finish.
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Re: Early pinning Spawn to Coir help [Re: MajickMuffin]
#22145670 - 08/26/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fruit it. It means you probably have a contamination in there.
In this hobby a little dry is 100x better then a little wet. Wet = bacteria. Dry = mist it a little.
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Re: Early pinning Spawn to Coir help [Re: taGyo]
#22145677 - 08/26/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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taGyo said: Fruit it. It means you probably have a contamination in there.
In this hobby a little dry is 100x better then a little wet. Wet = bacteria. Dry = mist it a little.
How would you propose I fruit it? It is in a tupaware container, should I take the cap off and put it into an SGFC? Or should I remove the substrate from the container?
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Re: Early pinning Spawn to Coir help [Re: MajickMuffin]
#22145692 - 08/26/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cap off, SGFC
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Re: Early pinning Spawn to Coir help [Re: taGyo]
#22145703 - 08/26/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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taGyo said: Cap off, SGFC 
Thanks man!
These 2 containers are the only ones that are showing pins, and less than usual colonization.
The others appear to be doing better but I cant really tell.
ONE MORE Q: Will it also continue to colonize? And since the top will be off, hopefully moisture will evaporate and allow the mycelium to continue colonization? (this is of course hoping it doesnt become contaminated)
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Re: Early pinning Spawn to Coir help [Re: MajickMuffin]
#22145725 - 08/26/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It will most likely stop colonizing if it's fruiting now, regardless of what conditions you keep it in. At this point you might as well put it into fruiting to aid fruit body development. Keeping them in a colonization environment will just cause the pins to suffer.
Full colonization is a major pinning trigger. It sounds like your mushrooms are trying to prolong their life cycle by pinning quickly and dropping spores rather then prolifically fruit. If you get two flushes out of it I'll be surprised 
Why don't you take a pic of everything you got goin'?
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Re: Early pinning Spawn to Coir help [Re: taGyo]
#22145758 - 08/26/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have to charge my phone for a few minutes then Ill snap some pics.
I took the cap off and placed it into SGFC, it actually appears to have colonized quite finely. From my eye it looks like it is 100% but for some reason some of the Coir does not 'appear' to be prolifically colonized.
There are more pins than I thought. Will report back in a few with pics.
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Re: Early pinning Spawn to Coir help [Re: MajickMuffin]
#22145813 - 08/26/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The pics are not very good quality, I think because my phone is low battery. But the white stuff is Mycelium, and it all appears to be quite healthy. But notice what appears to be a small layer of uncolonized coir ontop of what appears to be colonized coir.



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Re: Early pinning Spawn to Coir help [Re: MajickMuffin]
#22145816 - 08/26/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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That looks like there's a problem with it honestly.
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Re: Early pinning Spawn to Coir help [Re: taGyo]
#22145821 - 08/26/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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taGyo said: That looks like there's a problem with it honestly.
Im not doubting you.
But, like what? What appears to be wrong? (and why is there a small layer of what appears to be uncolonized coir ontop?)
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Re: Early pinning Spawn to Coir help [Re: MajickMuffin]
#22145825 - 08/26/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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By the way, the 'big puffs' of Mycelium are the grains of Popcorn spawned to the coir
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Re: Early pinning Spawn to Coir help [Re: MajickMuffin]
#22145841 - 08/26/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I couldn't tell you what but the way that shroom is growing in and the location it's growing from tells me there's a problem with that sub
The uncolonized coir on top means the mycelium hit something and stopped colonizing which means something else may have a hold of that substrate. The way the pinset (Or pin for that matter) is coming in tells me that it didn't fully colonize the middle. It's popping up everywhere it can but something is making it very unhappy.
Were these exposed to fruiting conditions before this at any point?
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Re: Early pinning Spawn to Coir help [Re: taGyo]
#22145848 - 08/26/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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They were not exposed to anything at all.
I pasteurized the Coir, added it to the container and then added the Spawn. As sterile as I could
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Re: Early pinning Spawn to Coir help [Re: MajickMuffin]
#22145855 - 08/26/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bad spawn then.
You'll know what it is after the first flush or a few days into fruiting.
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Re: Early pinning Spawn to Coir help [Re: taGyo]
#22145868 - 08/26/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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taGyo said: Bad spawn then.
You'll know what it is after the first flush or a few days into fruiting.
Thanks for the assistance man, I appreciate it.
I will update this thread as time passes. At least Ill get one fucking flush from this shit.
Hopefully my other containers are alright
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Re: Early pinning Spawn to Coir help [Re: MajickMuffin]
#22145873 - 08/26/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You may get more, I've been wrong before but those don't look right. Here's me sending you good vibes.
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Re: Early pinning Spawn to Coir help [Re: taGyo]
#22158150 - 08/28/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok so could using old Spawn cause Early Pinning?
All of my containers are doing this, Pinning before all the substrate was colonized.
The bag of colonized Popcorn Substrate was like 2 weeks sitting there after full colonization before I spawned it to Coco.
But the sub in the cintainers, the coco, appears to be fine with no contaminationms.
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Re: Early pinning Spawn to Coir help [Re: MajickMuffin]
#22158157 - 08/28/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Two weeks wouldn't do anything, it was most likely not the cleanest spawn in the world.
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Re: Early pinning Spawn to Coir help [Re: taGyo]
#22158182 - 08/28/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok. Then something wierd is going on. Atleats all the containers are fruiting. Ill get what I can get and maybe ill get some interesting results, but either way it would make some great outdoor beds.
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