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alexmir

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struggling with my last few trips.
#22144093 - 08/26/15 12:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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During my last few mushroom trips, I seem to be struggling with the come up of the trip. I look forward to the trip, and mentally prepare myself for it.
Then once the heaviness starts to set in, and I realize the trip is coming on I start to feel alot of negativity and regret taking the mushrooms. Out of the last 5 trips, 1 was good but over whelming, 2 were amazing and 2 were filled with a lot of negativity on the come up.
The last 5 trips I've taken were 3g, 1g, 2g, 1g, and 1.5g.
I ended up taking Xanax about an hour and a half in on the of the trips. It seemed to really help.
I think what might have caused the last 2 negative feelings trips was the fact that I spent them inside during the come up.
I hate to think that I need a Xanax to be able to make the trip enjoyable.
I've considered making tea, to make the come up a little quicker and smoother. Anyone have any advice, or have the same experience??
Thanks for any insight
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Re: struggling with my last few trips. [Re: alexmir]
#22144447 - 08/26/15 03:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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IMO, try taking a larger dose so that your ego cannot resist.
Then again, if you feel you shouldn't have taken the mushrooms, maybe there's a deeper issue you have yet to resolve or need to look at.
Are you responsible in your life? Anything you think you can/could be doing better?
Do you listen to any music during your trips? I find that good music can carry you through the rough times during a trip, helps to push through the negative thoughts/loops to focus on the music/sounds/visuals.
Could always change your setting as well, move some furniture around before the trip, to make the room feel more comfortable/flowing.
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Re: struggling with my last few trips. [Re: HamHead]
#22144470 - 08/26/15 04:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I am very responsible, I have a job making over 100G a year, I'm divorved, and have traditional shared custody, but spend alot of additional time with my kids beyond the normal weekends. (Btw i never take shrooms when I have them)
I love and respect mushrooms, and never take a trip lightly. I typically over think things/don't take a lot of risks that I haven't examined from every angle. I don't like to be out of control of my environment/of my self.
My fiance loves that I care so deeply for mushrooms and fully supports me taking them. When I was 17 (27 now) I had an extremely terrible trip that scared the shit out of me. I grew up pentecostal and never did anything wrong, and was told by my cousin that shrooms wouldn't be mush more intense than smoking weed, I was completely overwhelmed.
I didn't try them for probably another 7 years. I'm not sure if it has to do with me tripping inside my apartment, I seem to do better while on walks.
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Re: struggling with my last few trips. [Re: alexmir]
#22144475 - 08/26/15 04:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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They haven't been super bad trips, or scary. Just a heaviness (best way to describe it) that's makes me extremely uneasy, and that leads to negative feelings.
I don't wanna feel the need to take my anti anxiety medication when I take shrooms
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Re: struggling with my last few trips. [Re: alexmir]
#22144480 - 08/26/15 04:25 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You don't like to be out of control you say... Well, coming up on mushrooms is about just that: letting go of your control and allowing the mushrooms to show you what they want to show you.
For me personally, lower doses have me struggling to let go a lot more than higher doses. Like HamHead suggested, the higher the dose, the more you are forced to surrender.
The heavyness suggests a body load that is more pronounced to me on lower doses as there is a relative lack of other effects. On higher doses the mental effects are so pronounced that the body load, although very noticeable, is less distracting.
I would probably repeat the 3g dose you did to see if it gets any less overwhelming and how it affects your come up.
Maybe you could also try lemon teking it or making a tea to shorten the come up time?
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Re: struggling with my last few trips. [Re: GoldenEye]
#22145667 - 08/26/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah seems like you're taking too low of amount and never really being pushed past that initial come up period or spending too much time in it. When the comeup hits it goes though all your subconcious thoughts and everything you actually think and feel but may not speak, this is the time where you let go and let it show you what it needs to about yourself, you can't fight it off it never works, if it wants to show you negativity accept it and learn from it.
Use more make some tea! Make sure you're taking them for a reason and let go fully
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Re: struggling with my last few trips. [Re: alexmir]
#22145896 - 08/26/15 11:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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alexmir said: I am very responsible, I have a job making over 100G a year, I'm divorved, and have traditional shared custody, but spend alot of additional time with my kids beyond the normal weekends. (Btw i never take shrooms when I have them)
I love and respect mushrooms, and never take a trip lightly. I typically over think things/don't take a lot of risks that I haven't examined from every angle. I don't like to be out of control of my environment/of my self.
My fiance loves that I care so deeply for mushrooms and fully supports me taking them. When I was 17 (27 now) I had an extremely terrible trip that scared the shit out of me. I grew up pentecostal and never did anything wrong, and was told by my cousin that shrooms wouldn't be mush more intense than smoking weed, I was completely overwhelmed.
I didn't try them for probably another 7 years. I'm not sure if it has to do with me tripping inside my apartment, I seem to do better while on walks.
....who cares how much u make.... that statement is pretty ego filled and ego doesn't go well with mushrooms.
....man up on yer dosage and man down on yer ego....
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alexmir

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He asked if I was responsible in my life. To me that means job, relationship, family. I suppose a number wasn't necessary to say I had a good job, but I don't think it means I'm an ego filled person, because I'm not.
I will try making a tea next time, see if it helps with the body load and come up. I enjoy the lower doses, but I'll give a 3g trip another try
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Quote:
voodoochild1000 said:
....who cares how much u make.... that statement is pretty ego filled and ego doesn't go well with mushrooms.
....man up on yer dosage and man down on yer ego....
This^^
The reason I use mushrooms is to smash my ego into the dirt. I saw that after the 3g trip of yours, you didn't go past 2g the times after. Seems to me like they've scared you.
Just because you have a job making xx amount of dollars, does not make you responsible.
Why did you get divorced? If you don't mind me asking. 27 now you say, how old are your kids? When did you have them? Do you think you were ready at the time you got your girl pregnant? Living in an apartment you say, why not a house? Or did the wife take it when you divorced?
Sorry for digging deeper, maybe this is what the mushrooms should be doing, pointing out to you that you have all this 'responsibility' and it may be scaring you that you may not be ready for all of it and wanted some more 'play time' when you were younger.
Just my opinion, sorry for being too intrusive.
Take that three grams and DOUBLE IT!!! Then make your tea and smash your ego.
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Edited by HamHead (08/26/15 12:48 PM)
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Re: struggling with my last few trips. [Re: HamHead]
#22146673 - 08/26/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You are probably overdoing them. I find that if I take them more often than I should I get more difficult trips.
Tea is not the answer here, the come-up is smoothest when you slowly eat fresh ones
Then again about three grams also kicked my ass the other day after months on not taking anything
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Re: struggling with my last few trips. [Re: Tripsurfer]
#22154103 - 08/27/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Your problem is that you fear the shrooms in the first place. They want to help you, not destroy you. I had very similar problems to you, albeit on higher doses, and I still do sometimes. That anxious feeling you get when you first take the shrooms won't ever really go away, the come-up will almost always make you feel uncomfortable and somewhat regretful. Usually around the 30-45 minute mark I start to freak out and try to find every reason why dosing was a bad idea, and why it will go poorly.
It usually goes away once I start to peak. Just remind yourself when you are in the void that you took drugs, you are high as fuck, and EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE OK. If you ever get too anxious during a trip, just repeat to yourself aloud that everything will be fine, because it will be.
So in short, don't view the shrooms as an obstacle or an enemy. View them as a tour guide into your own mind, trust in them and they will show you the way. Keep your setting nice and comfortable, and just remember that you took drugs and will come down within a few hours.
Good luck, let us know how it goes!
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Re: struggling with my last few trips. [Re: xThunder]
#22154143 - 08/27/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree that fearing the mushrooms is the problem and in my experience the best way to deal with this is to face your fear while tripping. Just keep looking into the fear until it dissolves. Keep noticing that no matter how scared you get, nothing ever actually happens to you. You're always still here. No matter what the mushrooms do, you always survive it and your brain still functions afterward (even if a bit differently than before).
While I do get come up anxiety, for me the hardest part of mushrooms trips for me is near the end. That is when it gets most introspective and the happy swirly colors and euphoria are no longer there to carry me through. Thats when my ego says "ok I have had my fun and I am ready to stop tripping and go to bed now" but the mushrooms say hold on just a minute there. We have a bit more to show you, whether you want to see it or not. Did you think we were just about getting high and listening to music and maybe having an insight or two? well sorry, we are a bit more than that and nowits time for us to teach you.
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