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36fuckin5
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When to cut T. Pachanoi?
#22136700 - 08/24/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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So I've been searching and searching, trying to figure this out, but I was wondering when in the year I should cut my cactus. It's getting kinda wobbly on one pup, and another is just looking beautiful itself and needs its' own pot to be pretty in.
I just decided to bring it inside today. I'm gonna go ahead and stop watering for the Winter, but it's just been outside in the elements for a few months now. The soil is reasonably wet and it's good and plump and obviously has plenty of water inside.
Can I go ahead and cut it and dry it and try to get some cuttings rooted or should I wait until it's a little drier to help prevent against rot? Does it even matter? I can wait longer for a callous if that's an issue as long as I don't have to worry about rot.
I really don't know shit about plants at all, I'm just reading here and there and making it look nice and healthy the best I can. It's been a few years now and except for one etiolated spot it seems to be loving life. I can't find this little piece of info anywhere though.
Thanks in advance for any answers.
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Re: When to cut T. Pachanoi? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22136710 - 08/24/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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when the winter is over, and you begin watering again for Spring, look for new growth, and that is the best time to cut a pup.
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Re: When to cut T. Pachanoi? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22136723 - 08/24/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pic of the cactus in question:

I wanna chop that big pup into 3 pieces, plant the top, use the bottom for another pupping machine and discard the etiolated section, then plant the smaller pup as-is. I'll probably go ahead and slice the base at an angle just to prevent future possibility of rot, since I leave it outside and my environment is closer to a rainforest than a desert, lol.
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Re: When to cut T. Pachanoi? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22136757 - 08/24/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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don't discard the etiolated section root it as well. New growth will be better.
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kosmokratorshaman said: don't discard the etiolated section root it as well. New growth will be better.
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Re: When to cut T. Pachanoi? [Re: cowsRmeat]
#22143454 - 08/25/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The etiolated section is pretty damn thin. If I plant it, would it maybe be better to lay it sideways for stability? I can't see it holding more than a 2-3 inch pup without being very wobbly, and I've heard not to cut a cutting less than 6".
I'm really after some nice top cuts. I'm not worried about actually having a shitload of cactus, I just want pretty ones, lol. I figure once I have too many to deal with I'll cut them up and extract some, but until that point I just want healthy plants.
Also, did you mean the new growth from the etiolated section will be better than the etiolated section, or it'll be better than the rest of the cactus?
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Re: When to cut T. Pachanoi? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22143609 - 08/25/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dude your cactus will be fine. cut in 6in sections and plant each however you want.
The etiolated section will be fine planted straight up or log style. Once it roots you won't have to worry about it's stability anyway.
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Re: When to cut T. Pachanoi? [Re: spaceman101]
#22143624 - 08/25/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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OK well then am I likely to get more pups laying the etiolated section on its' side or straight up? I'd imagine it'd have more potential on its' side, but again, I don't really know plants. They don't make sense to me. I've been growing fungi too long.
I know that it'll basically be fine no matter what, but I'm looking for ideal.
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Re: When to cut T. Pachanoi? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22143763 - 08/25/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Honestly from what I've seen you most likely won't end up with any more pups from planting log style but it's worth a shot.
If you plan to plant upright just attempt to cut directly above the areoles in a straight line as evenly as possible and it might help you to achieve a higher pup rate.
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Re: When to cut T. Pachanoi? [Re: spaceman101]
#22144172 - 08/26/15 01:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anytime the cactus is in active growth is a good time to cut. You generally want to avoid cutting if the cactus is dormant bc it will be more prone to disease. But if it has been outside, then you can cut it now. Just keep your tools clean, use a sharp knife so you dont have to bruise it too much, and then keep the ends very dry with plenty of airflow. You can use sulphur if you want an added layer to protect against infection.
d cut that whole arm off. You'll prob get better growth on the other if the plant only has one tip to support. Meanwhile you can get two more plants rooting form the big arm if you cut em in half. cut in the middle and plant the two thin ends below ground. You should get two pups that will grow out normal. If you're prepping for winter, you can let them root all winter. Just dont keep them too cool that they stay dormant. Hopefully they both root and dont pup over the winter.
There's always so many options. It's nothing you have to stress over doing wrong. But you can def put some thought into what works best for you.
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World Seed Supply said: I'd cut that whole arm off. You'll prob get better growth on the other if the plant only has one tip to support.
The plan is to cut the whole big arm. I was gonna do 3 sections - the tip to just grow out, the bottom stocky part vertically for a sturdy pupping machine and the etiolated part horizontally for another pupping machine.
Then I'm gonna cut the other small pup and plant it for another pretty tip to grow out.
The big stalk that it's all growing from, I was gonna cut again at an angle to prevent rot. When I cut it level it was indoors, it's gonna be outdoors again next Spring so drainage from the cut is more of a concern.
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There's always so many options. It's nothing you have to stress over doing wrong. But you can def put some thought into what works best for you. 
I know this much. I'm not stressing. Like I said, I'm used to fungi where I can't fix things, and a day is all the difference in the world. I've had this for about 3 years now (along with 4 more seedlings that I lost moving) and it seems to be pretty happy and growing fairly well now.
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Re: When to cut T. Pachanoi? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22144210 - 08/26/15 01:20 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also, can anybody give a guess as to which cutting I have? It didn't come with a strain name. I'm hoping it's not PC, but if it is, oh well. It's still pretty.
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Re: When to cut T. Pachanoi? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22147780 - 08/26/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would guess PC. Nothing wrong with that though
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Re: When to cut T. Pachanoi? [Re: cowsRmeat]
#22149450 - 08/26/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well I'd like higher alkaloid content. From what I've seen, lots of people are disappointed with PC Pachanoi. Like I said, I do eventually plan to extract. I wanna get more higher potency cacti though. I had a few Bridgesii but they're gone now.
It is a pretty one though, and that's the main point for now.
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Re: When to cut T. Pachanoi? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22149475 - 08/26/15 11:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The pic isn't quite clear enough for me to say for sure that it's a PC clone but if it is just add about another 5 to 6 inches to the amount you're planning to extract from and you should be able to get what you need. Probably about a foot and a half.
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Re: When to cut T. Pachanoi? [Re: spaceman101]
#22149617 - 08/27/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, like I said, I only plan to extract once I have so much I can't deal with it anymore. Probably another 5-7 years minimum.
I've cut up just a few feet of cacti at a time before and it's a bitch. Worth it, cause how else do you get real mescaline, but a bitch nonetheless. When I have to cut up 20 feet, I'd like to get all I can out of it.
I'm a stubborn bastard, the point where I can't deal with it anymore will mean hours and hours of moving small cacti or just a few minutes of the majority of the breaking off cause I moved them.
But again, it's mostly for a pretty plant. Also for me to learn plants with something forgiving. So PC is alright.
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Re: When to cut T. Pachanoi? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22149635 - 08/27/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea dude PC is still active just not as potent as other non PC clones.
If you were about to drink the cactus to ingest the mescaline then I would say get another clone but if you plan to extract then just add about another 5 to 6 inches and you should be good to go
BTW you taking a break from mushies atm too? I decided to spend this season an all my plants and updating my garden instead of mushies. When winter hits though Fungi FTW
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Re: When to cut T. Pachanoi? [Re: spaceman101]
#22149650 - 08/27/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I haven't grown any mushrooms for over a year now. Life got in the way. I'm about to start back up on some edibles and novelties here in probably 2 months or so though. Won't be able to do actives for some undertermined amount of time until my living situation changes.
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Re: When to cut T. Pachanoi? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#22149680 - 08/27/15 01:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I got ya buddy I wish you the best of luck though on both your grows
I love growing cacti because they are pretty forgiving and they last longer than a week like mushies so for décor they're a lot better
Keep us all updated on the progress you make with this pedro along with any others you pick up.
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