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dunking monotubs
    #22138154 - 08/24/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ive been reading about dunking monotub substrates.  I read eatyu's journal post about dunking substrates(and the chiefs tribal...) and it(eat yus) says its geared towards UNcased substrates. I didn't see theChief state whether his was for cased or uncased. i was wondering if it would make much of a difference if dunking a cased substrate.  If not, if there is any methods you use it would be cool if shared.

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Re: dunking monotubs [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #22138198 - 08/24/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Adding water to the sub after each flush makes a definitive improvement in the subsequent flushes.

I'm personally a fan of bottom watering bulk substrates. If you have a liner in your tubs, a cup or two of water deposited between the plastic and the substrate works great.

There is a little bit of required judgwment that goes along with this advice though. Its better to err on to little than too much. Moisture is good, to an extent. Too much invites the funk.


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Re: dunking monotubs [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #22138204 - 08/24/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Im assuming for about 8-12 hours the water is added? one tek said for only an hour to dunk for.

also, wha tmethod do you use to get rid of the water used?


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Re: dunking monotubs [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #22138207 - 08/24/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Dunking mons are optional. If your spawn was healthy and your grains were dunked prior to spawning, then the sub should have more than enough energy/moisture to support additional flushes with only a good misting after picking the first flush. :twocents:


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Re: dunking monotubs [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22138215 - 08/24/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I didn't dunk my grains and honestly don't plan on trying to for a while. I just feel like its asking for contamination. Maybe on my next round of tubs I will try it. how long do you dunk your grains for like 15-30 minutes?

SIDE NOTE:  Some of the caps have spots that almost look wet on them, not really though. they are darker and are circles. Im thinking slight bacterial contam.  Bout to harvest, wish me luck!


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Re: dunking monotubs [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #22138263 - 08/24/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I followed FrankHorrigan's tek so far. And many other TC's agree that dunking is the way to go.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17616982#17616982


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Re: dunking monotubs [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22138297 - 08/25/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You shouldn't need to dunk unless you can throw a full canopy on your first flush, even then you don't NEED to.

Concentrate more on getting optimum moisture to begin with and you can easily support 3 flushes with mild misting in-between.

You can always dunk but for me personally its more trouble than it's worth. Your results may vary


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Re: dunking monotubs [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22138301 - 08/25/15 12:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Get a feel for the weight of your tubs when you fruit them. If you get a monster first flush then is say go ahead and dunk them. But you'll be able to notice when they need a dunk by the weight loss of your sub. I just throw some bubble wrap on the sub and place a gallon jug of water on it. THen fill it up with water till its submerged and leave it about 4 hours.


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Re: dunking monotubs [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #22138449 - 08/25/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Im assuming for about 8-12 hours the water is added? one tek said for only an hour to dunk for.

also, wha tmethod do you use to get rid of the water used?




I don't remove the water.

With decent genetics you should have pins for your second flush inside of a week. Once those pins have formed the sub will suck that water up and put it to use with fruit body development immediately.

Fully colonized substrates are very contaminant resistant. And if you are at the point of doing tubs...your goal is most likely 2 flushes.  Beyond that...you should either cut your losses, or get better genetics.


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Re: dunking monotubs [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #22138487 - 08/25/15 01:58 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I always add water to the sub between flushes. I add enough water so that there is a water line half as thick of the substrate. I have added enough water that the substrate broke loose and floated. I don't want that. I was mac surface area of water touching the substrate. I let it soak for 24 hours or so and then tilt the tub sideways and let the water drain out vent holes.
I also pick spots on the casing that will receive more water during misting. I will mist as much as the substrate can absorb. I can easily go through a half spray bottle of water with a daily misting. If the substrate is soaking it up, I well give it to them.


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Re: dunking monotubs [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #22138532 - 08/25/15 02:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What? You let the water sit there? How isn't that asking for something bad?


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Re: dunking monotubs [Re: stareatclouds]
    #22138565 - 08/25/15 02:47 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You can allow water to sit at the bottom of a sub as long its only enough to usually stay for a day to two tops


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Re: dunking monotubs [Re: stareatclouds]
    #22138943 - 08/25/15 06:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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What? You let the water sit there? How isn't that asking for something bad?




The water doesn't just sit there. Its absorbed into the network and transported as needed. Unless you add more than the sub can handle it will all be absorbed. That's why he recommended only a cup or two.

I only dunk if the sub feels light.  Like another poster mentioned you only need to dunk if the sub is really light and expended a lot of water first flush. But my goal is to completely exhaust the sub in the first flush so second flushes and dunking are non issues. Pull 3200 grams wet first flush and toss.


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Re: dunking monotubs [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22140801 - 08/25/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Oh, I missed the cup part. I always completely fill mine for an hour and then dump. My bad.


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Re: dunking monotubs [Re: stareatclouds]
    #22141297 - 08/25/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Oh, I missed the cup part. I always completely fill mine for an hour and then dump. My bad.




There are many ways to do it. Some might be better than others but mainly they are all the same in the end.
I took a mono that flushed 3 times outside and filled it with three inches of water. I tilted it slightly sideways so that half wad out of the water and half was buried. It sucked up most of the water and gave me another decent flush.


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Re: dunking monotubs [Re: tahoe]
    #22141340 - 08/25/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

For sure, many ways to skin a cat. What was your logic for having half out of the water instead of leaving all of it flat on the bottom, spreading it equally?


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Re: dunking monotubs [Re: stareatclouds]
    #22141346 - 08/25/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I let mine float, myc networks are good at moving water where it is needed


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Re: dunking monotubs [Re: cronicr]
    #22141352 - 08/25/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I let mine float




But for how long :lmafo:


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Re: dunking monotubs [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22141368 - 08/25/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I fill mine to the bottom holes and weigh down my sub with gallon jugs. I've heard of others putting sticks through the holes to hold the sub block down as well.


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Re: dunking monotubs [Re: stareatclouds]
    #22141421 - 08/25/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I left it half out because it was covered in water and had not started to float. So I tilted it to the side a bit to raise it a bit.
I would think a floating mat of mycelium would be good in a way. But eventually the bottom side would become waterlogged die, then contam.

Like a floating mat of mycelium in a liquid culture. I have had those pin and fruit also


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