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why don't governments want us to do drugs* ?
    #22144831 - 08/26/15 07:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

howdy folks, I'm researching for a show I'm writing, and I'd like to know your opinion on this question:

"Why don't governments want us to do drugs*"

*=the ones they've banned

So this can be your personal opinion, a joke, or links to actual historical evidence as to why prohibition was introduced etc.
This can be in the states, or anywhere in the world.
Many Thanks!


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I'll be thanking posters and possibly asking follow up questions as I go along.
at the end I will print a list as to why you think your government doesn't want you to do drugs
cheers all!


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Re: why don't governments want us to do drugs* ? [Re: keeno] * 4
    #22144840 - 08/26/15 07:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think many drugs change the way a persons brain is wired, they allow people the chance to see truth.  Some people see truth and then go against the powers that run this world, some people spread their message and by doing so convert others to their way of thinking.  Of course big bro doesn't want people questioning things, they only want mass produced clones which bend over and take it up the ass on a daily basis.



That's just the tip of the iceberg.


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Re: why don't governments want us to do drugs* ? [Re: Lucis]
    #22144845 - 08/26/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

what a tip though eh?
Thanks for your input!


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Re: why don't governments want us to do drugs* ? [Re: keeno]
    #22144847 - 08/26/15 08:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Christianity.

EDIT: I mean early Christianity.


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Re: why don't governments want us to do drugs* ? [Re: keeno] * 2
    #22144894 - 08/26/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think it started off with good intention and fear of widespread damage by drug use, but now with current information and studies and the more knowledge we have on the subjext it changed from good intention to a controlling aspect.

Of course it's not so black and white but I think that's a decent part of it.

Or monry, they make way too much money arresting, fining, and charging people for drugs that legalizing them would lose a lot of money for a lot of departments quickly. Everything from court and legal systems, to police departments, to jails and further would he effected dramatically and in a way the current system is dependent on drugs staying illegal


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Re: why don't governments want us to do drugs* ? [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22144922 - 08/26/15 08:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Christianity.

EDIT: I mean early Christianity.





can you expand upon this?
not sure I understand your point


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Re: why don't governments want us to do drugs* ? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #22144929 - 08/26/15 08:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:hatsoff:

cheers for your thoughts Sir!


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Re: why don't governments want us to do drugs* ? [Re: keeno] * 2
    #22144936 - 08/26/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe they do want people to break those laws. It provides an excuse to expand police powers.


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Re: why don't governments want us to do drugs* ? [Re: psi] * 1
    #22144940 - 08/26/15 08:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think the whole world got scared of drugs when they saw how bad opium fucked china up.


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Re: why don't governments want us to do drugs* ? [Re: keeno] * 1
    #22144945 - 08/26/15 08:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Christianity.

EDIT: I mean early Christianity.





can you expand upon this?
not sure I understand your point




Well I'm not sure really, but at one point in history there was no drug taboo, and when the early Christians came they banned all psychoactive drugs they encountered during their conquests, as they were often asociated with paganism.
So I guess that is where the taboo came from.


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Re: why don't governments want us to do drugs* ? [Re: Turtletotem] * 2
    #22144961 - 08/26/15 08:28 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Turtletotem said:
Quote:

keeno said:
Quote:

Turtletotem said:
Christianity.

EDIT: I mean early Christianity.





can you expand upon this?
not sure I understand your point




Well I'm not sure really, but at one point in history there was no drug taboo, and when the early Christians came they banned all psychoactive drugs they encountered during their conquests, as they were often asociated with paganism.
So I guess that is where the taboo came from.





why blame the christians, intoxicants are banned in almost all religions.
thailand it 90% buddhis and the drug laws are far more strict


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Re: why don't governments want us to do drugs* ? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #22144976 - 08/26/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So they can tax alcohol and tobacco


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Re: why don't governments want us to do drugs* ? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #22145036 - 08/26/15 08:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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why blame the christians, intoxicants are banned in almost all religions.
thailand it 90% buddhis and the drug laws are far more strict




Eh, you're right. I'm just more fammiliar with the history of Christianity, being from the Netherlands and all that. So that was what sprung to mind.


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Re: why don't governments want us to do drugs* ? [Re: Turtletotem] * 1
    #22145256 - 08/26/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

The rich don't want a drug addicted workforce, the higher productivity results in higher profits.


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Re: why don't governments want us to do drugs* ? [Re: qman] * 4
    #22145262 - 08/26/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

because your a pussy and cant hang with the big dogs


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Re: why don't governments want us to do drugs* ? [Re: imnotbassfreak]
    #22145267 - 08/26/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

That's something bassfreak would say


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Re: why don't governments want us to do drugs* ? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #22149834 - 08/27/15 03:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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SirShroomsAlott said:

Or monry, they make way too much money arresting, fining, and charging people for drugs that legalizing them would lose a lot of money for a lot of departments quickly. Everything from court and legal systems, to police departments, to jails and further would he effected dramatically and in a way the current system is dependent on drugs staying illegal





thanks SirShroomsAlott.
seems madness to me, as arresting, prosecuting and putting people in jail costs the taxpayer doesn't it? I know the prisons make lots of money but does that get back to the government?
(it's different over here, we don't have as many privatised jails)


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Re: why don't governments want us to do drugs* ? [Re: psi]
    #22149836 - 08/27/15 03:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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psi said:
Maybe they do want people to break those laws. It provides an excuse to expand police powers.





cheers PSI,

so you think that it's a sort of honey trap?
they decided, these things are so good, we can incarcerate people, take them out of society?
to what end? cheap labour in prison? Racism? the hunt for more votes?


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Re: why don't governments want us to do drugs* ? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #22149839 - 08/27/15 03:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I think the whole world got scared of drugs when they saw how bad opium fucked china up.




cheers Apollyphelion

I don't really know much about the opium wars, apart from the British government were fucking cunts of the highest order
I'll research more about this period.
Do you think that it was an influence on Nixon, or much further back?


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Re: why don't governments want us to do drugs* ? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22149841 - 08/27/15 03:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

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Well I'm not sure really, but at one point in history there was no drug taboo, and when the early Christians came they banned all psychoactive drugs they encountered during their conquests, as they were often asociated with paganism.
So I guess that is where the taboo came from.




why blame the christians, intoxicants are banned in almost all religions.
thailand it 90% buddhis and the drug laws are far more strict




cheers Prisoner#1

in your opinion, do you think religion bans intoxicants because they're worried its
a) better than their religion/ allow people to discover the 'real truth'
b) harmful
c) other


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