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Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow!
    #22144460 - 08/26/15 03:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

This is my friend's first grow log here. He says hello to everyone!

He prepared quart jars of WBS spawn via doc34's tek. (with some slight variations such as lid design) and inoculated with MS syringes. The 4 strains were Golden Teacher, Hawaiian, Ecuador, and Mazatapec.



Two weeks later and the jars were fully colonized.



(Minus only one casualty caused by what he thinks must have been bacterial --- off-colored, slimy, wrinkled. Definitely not myc. Sorry no picture)

All other jars looked good, all white and healthy. He even thought that the mycelium looked like the pictures of rhizomorphic growth he had seen.





There were some "satellite" grains that the mycelium leaped up to colonize.



He then spawned them to straight straw pasteurized via RR's videos, In opaque mono tubs modeled after those in Fahtsters tek. He stacked them in a small closet with a fan blowing directly on them (he learned about not doing this later) and let them colonize. The myc very quickly ripped through the straw which had NOT been compressed (learned about this later, too.)



The Maz tub was lost to contamination, probably trich... (He didn't keep it in the house long enough to find out.) He hears trich is common in straw grows.

The holes had been covered with Tyvek tape during colonization. He was told that this and the crack under the lid allow for some GE but not FAE.



12 days later and the 3 remaining tubs seemed to be fully colonized.



The mycelium looked strange... a little bit stringy? Ropey? Not solid like other straw tubs he had seen. Did it look like this because it was "going aerial" to colonize over large air gaps between the straw? Or was it thirsty and searching for water?

Or was it good rhizomorphic mycelium? It looked like there were knots in the myc.



Either way, gotta press on with his project since he had vacation plans in the near future and this was on a timeline. He decided not to case this substrate as he heard straw fruits best without casing. So he went ahead and introduced fruiting conditions by removing the Tyvek tape and replacing it with polyfill - loose on top and tight in the bottom (just like your mother.) The fan in the room was pointed away from the tubs and a few 6500k fluorescents were turned on roughly 12-12. The lids were replaced with glad press and seal wrap with holes poked in it, à la Fahtster. He also fanned and misted (not necessary with a mono tub, but seemed like a good idea because he had read enough RR posts about FAE being so important.) Perhaps this was overkill. Time will tell.

Speaking of time, let's take a quick detour back to the early 1970's... Wait, are those chemtrails?



...And we're back.

It's been three days of fanning 4-ish times a day after misting with spring water (very special spring water, actually collected from a sacred spring.) Mostly misted the sides of the tub, but some fine mist did land on the substrate.

Upon close inspection he noticed this...



Can you see the pin?



First pin ever! It's the GT tub.

Now he's in the home stretch and still fanning and misting, hoping for more pins to develop on this and the other tubs.

He also snapped a few pictures of the myc in all three tubs to get opinions from the community.

Does any of this look odd?



Look too wet to you?



















Fingers crossed for good results.

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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22144633 - 08/26/15 06:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Nice work,
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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: bodhisatta]
    #22144647 - 08/26/15 06:44 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22144843 - 08/26/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Great job man that myc looks really good can't wait to see it fruit. :grin:


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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: tigerland]
    #22145003 - 08/26/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

good job awesome first grow straight to straw!!!!but ya Bodhi's right no need to be modest we know its you:shrug:cant wait to see them fruit:thumbup:


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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: tetherface]
    #22145013 - 08/26/15 08:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22145958 - 08/26/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

New pins on the GT tub!





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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22146460 - 08/26/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:goodmorning:


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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22147174 - 08/26/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm amazed at how fast these pins pop up and grow!

This is the first pin I have been tracking and look how much it's grown in only a few hours!

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Here's a close up of the myc. All the tubs look like this.



Could this little grey alien be the first Hawaiian pin?



Oi! What the bugger is that over in Ecuador?!



Here are the Tibetan singing bowls that they get to listen to when I'm fanning and misting.
OOOOOMMMMMMMM



And the holiday edition press and seal wrap... It feels like Christmas every time I open these tubs up!



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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22147181 - 08/26/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

just build your pin a selfie stick already:rolleyes:


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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22147206 - 08/26/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)


Updates soon to follow next time I visit him.

Lol op went from his friend growing to him admitting he did within two posts lol, you guys are good interrogators:p


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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22147581 - 08/26/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Anyone have any constructive comments?

TC's any word on my progress and how to proceed?


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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22147591 - 08/26/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Anyone have any constructive comments?

TC's any word on my progress and how to proceed?



your doing good man just keep it up


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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22163575 - 08/30/15 07:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Okay here is an update:

Hawaiian and Ecuador have pins




Here's the sprout


And GT is developing more


The mushrooms seem a little bit small... Is this because of lack of moisture? Low substrate depth (3.5 inches)?

Also what's up with this blueing of the mycelium? Could this be over drying? I am leaning towards this as I live in a very dry climate.


Any input would be appreciated. Especially TC's... Do you think the blueing is because it's too dry?

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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22163639 - 08/30/15 07:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

it doesn't take a TC to tell the bluing is from dryness:shrug: unless you dropped your phone on it when snapping pics or otherwise touched it roughly but it looks like it's drying out a bit as its definitely not glimmering with moisture like it should be which could be partly causing the small fruits but its prob just genetics since you inoculated with MS find a nice big cluster and clone it!!for your next run really though those shrooms don't look too small they just look like average pins to me:shrug: either way great job bro keep it up I just got into straw this summer I like how clean the mush is when it comes off of straw way easier to clean IMO and I waste less when "trimming" my mush butts...lolz i'm in the process of testing cold pasteurized straw ATM I have 2 tubs 100% colonized that im going to build a dub tub setup for it today to fruit as a kinda proof of concept hopefully it works out everythings gone great so far and this method of pasteurization is so cheap and easy id like to adapt it to my method if all works well :thumbup:


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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: tetherface]
    #22163905 - 08/30/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It's dry in both of those tubs.


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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: tetherface]
    #22163927 - 08/30/15 09:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the reply tetherface

Would you suggest I plug the polyfill more tightly? Mist more? Dunk?

I bet the second flush would be better after a dunk, huh?

Sorry, I'm just getting the hang of how to ask questions on this forum

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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: taGyo]
    #22163938 - 08/30/15 09:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22163942 - 08/30/15 09:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

When you're going for a second flush dunk it because it's lost a lot of moisture.

Mist it and tighten your top polyfill. You don't want the surface to ever be dry, you always want those tiny beads of moisture so if you dont' see them your tub could use a mist. Tightening your top polyfill restricts the amount of air coming in and thus the amount of air drying out your sub.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777

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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22167398 - 08/31/15 12:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Harvested the first mature fruits!

They ended up finishing small like I thought


There is still a second part of the first flush that is yet to mature.
Part 1 of the first harvest is 96 grams. Roughly 9 grams dry, right?


They seem nice and meaty with solid stems. They are bruising dark blue.


I came back from a day trip to the woods and found them ready to be picked. I think I got them at the right time, either just before or after the veils were breaking.




Side note:
The problem was low humidity! So I packed the polyfill in very tightly in the top and bottom holes and gave one solid mist today. The fruits seemed to do more today than they have in the past 2 or 3 days and I think it's cause they finally had the humidity they needed. Not to mention tons of new pins I definitely underestimated the dry desert climate I live in.

Next time I run tubs uncased I will be doing the wax paper tek, where you crumple up wax paper then lay it out flat over the substrate during fruiting. RR and others say this acts like a casing layer to provide a near 100% humidity micro climate at the fruiting surface.

My goal is wall to wall flushes of big, meaty fruits.
Probably gonna start experimenting with coir.
Anyone got experience with coir? Know of the right tek for me to use?
How about additives? Coffee, worm castings, etc.


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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome] * 1
    #22167405 - 08/31/15 01:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

my only suggestion is to skip the wax paper with tubs, just dial your shit in like the rest of us


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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: cronicr]
    #22167432 - 08/31/15 01:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

cronicr, do you suggest casing or no?


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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22167490 - 08/31/15 02:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i like to case shit, not needed by any means but it can work out great!


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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22167491 - 08/31/15 02:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Cubes do not need casings, some say it help, some says it does not :shrug:
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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Yerow]
    #22167650 - 08/31/15 04:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

with straw only tubs, it really helps to case IME.  i lay it on top right at spawning to help hold the straw down.  i like it thick, maybe 1/2" or so.  u can bucket a brick, keep leftovers, or sterilize them, whatever u feel ok with.

no need to case with more, or after the fact with peat later.  although, u can use more coir to patch if it looks like ur spread is going to be uneven.




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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22167674 - 08/31/15 04:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Looks amazing in my opinion :crazy2:
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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22168335 - 08/31/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the replies, guys.

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with straw only tubs, it really helps to case IME.  i lay it on top right at spawning to help hold the straw down.  i like it thick, maybe 1/2" or so.  u can bucket a brick, keep leftovers, or sterilize them, whatever u feel ok with.

no need to case with more, or after the fact with peat later.  although, u can use more coir to patch if it looks like ur spread is going to be uneven.





blindingleaf, I assume you mean bucket a brick of coir? as in bucket tek?
Do you use verm with that such as 50/50+ casing mix?

Over all, progress has really picked up speed since I added more polyfill. New pins popping up like crazy!
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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22168399 - 08/31/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

yea, just standard bucket TEK.  1 brick, 2 qts verm, couple tablespoons gypsum. 4.5-5qts water depending on how fine/coarse ur verm is.

u can skip the verm, but i usually add it cause ill use the leftovers for something else (more casing, bags, mini monos, etc, it stores well in bucket)


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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22168600 - 08/31/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Thanks for the replies, guys.

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with straw only tubs, it really helps to case IME.  i lay it on top right at spawning to help hold the straw down.  i like it thick, maybe 1/2" or so.  u can bucket a brick, keep leftovers, or sterilize them, whatever u feel ok with.

no need to case with more, or after the fact with peat later.  although, u can use more coir to patch if it looks like ur spread is going to be uneven.





blindingleaf, I assume you mean bucket a brick of coir? as in bucket tek?
Do you use verm with that such as 50/50+ casing mix?

Over all, progress has really picked up speed since I added more polyfill. New pins popping up like crazy!
Thanks again for checking in guys...



Yea bro listen to leaf on this one  it's the easiest way to process substrate/casing  i exclusively use the bucket for coir/verm/gypsum  if you want to pasteurize anything else check out mudas proper bucket pasteurization tek  i find it interesting that you went straight to straw and skipped CVG  which is we're most ppl start good job bro:thumbup: sometimes ill bucket theCVG and pasteurize the additives (poo hydrated straw castings coffee.....whatever really) in half gallon jars in my PC RR style and I have had very good luck with that  although I'm not sure what the community thinks of that method:shrug: i think you will love coir when you give it a try that's how i do 75% of my tubs straight CVG cause it's so damn easy anyways amazing job bro keep it up:nyan:


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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22169885 - 08/31/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks guys.

Does anyone have a suggestion for the best cloning tek out there? Faht's oven bag perhaps? (love that guy)

I want to clone a good looking GT cluster that I have and it's gonna be ready really soon!

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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22169890 - 08/31/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Either put the pins on agar or break it in half and put it on agar:

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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22174975 - 09/01/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Harvest of the GT tub first flush is ongoing. I am trying to time it with the breaking of the veils.


I think the changing environment of these tubs cause the first flush to be uneven. First it was too dry, then there was enough humidity to get the job done, so lots more pins now. And the Ecuador and Hawaiian tubs are pinning more now too. They had a deeper substrate depth than the GT and I assume they just needed to colonize/consolidate a little longer.

To other newbies out there: consider the climate you live in when designing your tubs. I put a lot of quarter sized holes in my tubs and not a lot of polyfill. Won't be making that mistake again now that I see how happy they are with more moisture.

I was surprised to see that the bluing of the myc I showed in previous pictures is completely gone! I thought it was gonna be permanent but the mycelium healed itself...
It's a christmas miracle.

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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22195047 - 09/05/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

More pics of the harvest:








I took some spore prints of each strain:






More pins in Hawaii:


The sprout in Ecuador has a lot of pins around it... Is that a coincidence? Or is it giving off oxygen that is encouraging pinning? What do you all think?


Also, what do you guys think this brown color is? Metabolites?




FYI it smells fine in all of these tubs... Nice and clean and mushroomy.


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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22195111 - 09/05/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Damn, looks like the MS Gods shit on you.  :frown:


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...


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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22195520 - 09/06/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think it is metabolites, not sure though, but they tend to produce metabolites when they are fighting contams, i guess the contam is inside the sub, buts its ok since its no where near the fruits..


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Re: Multi Strain Straw Monotub Grow Log - First Grow! [Re: Amanita Ridehome]
    #22232126 - 09/13/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

HO

LEE

CRAP



Second flush monsters!!!

These caps are like baseballs.


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