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Bulk Cake Pan Questions..
    #22143135 - 08/25/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

So I am going to get straight to the point, I have had a little bit of luck growing in cake pans before but I never think I get the right results so I want to ask a pretty straight forward question for those here on shroomery.

I have Horse poo, vermiculite, and colonized BRF cakes.

Here is a picture of the containers I have available for use:



The one on the far right is 2 1/2 inches deep and 11 inches long 9 inches wide.

The one in the middle is 2 1/2 inches deep and 9 inches long 4 inches wide.

The one on the far left is 2 1/2 inches deep and 8 inches long 3 inches wide

I was wondering which of these pans would be best to do a bulk grow in.. if anyone can give me pics or simply tell me of experience they have had with something like this that would be great. I want to get a bigger yield but right now I dont have the time or money for a mono tub. My plan is to eventually move to a mono tub but until I get better with bulk in cake pans and doing brf cakes I want to avoid doing a mono.

What is the ratio of poo and verm that should be mixed together and how many cakes should I crumble up to use as spawn. I would really like to know what the best way to go about doing things with the materials I have on hand would be. Any help/advice is greatly appreciated and believe me I will rate individuals based on their usefulness in responses.


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Re: Bulk Cake Pan Questions.. [Re: EntheoGod]
    #22143314 - 08/25/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you want bulk then go with the biggest, pretty strait forward but I don't have a lot of experience the cyans.


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Re: Bulk Cake Pan Questions.. [Re: Laughingcowwa]
    #22143374 - 08/25/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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If you want bulk then go with the biggest, pretty strait forward but I don't have a lot of experience the cyans.



I don't recall pan cyans being mentioned. I used one or two dollar ten cup glad ware trays. The plastic is a better way to go with mycellium munching on aluminum. You should go with the larger pan,or just use two or three of the medium sized ones if sticking them in the shotgun fc. I think I used a similar set up,but with plastic shot glasses under each tray.

At least a 2:1 ratio of sub to spawn and keeping the bulk substrate mix at about 35-40% because of the vermiculite already present in the cakes. Search function after a moment may come up with something nice, but my experience with little trays worked rather well doing this with multispore genetics without problem.
Hope that helps a bit


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Re: Bulk Cake Pan Questions.. [Re: Xochi Phil]
    #22143376 - 08/25/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

And line those aluminum pans. Trimmed trash bag works fine.


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Re: Bulk Cake Pan Questions.. [Re: Xochi Phil]
    #22143421 - 08/25/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I didnt mention cyans lol. Thanks for the advice so far but what do you mean by 35 - 40%? Better yet what ratio should the verm and horse poo be mixed? The last time I used horse poo and verm I used 25% verm and 75% horse poo. After mixing that up I added enough water to get it to field capacity moisture content then I baked in the oven for 2 and a half hours with the temp set at 175 F. After that I allowed it all to cool then mixed roughly 2 cups of spawn (2 cakes) with 4 cups of substrate.

Would this method work or is there something else I should know. I have the problem of getting more than one flush to come with a cake pan. I get a OKAY first flush for a cake pan then I try to dunk and things dont work so well after that. Is there any specific methods to taking care of the cake pans? I would assume they require a little more humidity in the SGFC since they have more surface area that would need to have a decent moisture content to it for pins to develop.


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Re: Bulk Cake Pan Questions.. [Re: EntheoGod]
    #22143806 - 08/25/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Pasteurize properly. Look up Frank Horrigan's TEK. It's linked in cronicr's sig.

75% hpoo and 25% verm sounds perfect for Pans. Use the pan that you have enough sub for. 2:1 bulk:spawn ratio. Thin casing. Mist until you see pins, then stop misting. Misting Pan pins will make them abort. Use more FAE than for Cubensis. Some people water the casing between the pins with a syringe when needed. Definitely line the pan with plastic, the myc will eat it. Normal SGFC will work.

Honestly, if you have any more general questions about Pans, you might not be ready for them. They're not super hard, but they take care and background knoledge.


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Re: Bulk Cake Pan Questions.. [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #22143854 - 08/25/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I didnt say I wanted to do pan cyans.... but thank you very much for the advice on bulk grow cubensis. I am doing those and need to know the specifics about growing those in cake pans.. I do have a question that has to do with something you said though, when the myc has fully colonized the substrate in the pan do i apply the casing layer of dry verm then and let it incubate longer?


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Re: Bulk Cake Pan Questions.. [Re: EntheoGod]
    #22143886 - 08/25/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I got you confused with another thread, lol.

You wouldn't case with dry verm. You case with field-capacity verm, if verm is all you have. If you want to case (you don't have to with Cubes, but with that thin of a sub it wouldn't be a bad idea) a 50/50+ casing is best. If you don't case, you'll just have to fan & mist more. I personally fruit as soon as I case, but some prefer to colonize it a bit. If you colonize it, don't let it go past about 25-30% colonization and then fruit it. Don't be surprised when the casing layer gets taken over before you see pins, that's supposed to happen.

Everything I said still applies, but you can mist the pins with Cubes.


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Pat The Bunny said:
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bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.


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Re: Bulk Cake Pan Questions.. [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #22143894 - 08/25/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you very much for the help. I appreciate the fact that you didnt give me a smart ass response. I like getting answers on here instead of being given the runaround. I have never applied a casing layer in the past when I tried cake pans so I wonder if it may have helped with the growth and contamination resistance...


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Re: Bulk Cake Pan Questions.. [Re: EntheoGod]
    #22143909 - 08/25/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well thanks for asking a decent question. Most people here want spoon-fed.


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bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.


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Re: Bulk Cake Pan Questions.. [Re: EntheoGod]
    #22144039 - 08/26/15 12:15 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Dude honestly though, your thread title is confusing. It looks like the thread is about growing pan cyans using bulk cakes. On the shroomery those aluminum pans are generally referred to as "trays."


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Re: Bulk Cake Pan Questions.. [Re: Sagescruffy]
    #22144060 - 08/26/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

^ truth.

That combined with another thread about Pan Cyans that's on the first page, combined with my drinking got me mixed up.


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If you're offended I don't give a shit and don't come see me no more.

Pat The Bunny said:
A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.


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