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how well can shrooms help with depression?
#22137003 - 08/24/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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im growing some GT,s and read that shrooms are a grate way to help deal with depression. Anyone have any feed back om this?
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Re: how well can shrooms help with depression? [Re: Mackson]
#22137061 - 08/24/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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They will get you in touch with your authentic self, not your egoistic self. And your inner fears and worries will be exposed, allowing you to see the error of your ways. It is a very humbling experience to say the least. I always come out of my trips wanting to improve myself and I appreciate everything around me even more. So yes, shrooms can eliminate depression by allowing you to see everything from a higher perspective.
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Re: how well can shrooms help with depression? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22137127 - 08/24/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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They have helped me a ton with my depression. I wouldn't even say I'm depressed anymore, and it used to be my biggest problem.
But don't think its a cure-all or that it will necessarily all be easy. You're still doing the mental work. (at least that's how it is for me. We all react to the experience uniquely)
Lately I've been microdosing, taking like .2-.5 grams. I find this is quite effective for treating neurosis, and it allows you to do so without getting into deep psychedelic waters. Don't underestimate the mental effect small doses can have, even if you don't feel like you're tripping at all, they can really get you on the right track. Highly recommend small doses.
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Re: how well can shrooms help with depression? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22137590 - 08/24/15 09:02 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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the small dose thing sounds like a plan. when i was in highschool (12years ago) i did it for the trips and remember feeling very GOOD after for a good amoount of months, buti was going into it already happy. well they just started pinning so well see. also my gf is having a bad bout with her own so i hope we can both use this to help out.....eh and who doesnt like to camp.
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Re: how well can shrooms help with depression? [Re: Mackson] 1
#22137606 - 08/24/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have heard of some small studies done somewhere about mushies helping with that. Hardly conclusive though. Educate yourself a bit more before you take the plunge.
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Re: how well can shrooms help with depression? [Re: Le_Canard]
#22137844 - 08/24/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks,I'm reading more and more about it,seems better then getting medicated daily with pills with a ton of odd side effects.
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Re: how well can shrooms help with depression? [Re: Mackson] 1
#22137939 - 08/24/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, I had severe depression but I'm successfully beating it with Zoloft. So, you know the meds sometimes DO work. It's just that they're over-prescribed and inappropriately in many cases.
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Re: how well can shrooms help with depression? [Re: Le_Canard]
#22170298 - 08/31/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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well im glad thats helping you, i hope i dont haft to take meds for it but i hear bad stories about em all the time so im trying to steer clear.
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Re: how well can shrooms help with depression? [Re: Mackson]
#22184021 - 09/03/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i do not see how microdosing helps you if you cant even feel the trip can you elaborate?
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Re: how well can shrooms help with depression? [Re: Kenneth]
#22184063 - 09/03/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You can still feel it mildly.
But even if you can't feel it overtly, it still subtly alters the way you think. At least for me.
Subtle differences in thought yield big results.
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Re: how well can shrooms help with depression? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22184082 - 09/03/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It seems like its worth a shot
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Re: how well can shrooms help with depression? [Re: Kenneth]
#22234425 - 09/13/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shrooms can definitely help you to become more in touch with your thinking processes that are involved in your depressive thinking patterns. It can help you a lot. I grew shrooms a few years back and took a spiritual journey in the summer. I learned a lot about myself, my thinking patterns, and the world around me. I had a breaking point in my depression and needed answers. I got the answers within the mushroom.
All I have to say is to make sure you are not in the middle of a depressive episode. Remember, set and setting. If you are in a depressive episode, wait a few weeks until whatever in your life has come to a calmer state.
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Re: how well can shrooms help with depression? [Re: Mackson]
#22237971 - 09/14/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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For me, no. Maybe in the very short term, but there's sort of a synergy with depression in a weird way that will lead to a bout of alienated mania when I take mushrooms. Especially if you're doing it on your own, it might provide a temporary sense of change that would be desirable to someone seeking to escape depression, but it also can be a transference of stress onto a potentially more volatile mental state.
Sorry that probably doesn't make much sense, but I really think the right way to treat depression is to develop routines that are healthy and engaging to you. Mushrooms might even be part of that, but they cannot be the foundation of a happy life. There needs to be much more.
You need to have a healthy diet. You need to exercise regularly. You need to have goals and things you want to accomplish, either a job or some sort of passion. You need downtime and to be able to relax.
If you're doing all this, and still feeling depressed, then maybe you need to do something to change things up. Add some spice into life. Then you might want to take some psychedelic mushrooms to see if that changes things for you. Do research to find out what is right for you in terms of dose and setting and all that, and go for it.
If you're laying around all day in bed, considering suicide, drinking alot or taking addictive drugs to cope already, then no, mushrooms are not going to help. I know it sucks for people to hear "do XYZ and then you won't be depressed", I know I still hate hearing that myself, but what I'm saying is the truth. It's very hard, so we take baby-steps to incorporate healthy things into life every day, and then one day the tide suddenly turns and you find you want to get out there and you're not depressed.
At that point it gets easier. It's never easy, but life becomes bearable. There's just no other way to go about it and while I don't think a moderate amount of mushrooms is harmful, putting all your faith in them to change you for the better can be. The only thing that can improve you is you.
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Re: how well can shrooms help with depression? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#22238071 - 09/14/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: For me, no. Maybe in the very short term, but there's sort of a synergy with depression in a weird way that will lead to a bout of alienated mania when I take mushrooms. Especially if you're doing it on your own, it might provide a temporary sense of change that would be desirable to someone seeking to escape depression, but it also can be a transference of stress onto a potentially more volatile mental state.
Sorry that probably doesn't make much sense, but I really think the right way to treat depression is to develop routines that are healthy and engaging to you. Mushrooms might even be part of that, but they cannot be the foundation of a happy life. There needs to be much more.
You need to have a healthy diet. You need to exercise regularly. You need to have goals and things you want to accomplish, either a job or some sort of passion. You need downtime and to be able to relax.
If you're doing all this, and still feeling depressed, then maybe you need to do something to change things up. Add some spice into life. Then you might want to take some psychedelic mushrooms to see if that changes things for you. Do research to find out what is right for you in terms of dose and setting and all that, and go for it.
If you're laying around all day in bed, considering suicide, drinking alot or taking addictive drugs to cope already, then no, mushrooms are not going to help. I know it sucks for people to hear "do XYZ and then you won't be depressed", I know I still hate hearing that myself, but what I'm saying is the truth. It's very hard, so we take baby-steps to incorporate healthy things into life every day, and then one day the tide suddenly turns and you find you want to get out there and you're not depressed.
At that point it gets easier. It's never easy, but life becomes bearable. There's just no other way to go about it and while I don't think a moderate amount of mushrooms is harmful, putting all your faith in them to change you for the better can be. The only thing that can improve you is you.
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IME the mushrooms lead you to the positive habits that will actually help you. Like he said, the mushrooms alone will not cut it in the end.
Like aldous huxley said "Nothing short of everything will really do."
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Re: how well can shrooms help with depression? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#22247656 - 09/16/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Repeated doses of mushrooms may help if the depression is neurological (see Google for mushrooms improving brain regeneration). If it's circumstantial, maybe it'll make you realise some things here and there. You risk having a long, cold, strange trip though.
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Re: how well can shrooms help with depression? [Re: Mackson] 1
#22249348 - 09/17/15 02:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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With sample sizes on psilocybin studies so small, nothing is certain. There could be testing bias with such little funding 
That said, HERE you're mostly going to hear success stories... Think of the bias here? What types of people join this website... People that LIKE shrooms.
It's a fucking crapshoot, man. Some get PTSD and HPPD, some, their depression gets worse (and they usually stop), some see benefits (but they're almost always short term) and some have a life changing experience from one trip. There are more researched pathways out there. But do what you want.
If you are using ANY drug to combat depression, there's really no reason you shouldn't be getting some sort of therapy in conjunction with your meds (or shrooms). You should have a professional establish a baseline with you, THEN start experimenting while they check in on you every week or so. Ideally, you would be getting actual treatment with the drugs, like CBT, psychotherapy, ABT, etc. etc.
For example, CBT and anti-depressants are shown to have MUCH more success than anti-depressants alone. More people (in the many, replicated studies out there) show improvements and the improvements are actually long term (they last beyond the drug use).
Drugs don't solve depression. Understanding it and combating it daily solves depression. You fight until you learn to normalize the fight and it isn't a struggle anymore. Drugs may CATALYZE that fight, or give you a temporary edge...
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