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more4u2c
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New to mono tubing, experienced in everything else please help with hoke sizes
#22142884 - 08/25/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok so I'm new to the mono tubs I've don't shotgun with horrible outcomes a martha with great outcomes and my own custom auto greenhouse thingy that was great but a pita to keep up was so auto as I would have liked it so I'm gonna give mono tubs a try.
My main question is do the hole sizes matter depending on tub size? I wanna do a micro mono first before going big in a 66qt so would I still use 1 inch holes on a small 4in x 8in mono tub set up or should the hole sizes be smaller? How many etc. And any other good mono tub advice would be great thanks
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Re: New to mono tubing, experienced in everything else please help with hoke sizes [Re: more4u2c]
#22142941 - 08/25/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Look up Pastys mini mono tek.
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Re: New to mono tubing, experienced in everything else please help with hoke sizes [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
#22142981 - 08/25/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pasty's is a great tek... But I went with standard holes (2 on long side at sub level and 1 up high on each short side) so total of 6 holes...I used this for both my 27q Mini-Monos and my 66q full Monotubs I think I used... 1.5 (1&1/2) inch holesaw...for all holes
I just saw you might be using really small tubs...you may want to make the holes a little smaller if so... I've never used any tub smaller than 27q Try them... They are cheap, easy cleanup... Great all around.
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Re: New to mono tubing, experienced in everything else please help with hoke sizes [Re: Darkhome]
#22143048 - 08/25/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I used 1 1/4 " holes on my 66 qt tub 2 on long sides at sub level 1 on the short sides near latch
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Re: New to mono tubing, experienced in everything else please help with hoke sizes [Re: Grim767]
#22143779 - 08/25/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pasty would be the guy to ask. I never got mini monos to work too well.
But really, a 66 qt is just as easy. You want 1.5" holes in that.
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Re: New to mono tubing, experienced in everything else please help with hoke sizes [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22143831 - 08/25/15 11:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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6 1.5" holes in a 27qt would dry the sub out really quick. I use 1.25" and only 4 holes. I made them with 6, but have to cover 2 of them up on the long sides or else it dries out....even with a casing...which I would do regardless the hole config. in a mini.
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Re: New to mono tubing, experienced in everything else please help with hoke sizes [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
#22143839 - 08/25/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well the configuration needs to be the same for optimal FAE. So 2 on top on the short sides and 4 at sub level on the long sides. Size would vary. Again, I never had much luck. I got some fruits for sure, but nothing I would ever consider optimal.
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Re: New to mono tubing, experienced in everything else please help with hoke sizes [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22143864 - 08/25/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: So after a great deal of experimentation I have come to a few configurations I like with a mini. A traditional hole configuration works well but needs to be cased. It will typically have very high FAE. The lids also fit poorly which also adds to any that sit at the tops of the stacks. Things like that do need to be considered for the tub you use.
20 quart with standard holes.

If you don't want to case or you may want to cut down the FAE a bit. I found that in a mono this size one hole on the bottom long side still and can achieve a decent pinset. These were uncased and still did all right. Remember my house is very dry, I'm certain this design will have better RH than mine did 
 Though I find they still do better cased, probably cause of my dry ass house.
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more4u2c
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Re: New to mono tubing, experienced in everything else please help with hoke sizes [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
#22144280 - 08/26/15 01:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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My humidity is pretty high as is seen in the picture one of the perks you get having a boat so my rate of evaporation from the tray I think will be minimal I also found these lil guys (L x W x H): 14.25 x 9.63 x 12.25 they are a lil pricey at 8 bucks each but I think they are a perfect go between from a mono reg/mini stand point plus they have a strong latching lid and easy single hand carry handle! And now that there is some air space in there you could go with a deeper substrate. Am I correct that ideal it should be 4 inches deep?
The whole reason I wanna do smaller multiple tubs is so if contam hits I have better chances on at least one making it vs if all my eggs were in one basket in a 66 mono
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Edited by more4u2c (08/26/15 01:47 AM)
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Re: New to mono tubing, experienced in everything else please help with hoke sizes [Re: more4u2c]
#22144331 - 08/26/15 02:16 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Had no issues with my 4bot 2top hole 1.25" hole congfiguration cased mini monos. Only starting to get dry after the 2nd flush, fixed up by a nice heavy misting. Homemade SFD used over the holes.
I recommend the 29qt hefty containers from Kmart/Target as opposed to the sterilite showoffs. The showoffs, while awesome, have these plastic structural support rails that make it a PITA to get a good fit with the liner. The hefty's are perfectly smooth inside (not common.) They are a good size and quite tall, which should provide a better pressure gradiant. Nice thick plastic and good quality too. Sterilite clearview 30qts~ have an indentation along each short side which is suboptimal for a liner as well.
The Doc_T shotgun hybrid design also worked fine for me with a casing. Just needs to be misted once or twice a day. 50%RH~ where I live.
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more4u2c
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Re: New to mono tubing, experienced in everything else please help with hoke sizes [Re: Machiavelliavore]
#22147076 - 08/26/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Last time and my first time I cased it got contam really bad I used jiffy mix as my casing so I'm a ltitle scared to case again lol is there a easier casing that's less proNE to contam like could I use perlite? My biggest problem I have is with pasteurization everything goes great until I get to the pasteurization of the substrate and casing
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Re: New to mono tubing, experienced in everything else please help with hoke sizes [Re: more4u2c]
#22147176 - 08/26/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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every time i hear mono tubing i picture pasty being towed behind a truck in his cronicr's hope tub in three feet of snow
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Re: New to mono tubing, experienced in everything else please help with hoke sizes [Re: more4u2c]
#22147208 - 08/26/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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more4u2c said: Last time and my first time I cased it got contam really bad I used jiffy mix as my casing so I'm a ltitle scared to case again lol is there a easier casing that's less proNE to contam like could I use perlite? My biggest problem I have is with pasteurization everything goes great until I get to the pasteurization of the substrate and casing 
Don't use perlite, just use coir. I use leftover CVG (coir/verm/gypsum) from the bucket. Leave a little when spawning the tub and use it later.
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Re: New to mono tubing, experienced in everything else please help with hoke sizes [Re: more4u2c]
#22147533 - 08/26/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would go with holes less than the width of roll of large tape so that it would be a single tape over each hole. saving yourself hours later doubling up two pieces of tape per larger hole.
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Re: New to mono tubing, experienced in everything else please help with hoke sizes [Re: filthyknees]
#22149462 - 08/26/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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filthyknees said: I would go with holes less than the width of roll of large tape so that it would be a single tape over each hole. saving yourself hours later doubling up two pieces of tape per larger hole.
Fuck that. Using a little more tape is worth the extra yield. Laziness and impatience gets you nowhere.
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more4u2c
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Re: New to mono tubing, experienced in everything else please help with hoke sizes [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22149823 - 08/27/15 02:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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36fuckin5 said:
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filthyknees said: I would go with holes less than the width of roll of large tape so that it would be a single tape over each hole. saving yourself hours later doubling up two pieces of tape per larger hole.
Fuck that. Using a little more tape is worth the extra yield. Laziness and impatience gets you nowhere.
Or you could just go buy 2 inch tape to cover a larger hole with one strip.
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Re: New to mono tubing, experienced in everything else please help with hoke sizes [Re: cronicr]
#22149937 - 08/27/15 05:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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cronicr said: every time i hear mono tubing i picture pasty being towed behind a truck in his cronicr's hope tub in three feet of snow
Shit . . .that actually happened 
OP are you using a sterlite 27 quart? Those are very square in dimension. Because of this i have found 4 bottom holes is pretty overkill. I use a 2 bottom hole configuration with those for sure unless you plan to case. I use 1.25" holes for all my monos. I need to update that write-up with more focus on the sterlite 27 quart since it seems to be a popular tub for these.
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more4u2c
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Re: New to mono tubing, experienced in everything else please help with hoke sizes [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22172427 - 09/01/15 03:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I went with this Lil guy it's I think 14 in tall and 7inwX9inL and I did a bunch of different hole set ups to experiment a bit
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Re: New to mono tubing, experienced in everything else please help with hoke sizes [Re: more4u2c]
#22174206 - 09/01/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good luck man. Hope it works out.
My first time out I did a "dub-tub" set up with 2 shoe box type totes duct taped together. 2 1/4" holes at the bottom at the casing level and 2 1/4" holes at the top of the 2nd tub (actually the bottom since they are inverted to be taped together). Worked out great.
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Re: New to mono tubing, experienced in everything else please help with hoke sizes [Re: DataVamp]
#22174213 - 09/01/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks good
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