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drum of rum
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Re: Big mistakes were made [Re: Kitasmush]
#22145767 - 08/26/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I haven't opened them since before I sterilized them. I also put the aluminum foil under the jar cap so that they have only been exposed to anything by me poking a hole through the aluminum foil during inoculation. we'll see what happens
Also here is a link to one of the guides I read that did not include the top layer of dry verm.
http://www.hipforums.com/forum/topic/411070-how-to-grow-34-lb-of-magic-mushrooms-in-under-3-months/
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taGyo
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Are you going to trust someone from Hipforums or someone from the shroomery 
Posted September 24 2011 - 09:14 PM That's a 4 year old tek brotha. Do you think it's still up to date?
Also:
Cut a ¼ inch hole in between the middle of the jar and the lip of it. Drill the 3/8 hole across from it. Take RTV and use it to glue a tyvek quarter sized piece over the 3/8 inch hole. Use the RTV to fill in the ¼ inch hole with globs sticking out both sides of it. Your lids should look like this.
He still has a filter. Tyvek is very common for grain jars. You have NO filter. There's a huge difference.
He's also using the wrong jars and those jars are WAY to packed. Mycelium likes air pockets.
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drum of rum
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Re: Big mistakes were made [Re: taGyo]
#22145860 - 08/26/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oops well thanks man I've certainly learned from this
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drum of rum
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I have another question.... If I taped over the inoculation holes will this be a problem? Do they need AE during this point and if so what can I do
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What kind of tape?
AE? Air Exchange? No. They need GE, Gas Exchange, this is not the same as fresh air.
If you used micropore tape, that is perfect, but a little too late. If you used any other kind of tape, then yea, it will be a problem, they will almost certainly stall (assuming they don't contam).
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drum of rum
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Is the tape on most band aids microporous?
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They only way to be able to skip the dry verm layer would be to use a filtered lid... Id redo the ones you forgot the dry verm layer...
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taGyo
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He wants to let it rock. Honestly I've seen crazier shit happen. Make more jars while you wait though.
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Re: Big mistakes were made [Re: taGyo]
#22147689 - 08/26/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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first mistake I didn't notice: 4 jars were burnt from the pressure cooker bottom.
You shouldn't have the jars touching the bottom but if they burned you probably left the heat on too high and the PC ran out of water. Be sure to turn the heat down once it reaches pressure. You need just enough heat to keep the water boiling.
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Re: Big mistakes were made [Re: Kizzle]
#22192002 - 09/05/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Update: 2-3 jars are showing clear signs of contamination.
On the other hand. I have around 5-10 jars with strong rhizomorphic growth. Very please with the outcome. I figure if I don't touch them or move them around too much my chances of contaminating then will be lower. Can anyone recommend a noob bulk substrate method? I've been looking into horse poop and gypsum but wbs also looks nice.
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Edited by drum of rum (09/05/15 09:56 AM)
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drum of rum said: Update: 2-3 jars are showing clear signs of contamination.
On the other hand. I have around 5-10 jars with strong rhizomorphic growth. Very please with the outcome. I figure if I don't touch them or move them around too much my chances of contaminating then will be lower. Can anyone recommend a noob bulk substrate method? I've been looking into horse poop and gypsum but wbs also looks nice.
WBS is not a substrate. WBS is grain, which you turn into spawn, which you then spawn to a bulk substrate. The easiest for first timers and bulk is definitely a coir/verm substrate. Horse poop will require proper pasteurization, and you really cant MS to poo.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19140341#19140341
Here's a good list of links by SB. Read them. It explains working with bulk grows.
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drum of rum
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Re: Big mistakes were made [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
#22192081 - 09/05/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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iSmkGrnBud said:
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drum of rum said: Update: 2-3 jars are showing clear signs of contamination.
On the other hand. I have around 5-10 jars with strong rhizomorphic growth. Very please with the outcome. I figure if I don't touch them or move them around too much my chances of contaminating then will be lower. Can anyone recommend a noob bulk substrate method? I've been looking into horse poop and gypsum but wbs also looks nice.
WBS is not a substrate. WBS is grain, which you turn into spawn, which you then spawn to a bulk substrate. The easiest for first timers and bulk is definitely a coir/verm substrate. Horse poop will require proper pasteurization, and you really cant MS to poo.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19140341#19140341
Here's a good list of links by SB. Read them. It explains working with bulk grows.
Mini Thank you I will look into it and I will also add pictures when the jars are fully colonized. I wonder who else successfully colonized jars without a contamination barrier? Can't find any logs or info on it. For good reason perhaps
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Edited by drum of rum (09/05/15 10:24 AM)
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drum of rum
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So here's an update on these jars with no vermiculite contamination barrier.
10 jars are left out of the 24 I started with. These jars are 40-80% colonized.
I think the fact that they don't have a verm layer helps with AE and is helping big time.
I'm worried about what I will see when I finally open the jars as I can see healthy vigorous growth all around the sides but the top can't be seen.
Hoping for the best
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