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    #22137314 - 08/24/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22137358 - 08/24/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:goodluck:
I'm not being a smart a$$... I'm just curious... Why did you put left over CVG for casing in the fridge?... I usually just leave it on a shelve in a sealed bucket or jar for later use.
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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: Darkhome]
    #22137374 - 08/24/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22137397 - 08/24/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

No worries...I hope you get a ton of fruits... I'm still somewhat new to bulk myself, but I've read... Alot...
If there is anything I can help you with... Feel free to ask.
Frank's teks are great...they started me in bulk.
I'm about to try whole oats next, but I've had alot of success with WBS.
I find users I like and read all their main posts...and if you need help, just ask ...this place and its users are AMAZING!:themoreyouknow:
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I'll send you 5 Shrooms ...you seem to be off on the right foot.:yoda:


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: Darkhome]
    #22137439 - 08/24/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I challenge you to get something to grow on CVG without putting grains in it.  Shit sits for months and won't mold over at room temp, usually in the same container I prepped it in.  Might be a good idea to get it to field capacity again and heat it up once more but for the most part things don't like to germinate on coir.  I just leave mine in the bag I prep it in, and keep it twist-tied.


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: Darkhome]
    #22137442 - 08/24/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22137455 - 08/24/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You're always at risk from things like that.  Anything that you're not 100% sure isn't a risk, is by default, a risk.  No way to tell you for sure other than use your best judgment, maybe post pics of the cakes in question if you're worried.  It's not a whole lot more dangerous than spawning grains that were inoculated with MS.

Agar is the solution to all those woes though, and it's pretty easy to get into.


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: Inocuole]
    #22137528 - 08/24/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

This is the tek that got me into Agar...

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: Darkhome]
    #22137529 - 08/24/15 08:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: Inocuole]
    #22137532 - 08/24/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22137565 - 08/24/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There is no "in general"  There could be one contaminant spore, or 5000, in the syringe.  I suppose it's possible there could be none, but I wouldn't count on it.

It's all totally random.  There's probably nothing wrong there but there's not really a way to know for sure.  MS can work a lot of the time but when it doesn't, you probably won't even see it coming.  That's why growing in 2D on agar is preferable.


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: Inocuole]
    #22137579 - 08/24/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22137585 - 08/24/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

There is risk of a contam showing up from the time you inoculate (Or before if you didn't sterilize correctly),all the way until the time you finally toss the thing because it's not producing mushrooms anymore.  You can't let your guard down really.


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: Inocuole]
    #22137610 - 08/24/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22137714 - 08/24/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I inoculated my first two bulk grows with a MS syringe (in a SAB), they worked out fine... But now that I found Agar I will never go back...who knows if I had dropped the spores on Agar, I might have had even better results. Agar gives you the piece of mind of "knowing" you have a clean culture instead of "hoping"...it also opens up a whole new realm of possibilities for your projects....
Check out these links about Agar...they will show you the "why" and the "how"

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21176491#21176491

Cloning...

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17784996/

And isolating...

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18430998/fpart/all/vc/1

I'm making pasty's plates as we speak...
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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: Darkhome]
    #22138985 - 08/25/15 06:43 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22139022 - 08/25/15 06:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Thanks for all this awesome info. You're the man!  Now to do a ton more reading haha



No problem... That's what we are here for ...to learn from each other
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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: Darkhome]
    #22142379 - 08/25/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22142504 - 08/25/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Do I just cut it and drop it in the grain jars in a still air box?




Yes.  Exactly like that.  If you can transfer from agar to agar, you have the skills necessary to transfer to grain.  I don't know of any teks specifically for that part since you can kind of extrapolate your agar skills and figure it out.  Loosen both lids, cut a wedge, lift the grain lid, drop the wedge in, replace it, all while not being too slow or too fast.


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22142534 - 08/25/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I challenge you to get something to grow on CVG without putting grains in it.  Shit sits for months and won't mold over at room temp, usually in the same container I prepped it in.  Might be a good idea to get it to field capacity again and heat it up once more but for the most part things don't like to germinate on coir.  I just leave mine in the bag I prep it in, and keep it twist-tied.




Even if it's hard for crap to germinate in CVG, can't it colonize it all the same, and THEN germinate when you spawn? Sure, colonized grains will help fight it off, but it still seems worse.

Seems like giving it the heat treatment or pasteurizing properly again might be a safe bet.

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Hey man another quick question here. I read through most of the links u provided about agar and also did a little searching. All of the articles I've found seem to stop at the point where u have a colonized agar plate. But once I have the ideal monoculture how do I get it in to my grain jars?  Do I just cut it and drop it in the grain jars in a still air box?  Any useful posts/teks you might be able to refer me to for this process?  Thanks in advance!




A monoculture is not really "ideal" for cubes, per se. If you somehow wound up with an insanely badass one, then sure, that's nice. But it takes a LOT of work to get there.

Like, it's work to get to an isolate/monoculture itself, and then you have to fruit it to see if it even performs. There's no guarantee the strain you're isolating is even a fruiter. If you have the time and inclination, you can isolate like 10+ strains, fruit them all, and see what happens.

Do a site search for anastomosis, isolating monocultures, MS Vs. isolates, etc. and you'll get some good information.

Here's PussyFart taking 10 isolates of PE (Penis Envy) and you can see how some perform and some don't. It's up to you if it's worth isolating or just usign MS.

Many very experienced growers just stay with MS since there's so many spores/strains, your odds of great flushes are always pretty decent.

Anyway, there's a few things to do once your spores or transfers have germinated and spread on the agar plates. Yes, you often just cut it out and drop it on sterilized grains. You can also drop it into sterilized water and blend it up to make a liquid inoculant. You can also use it to make a liquid culture as well. But cutting them out and dropping to grains is the most common.

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: stareatclouds]
    #22142561 - 08/25/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Even if it's hard for crap to germinate in CVG, can't it colonize it all the same, and THEN germinate when you spawn? Sure, colonized grains will help fight it off, but it still seems worse.

Seems like giving it the heat treatment or pasteurizing properly again might be a safe bet.






Giving it another heat treatment is indeed the best bet if you're re-using coir.  Like I said, it's germination that doesn't like to happen on coir.  If some mold mycelium landed on there by chance, you better believe it would eat it up in a few days flat.  We just assume nothing is actually going to germinate since it would have had to germinate on something else rather than the coir. :shrug:

Still, might as well do your pasteurize/sterilize again.


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: Inocuole]
    #22142580 - 08/25/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

True. I usually use all my coir at once, but now I have a bucket of hydrated coir hanging out in a bucket. I'll definitely pasteurize it later just to be sure.


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: stareatclouds]
    #22142760 - 08/25/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22142812 - 08/25/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's possible to accidentally isolate a clone further by taking out small wedges, if that answers your question.  It's also possible to get a big enough wedge that you're not really isolating much at all.  Putting MS to agar and then transferring once or twice before you put it to grain will usually give you a decent representation of the whole MS population, but there's no way to know for sure what you left behind.  Best to just get the growth that looks fast and use that.  So long as it's not too far from spore, all the growth should still be pretty heterozygous.


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: Inocuole]
    #22143168 - 08/25/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22143238 - 08/25/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Also, forgot to mention this, but clones don't always work as the standard definition would suggest.  A clone still has tons of sets of genetics, and they can produce different phenotypes in different conditions, or if you accidentally isolate away from the one strain in your clone culture that was actually producing the fruits you cloned for.  I haven't had the latter happen though.  I've taken some clones and grew them out and got nothing even remotely similar to the specimen I took from.  :shrug:


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: Inocuole]
    #22143607 - 08/25/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

MS (multi spore) will have tons of strains present. A clone (piece of tissue from mushroom body onto agar) will have far less strains present than MS due to anastomosis, but won't be a monoculture right off the bat. However, you can make transfers of the cloned tissue from the agar until you have monocultures (which is a LOT easier than starting from MS).

I think you are confusing terminology some. A clone is a piece of mushroom tissue, a transfer is simply taking a piece of mycelium in your agar and putting it to a new plate, an isolate/monoculture is a SINGLE strain from wherever on agar.

Due to anastomosis, you'll have less strains present from a clone, but you can still transfer til you hit a monoculture and wind up with a shitty culture (even though it came from a fruiter). Most people just keep the present strains around from a clone since that clone is pretty good already and then drop it into grains.

For now, jus worry about working with agar with sterile technique. Definitely keep researching, but isolating to monocultures can wait a bit in my opinion.

Drop spores to agar, make 2-3 transfers to ensure cleanliness, let that last transfer grow to the size of a silver dollar, and drop wedges into sterilized media. :smile:


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: stareatclouds]
    #22144592 - 08/26/15 06:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22144605 - 08/26/15 06:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just don't worry about it, transfer as many times as you think is necessary to get the amount of clean culture you want to work with, with some to store in the fridge.  It's not like you're constantly in danger of ruining your good culture by transferring away from it, it's just a possibility.


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: Inocuole]
    #22146101 - 08/26/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22146131 - 08/26/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Don't crack it open. Vector for contams. Wait until you're going to transfer or inoculate whatever lol.

You can read my improve your sterile techniques link in my signature to see my techniques :shrug: but as far as isolating is concerned, listen to inoc and stare


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: Mad Season]
    #22146307 - 08/26/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Mad,

He's talking about his mini-monotub, not his agar plates,I believe.

I've always opened mine quickly to snap pictures or give the sub a smell. I thought that was common?


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: stareatclouds]
    #22146330 - 08/26/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Oh sorry I thought it was agar :lol: misread a little, my bad! yeah a mini mono is fine!


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: Mad Season]
    #22146542 - 08/26/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22146962 - 08/26/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It depends on the substrate you use for what to look for. I never really smell fresh mushrooms early on. Coir and vermiculite and gypsum don't smell like mushrooms. It just definitely shouldn't smell sweet or sour.


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    #22148295 - 08/26/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22148358 - 08/26/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22148477 - 08/26/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22148484 - 08/26/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Like.... 3-4 days?


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    #22148644 - 08/26/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22148865 - 08/26/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Looks great. Yeah, a few more days and it should be 100%. :kenthumbup:


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: stareatclouds]
    #22158142 - 08/28/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22158147 - 08/28/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You're even further away than before!  How'd that happen?

Just kidding, you can tell that it's about to be done in a day or two, it just has to colonize that last bit.


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    #22158175 - 08/28/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22158180 - 08/28/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Well if you wait for pins before casing it might already be too late, and if you leave it for 4 days it might pin.  I honestly.. am not sure.    I'm not an advocate of setting up grows in timeframes where you won't be around...

I guess just let it chill, if it wants to fruit, it'll do it with or without you though.


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    #22158190 - 08/28/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22158214 - 08/28/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I've never worked anywhere that asked me to go anywhere like that, I guess I'm not that important.  :sad:

As far as other thoughts, barring the non-helpful random type that float through, I think you're going to have time to put a casing layer on before you leave, so you're gonna want to case it at 100%, and if you haven't already, go ahead and put it under the light cycle, assuming you have a timer for this.  Worst case scenario, you come back to a fully colonized casing layer, (which isn't the end of the world) and a huge pinset.  I'm not totally sure whether I recommend leaving it how it is, or putting it in some kind of half-fruiting phase, which, combined with the casing layer, might be a better bet.

Second opinion from anybody else on maybe only opening up two of the holes the day he leaves, and stuffing them pretty tight with the poly, so he's at least got a LITTLE FAE going on?  That's what I would do I think.  Would be nice if the pins you came home to were healthy.


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: Inocuole]
    #22160313 - 08/29/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22161770 - 08/29/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Why do you have quarter inch holes on what's supposed to be a mono?  I dunno how to dial those in, other than tape only some of them.

I would leave the bottom holes closed, if anything, since that would dry out the casing layer.


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    #22164720 - 08/30/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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    #22164748 - 08/30/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22165199 - 08/30/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Huh, so you're right.. I never actually checked out his mini design.  I've always done mine a little differently.


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    #22165282 - 08/30/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22185270 - 09/03/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You should be fine, but that sucks. Water underneath the liner shouldn't be a problem, though. For future reference, if you need to get water out of your tub (common after dunking a tub in between flushes to rehydrate the sub), you should put a piece of cardboard on top of the sub, hold it down with your hand, and THEN tilt/dump water out.


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: stareatclouds]
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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22185345 - 09/03/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It should be fine, brother. At the worst, it could form some side pins due to air hitting it, but that's not the end of the world. I'd just not move it around anymore. As far as it delaying, it's whatever, the sub will do what it wants and you can't do much beyond let it sit in fruiting conditions. Just let the myc do it's thing. :smile:

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: stareatclouds]
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Since you cracked it, did you get a good look at how much of the casing layer was colonized?    Either way you just want to keep fruiting conditions going, mist it if it looks too dry, adjust your poly if it's drying up too fast, etc.

Open up all the holes if you didn't already though.


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: RenegadeBlue]
    #22185481 - 09/03/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Another side note; I was under the impression that after casing you are supposed to let it colonize the casing layer 30%, patch it, THEN introduce to fruiting conditions.

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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: newrook]
    #22185549 - 09/03/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The functions of a casing layer are both to provide a microclimate, which helps keep the substrate from drying out and maintains a perfect pinning environment on the surface, and also to supply a low-nutrient surface from which to pin.  It still serves the former of those functions when you case and fruit immediately thereafter.  Both attributes are said to affect the overall pinset but if one of them affects it more it's the micro climates in the tiny air pockets of the casing layer, and that's still happening here.

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Open up all the holes? What?


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    #22185938 - 09/03/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Oh wait nevermind he put it into fruiting completely the other day, that's right.  I thought he was still going to do the half the holes covered thing, my bad.


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: newrook]
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Another side note; I was under the impression that after casing you are supposed to let it colonize the casing layer 30%, patch it, THEN introduce to fruiting conditions.

I think you're going to see some stuff popping up soon.




I used to think the same thing, but what I learned (both from the awesome people on here & my own experience) is that if you are using CVG to case, you should fruit immediately. If it's jiffy mix or something similar... Then you wait til 30%...but it really all depends on your culture you are working with... I'm working with a VERY aggressive B+ right now that does better if you fruit it for a couple days, then case with CVG.:themoreyouknow:


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Is it kinda gray and very thin and whispy? Can you get a better picture up?


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Re: Blue's First Mono: A Grow Log [Re: Splinta]
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It's healthy :thumbup: casings regularly look like that. Actually I love to fruit right at this point. When myc just begins to poke out.


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