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Phyton 27 and Physan 20 for Cobweb Control?
    #22140778 - 08/25/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Has anyone tried using phyton27 and/or Physan 20 for controlling cobweb mold?
I haven't had a chance to use it on cw, thankfully. But I have been misting a few of my casings to see if this stuff noticeably hurts mushroom mycelium. I have not seen any negative response, not even bruising to fruit.

Both product's are hardcore. I have them diluted 50% of normal. I see that some people get desperate when it comes to cob web mold. I think this would do the trick.



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Re: Phyton 27 and Physan 20 for Cobweb Control? [Re: tahoe]
    #22140871 - 08/25/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

If you go to the manufacturer website, they only recommend using phyton 27 on ornamentals.  If it were safe to consume they wouldn't have restricted themselves that way, their missing out on a huge market for vegetables and fruits.  There must be something seriously dangerous about this chemical like you said.


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Re: Phyton 27 and Physan 20 for Cobweb Control? [Re: tahoe]
    #22140878 - 08/25/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Honestly I didn't even think dactylium was much of an issue. I only ever saw it once and was special circumstances where my FAE was not up to snuff. Typically if your fruiting environment is dialed in for optimal FAE it will almost never show up.

Nearly every case of cobweb in the past couple years has been proven to be misdiagnosed and turns out to be either tomentose mycelium or a pin mold. However I am curious as to peoples opinions on this. Maybe cobweb is a bigger issue than I imagined.


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Re: Phyton 27 and Physan 20 for Cobweb Control? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22140953 - 08/25/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

For me it's a non issue, and I couldn't be any less concerned about keeping the sub clean at fruiting unless unless maybe I was breeding rabbits in my monos simultaneously.


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Re: Phyton 27 and Physan 20 for Cobweb Control? [Re: invitro]
    #22141002 - 08/25/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I know copper is no joke when taken internally.
These measures are drastic and should probably only be used as a last resort.
It's all about moderation. A lil bit isn't going to hurt.


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Re: Phyton 27 and Physan 20 for Cobweb Control? [Re: tahoe]
    #22141036 - 08/25/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's the picric acid that worries me not the copper.  Copper is safe to spray on veggies.  Government regulations are so lax about health issues in the US that when they restrict something for consumables it probably pays to sit up and pay attention.


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