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Offlinelucid
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The impossibility of unattached observation
    #2213744 - 01/01/04 08:38 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Music always evokes strong memories in me.
The effect is immediate and often persists after
the music is over. If find it impossible to
detach hearing the music from the memories.
I often observe my reactions to the music, but
this doesn't lessen them in any extent.
What do fellow meditators think ?


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Re: The impossibility of unattached observation [Re: lucid]
    #2213746 - 01/01/04 08:42 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Using music to evoke a re-experience of the past is a hallmark of certain conceptualist personality types! I almost always choose music that will bring a sense of time to my memories.


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Re: The impossibility of unattached observation [Re: trendal]
    #2213789 - 01/01/04 09:38 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

um, I guess I wasn't clear in my post.
I'm wondering if there's a way to detach the
music from the associations/memories ?
I mean experience just the music for what it is...


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Re: The impossibility of unattached observation [Re: lucid]
    #2213968 - 01/01/04 11:39 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Associate a new memory with it? I've done it, but I'm not going to give an example.

But Trendal, I am like you. I always listen to new music. I listen to alternative, jazz, and sometimes rock. But sometimes I will put on "classic rock" and listen to what I grew up with in high school, or sometimes the alternative station in my town plays stuff from the 80's. It evokes memories of whatever I was doing at the time, always.


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Re: The impossibility of unattached observation [Re: lucid]
    #2213994 - 01/01/04 11:50 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

try listenning to only one instrment guitar, drums, piano whatever, tear it apart put it back together.


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Re: The impossibility of unattached observation [Re: lucid]
    #2214364 - 01/02/04 04:01 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

your mind does this "naturally."

Any profound memories will retain visual and sonic data so when the same sight or sound is unleashed upon you it can trigger these memories.

I think this is a hardware issue.. Its like that for me as well - If it bugs you, I'd say contact your Manufacturer :wink: hehe

peace man


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Re: The impossibility of unattached observation [Re: Strumpling]
    #2214925 - 01/02/04 12:42 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

My Manufacturer was a shadey fly-by-night operator :lol:


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