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Disinfecting and humidifying fruiting chamber with lemon juice?
    #22140194 - 08/25/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I have no experience in growing mushrooms nor do I plan on doing it anytime soon (unfortunately) but I have done a bit of research on growing them and I've read a lot that putting lemon juice on your shrooms intensifies the trip.
So I was wondering if you made a lemon juice/water mixture with a ratio of about 1:20, do you think this would help the potency of the shrooms while they're fruiting? Or do you think the acidity of the lemon would hurt the mycelium? I was thinking you could dilute it enough so that it wouldn't harm your yield. 
Sorry if the idea is stupid but I just thought I'd share it in case I might be onto something :stoned:


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Re: Disinfecting and humidifying fruiting chamber with lemon juice? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22140214 - 08/25/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

can you link this research as far as i know thats bull shit :shrug:


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Re: Disinfecting and humidifying fruiting chamber with lemon juice? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22140221 - 08/25/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I make lemon tek by squeezing out a bunch of lemons into a cup. Then I crush up my shrooms and let them float in the cup for a while, maybe 10-30 minutes depending on what I'm doing or how bad I want to drip.

Then I hold my nose and knock it all back. No need to add the water :shrug:. Chase it with OJ and you'll be in lala land in no time.

Shroom tea I do similarily too, the key is to crush it up as good as possible. I have a coffee grinder or I'll just crush them by hand sometimes.

The lemon draws out and converts some of the psychoactive ingredients into a more easily digested and usable form for your body which is why it works. Pouring it on mycelium will do nothing :/.

@Trip It works :lol:, I've done it. It enhanced the visuals two fold but I didn't get any of the spirituality.


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Re: Disinfecting and humidifying fruiting chamber with lemon juice? [Re: taGyo]
    #22140237 - 08/25/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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can you link this research as far as i know thats bull shit :shrug:



Nope :laugh: like I said it was just an idea I had. If you're talking about the lemon making the shrooms more potent, there's a lot of teks about that on the shroomery.

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I make lemon tek by squeezing out a bunch of lemons into a cup. Then I crush up my shrooms and let them float in the cup for a while, maybe 10-30 minutes depending on what I'm doing or how bad I want to drip.

Then I hold my nose and knock it all back. No need to add the water :shrug:. Chase it with OJ and you'll be in lala land in no time.

Shroom tea I do similarily too, the key is to crush it up as good as possible. I have a coffee grinder or I'll just crush them by hand sometimes.

The lemon draws out and converts some of the psychoactive ingredients into a more easily digested and usable form for your body which is why it works. Pouring it on mycelium will do nothing :/.

@Trip It works :lol:, I've done it. It enhanced the visuals two fold but I didn't get any of the spirituality.




I know pouring the mycelium wouldn't do anything but the fresh shrooms are about 90% water which they absorb from the humidity so I was thinking the lemon might absorb into the shrooms themselves more than the mycelium


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What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
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Re: Disinfecting and humidifying fruiting chamber with lemon juice? [Re: taGyo]
    #22140242 - 08/25/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

what wait hes not talking about growing with lemon juice :eek: injesting it with lemon juice :shrug:


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Re: Disinfecting and humidifying fruiting chamber with lemon juice? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22140255 - 08/25/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Oh you're right :lmafo:, I thought he meant ingesting it. My bad, you were right Trip

But wait a second:

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I know pouring the mycelium wouldn't do anything but the fresh shrooms are about 90% water which they absorb from the humidity so I was thinking the lemon might absorb into the shrooms themselves more than the mycelium



No :laugh2:

Shrooms get their water from the substrate, the environment is to promote pin development and healthy growth. The humidity in the air doesn't contribute to the water content in the mushrooms. I'd hit ye 'olde google stick :wink:


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Re: Disinfecting and humidifying fruiting chamber with lemon juice? [Re: taGyo]
    #22140273 - 08/25/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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taGyo said:
Oh you're right :lmafo:, I thought he meant ingesting it. My bad, you were right Trip

But wait a second:

Quote:

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I know pouring the mycelium wouldn't do anything but the fresh shrooms are about 90% water which they absorb from the humidity so I was thinking the lemon might absorb into the shrooms themselves more than the mycelium



No :laugh2:

Shrooms get their water from the substrate, the environment is to promote pin development and healthy growth. The humidity in the air doesn't contribute to the water content in the mushrooms. I'd hit ye 'olde google stick :wink:



okay... my point being if you mix it in the freaking water will the fruits absorb the lemon juice as well and be more potent? I don't know why this is so difficult for me to explain lol


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What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
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Re: Disinfecting and humidifying fruiting chamber with lemon juice? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22140282 - 08/25/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:shrug: do that research i dout any one has did it but why not be the first :thumbup:


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Re: Disinfecting and humidifying fruiting chamber with lemon juice? [Re: tripdawg420]
    #22140292 - 08/25/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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:shrug: do that research i dout any one has did it but why not be the first :thumbup:



Something I'll want to try if I ever get into a position where I can start growing and have room for trial and error :laugh:
It's just an idea I wanted to bring up to see the feedback I might get. Haha sorry if I made some of you cringe at the thought of this :lol:


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What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
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Re: Disinfecting and humidifying fruiting chamber with lemon juice? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22140301 - 08/25/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's not difficult, we're saying no one has tried it and it sounds like a little crazy. Genetics are a key, perhaps the most important, component in potency. I explained why lemon juice enhances the trip.

Psilocybin is what is the psychoactive drug in dry mushrooms. The acids in the lemon juice break down the psilocybin into a more usable form for your body. That is why it enhances the trip. If you were to add it to fresh, growing mushrooms (it would have to be in the dunk water or the water used to treat your substrate. For instance you'd have to put it in your coir water because the mushrooms get the water from the substrate or use it in place of the water in BRF. Misting it won't do anything but attract bugs) I have no idea what it would do but most likely it wouldn't convert the psilocybin, and if it did it would probably HURT potency more then enhance it.

The reason why I say this is to dry mushrooms you put them in a dehydrator for 12 hrs on 160f. During this time the other chemical, Psiloscin (Which is why fresh mushrooms have a different trip/kick then dried), breaks down due to the exposure of heat. It's a very unstable chemical. If lemon tek converts the tough Psilocybin into something our body can use more easily chances are the resulting chemical is not very stable and would degrade during the drying process.

If it does SOMEHOW get into the mushrooms and convert the psilocybin this new chemical will most likely not be able to be dried so you'd have to eat it fresh IF this works, otherwise you'd actually be looking at WEAKER shrooms.

But give it a shot :shrug:, this is all conjecture.


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Re: Disinfecting and humidifying fruiting chamber with lemon juice? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22140306 - 08/25/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

motherfuckers have use rattlesnake posion to do bad ass shit so :shrug:


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Re: Disinfecting and humidifying fruiting chamber with lemon juice? [Re: tripdawg420]
    #22140321 - 08/25/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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It's not difficult, we're saying no one has tried it and it sounds like a little crazy. Genetics are a key, perhaps the most important, component in potency. I explained why lemon juice enhances the trip.

Psilocybin is what is the psychoactive drug in dry mushrooms. The acids in the lemon juice break down the psilocybin into a more usable form for your body. That is why it enhances the trip. If you were to add it to fresh, growing mushrooms (it would have to be in the dunk water or the water used to treat your substrate. For instance you'd have to put it in your coir water because the mushrooms get the water from the substrate or use it in place of the water in BRF. Misting it won't do anything but attract bugs) I have no idea what it would do but most likely it wouldn't convert the psilocybin, and if it did it would probably HURT potency more then enhance it.

The reason why I say this is to dry mushrooms you put them in a dehydrator for 12 hrs on 160f. During this time the other chemical, Psiloscin (Which is why fresh mushrooms have a different trip/kick then dried), breaks down due to the exposure of heat. It's a very unstable chemical. If lemon tek converts the tough Psilocybin into something our body can use more easily chances are the resulting chemical is not very stable and would degrade during the drying process.

If it does SOMEHOW get into the mushrooms and convert the psilocybin this new chemical will most likely not be able to be dried so you'd have to eat it fresh IF this works, otherwise you'd actually be looking at WEAKER shrooms.

But give it a shot :shrug:, this is all conjecture.



That makes a lot of sense. Sorry I didn't fully understand it the first time you described it (my fault). Maybe I'll get really potent fresh shrooms? :laugh: haha

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motherfuckers have use rattlesnake posion to do bad ass shit so :shrug:



Holy shit are you serious?


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Re: Disinfecting and humidifying fruiting chamber with lemon juice? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22140328 - 08/25/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

ya :thumbup:


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Re: Disinfecting and humidifying fruiting chamber with lemon juice? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22140332 - 08/25/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yup, it breaks down the cell walls and helps to create new strains with two different spore prints. That's how RogerRabbit created a strain of shrooms. Take fresh prints and put them on the same agar plate with a little bit of snake venom and the results could be a new strain :thumbup:

It's a little more complicated then that but you get the jist :lol:


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Re: Disinfecting and humidifying fruiting chamber with lemon juice? [Re: taGyo]
    #22140343 - 08/25/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well at least I learned some things from this post O.O
That's nuts! :whoa:
This site never ceases to amaze me. First it was DMT and now it's snake venom


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What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
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Re: Disinfecting and humidifying fruiting chamber with lemon juice? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22140352 - 08/25/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry that I was getting frustrated for misunderstanding what you guys were trying to say to me :stoned:


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PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek
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How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: Disinfecting and humidifying fruiting chamber with lemon juice? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22140361 - 08/25/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

No problem, I should have read it as well as Trip did :lol:, I thought you were just talking about lemon in dry shrooms there for a minute.

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Re: Disinfecting and humidifying fruiting chamber with lemon juice? [Re: taGyo]
    #22140410 - 08/25/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

As already stated, the citric acid in the lemon juice helps break down the compounds to more digestible forms for us, sort of like predigesting it. It allows more of the compounds that are already there to be bioavaiable to us, it does not increase the actual potency, it gives the illusion of more potency.

Spraying lemon juice onto fresh growing shrooms would not give you the affect you are looking for and would probably ruin your flush.

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First it was DMT and now it's snake venom



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Re: Disinfecting and humidifying fruiting chamber with lemon juice? [Re: Juiceh]
    #22140618 - 08/25/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I just want to add if you are making tea or cooking with shrooms I wouldn't crush it up as finely as possible... I've wasted shrooms multiple times from being too busted up and not being able to remove them from whatever I'm about to consume. It expands quite a bit as well if you make your own tea bag - don't pack it too full, it's not fun choking back powdered shrooms after your tea bag explodes


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Re: Disinfecting and humidifying fruiting chamber with lemon juice? [Re: newrook]
    #22140623 - 08/25/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Oh, I just drink it with the stuff still in there :shrug:


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