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    #22135917 - 08/24/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hi fellow shroomers,
I just got out of hospital after over dosing on opiates.

I was taking kratom, etizolam and snorting fent analogues from china.

I remember taking a large dose of all 3 and puking then blacking out.

I went to hell.  The experience was beyond any drug or any experience ive ever had in my life.  Truely a NDE although I was never actually dead but I left my body, I experienced astral travel.  I was bouncing forwards and backwards in time.  Viewing other dimensions, other timelines.

I went to hell and heaven.  Those words are not meant in the christian form.  What I saw was that I'm born with several attributes, I'm a travellor, keeper of knowledge, burden and the sign of the moon.  I died several times over and over, the pain was undbearable, I was being burnt alive, poisened, killed by a secret order...

I saw hell, theres many spirits there all extremely negative but they have a choice to reincarnate and elevate their spirits if they choose.  I was told I would be shown the the truth.  We re all one being, seperation and time are illusions, this life is only a school and everything has a purpose we are not aware of here...

Doing good deeds elevates the spiritual self.  If you make it to heaven you can do anything you want, i saw creations other spiritual beings had made and the joy there is immense, the music was beautiful, we are the music.

I was told no one would believe me if I spoke the word.  Tell what I saw on the other side.  Odd thing is I can't disregard it for several reasons, one is tha the things I was shown contradicted my previous beliefs about life.  The other is that I saw my own future and that of many others and all the predictions came true.  Its been scaring me shitless because I know what people are going to do and say before they do it.  My psychic abilities have been blown open.

I was also told I could heal people with my hands, my father gave me the gift.

I realise ths sounds like a heap of shit to most people, I just had to speak my truth.  I only know what I've experienced.  God spoke to me and told me we are all one being but we are not alone.  I know we are all one as I saw and lived so many lives.  We actually exist as many lives at the same time parralel universes of all possible choices.

In one of them I died when I overdosed, I had to see it all, my corpse was shovelled into a bin, I haunted the hospital staff and they confirmed a cold presence everytime i did but they blamed natural causes.  I told them all their names, what they were doing as I saw it from outside my body.

If I went into people I saw their lifelines and the insane truth that I am them, I am you, you are me, we all one but we're not alone.

Fucked up shit make of it what you will.  I could write a book I saw so much on the other side.

Please play carefully, don't think your life has no meaning as you are truely valueable and every little action effects our counsciousness, we feel what is right, we're here to learn and elevate the human spirit, to ascend.  Peace and joy to all.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: nice1returns]
    #22135963 - 08/24/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

It's crazy that you experienced all that after overdosing, but what you were "shown" is something common.
It's just a form of Spiritualism believed by many.

I know members here that subscribe to the same theory, so does my dad and girlfriend. Maybe it's something you believed all along but didn't know how to explain it until this experience. :shrug:

Also, I really don't think the Kratom contributed to your OD since it doesn't cause respiratory depression.
Etiz and dangerous Fentanyl Analogs certainly do, though. Not surprised at all when people OD off of any benzo/opiate combo since it's one of the most common OD cases in the US>


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Re: Overdosed [Re: kr0nik0]
    #22135979 - 08/24/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I need to go OD so I can achieve spiritual enlightenment. I've experienced what you describe on other drugs, without ever OD'ing or blacking out - so that's good I guess. I experienced everything pretty similarly years ago on DXM/MDMA - psychic time travel, etc. Still confuses me to this day. Glad you're ok. How many OD tales does it take before people stop using RC's?


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Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

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Re: Overdosed [Re: nice1returns]
    #22135994 - 08/24/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:mxe:

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Re: Overdosed [Re: Sun King]
    #22136005 - 08/24/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:feelsgoatman:


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Re: Overdosed [Re: kr0nik0]
    #22136006 - 08/24/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I should of known it was dangerous i think i was meant to have this experience,

when i came round i was on a respirator, tubes down my throat, up my nose and in my arms, it was awful, i shit myself, i had drool coming down my face but cudnt move as this breathing tube was down my throat, even had a tube in my dick, it hurt like fuck when they ripped it out.

The oddest thing is all my life once a year i get this roaring in my ears, the day before the over dose i had the roaring all day and in hel; i became a part of a water fall and the roaring was the sound of the water fall.  I hope its done with now and I never get it again.

The doctors said it was a rare form of tinnitus.  Its actually a sound from one of my lifelines where i reincarnated in a shower and went down the drain, thats just one lifeline of thousands I lived.

I had opposite views to most things was shown, ive completely changed, Im a different person now.  I dont do drugs anymore.  Im an idiot for doing so much fent and eti together, i could of lost my arm, i was blacked out fr several days on bathroom floor.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: nice1returns]
    #22136014 - 08/24/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I wouldn't do drugs anymore either.

What's the Alan Watts quote? Once you get the message, hang up the phone? Yeah.


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Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

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Re: Overdosed [Re: pfxtc]
    #22136036 - 08/24/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:yesnod:

I actually enjoyed the hospital a lot and my family bought me all this new shit hehe it was like an awesum holiday but i came round a non smoker and non drinker/druggy

apart from this methadone the docs fed me, a huge syringe of methadone twice daily lol but i quit it immediatly against there advice after one week :p


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Re: Overdosed [Re: nice1returns]
    #22136044 - 08/24/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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:yesnod:

I actually enjoyed the hospital a lot and my family bought me all this new shit hehe it was like an awesum holiday but i came round a non smoker and non drinker/druggy

apart from this methadone the docs fed me, a huge syringe of methadone twice daily lol but i quit it immediatly against there advice after one week :p




Well you've been a non-druggy for what, a few days? maybe a week? Be careful, relapse is always possible. Toss those RC's in the trash. I've had a few surgeries, some pretty major, and always liked being in the hospital too :lol:, but waking up after an OD sounds pretty terrible. I've never had to deal with that, I've always went to sleep sober.


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Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

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Re: Overdosed [Re: pfxtc]
    #22136109 - 08/24/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I was also told I could heal people with my hands, my father gave me the gift.

I realise ths sounds like a heap of shit to most people,




:thatsayes:

Nice work on getting clean, but putting yourself up on a pedestal is setting yourself up for a hard fall.  Have maybe a realistic plan where you can be happy and get by to fall back on in case this whole messiah thing doesn't pan out.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22136154 - 08/24/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:picard:  Is there a megapicard?


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Re: Overdosed [Re: nice1returns]
    #22136168 - 08/24/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The oddest thing is all my life once a year i get this roaring in my ears, the day before the over dose i had the roaring all day and in hel; i became a part of a water fall and the roaring was the sound of the water fall.  I hope its done with now and I never get it again.




That's interesting.  Lots of people associate a roaring or rushing sound with the beginning of a sleep paralysis episode or as an indication a lucid dream is about to happen.  It's a really common hypnagogic hallucination.  If I "hear" it I know I'm in for sleep paralysis with a high chance of a lucid dream to follow.  Your NDE experience reminds of that kind of stuff.

The roaring tinnits thing is something I experienced wide awake at least once as a very young kid.  Pretty sure I had a lucid dream hours later when I went to bed.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: MorphinTime]
    #22136244 - 08/24/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

what was hell like?


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Re: Overdosed [Re: nice1returns]
    #22136286 - 08/24/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Real sorry that happened to you. Those fentanyl analogues are bad news I'm afraid.
Super happy you survived :hug:


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Re: Overdosed [Re: nice1returns]
    #22136305 - 08/24/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Man it sucks to hear you pushed yourself that far, but I am glad to hear you're ok and that you've grown from it :smile:.

Those beliefs are not far off my own, particularly the time thing. I believe all lives are the same thing, we are not separate, but each ego is a prick on the surface of the same whole.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: Cepheus]
    #22136335 - 08/24/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What you saw was a chemical clusterfuck because you where dying. eg hallucinations things that ARNT REAL.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: kakashi68]
    #22136855 - 08/24/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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What you saw was a chemical clusterfuck because you where dying. eg hallucinations things that ARNT REAL.




Apparently, neither is grammar.
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Re: Overdosed [Re: kakashi68] * 1
    #22136943 - 08/24/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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What you saw was a chemical clusterfuck because you where dying. eg hallucinations things that ARNT REAL.




How the hell can you know that.  Please tell me how you know what happened to him.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22136989 - 08/24/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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:picard:  Is there a megapicard?



:doublefacepalm: why yes there is


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Re: Overdosed [Re: Salomon]
    #22137029 - 08/24/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

This has been the best thread I've read all day.

OP, were you very spiritual before this evebt and/or were you raised in a religious household? Just curious...


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Re: Overdosed [Re: nice1returns]
    #22137052 - 08/24/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm glad to hear that you're okay and that you gained something positive from such a horrible experience. Sometimes you have to go through 'hell' to get to 'heaven.' I've been there plenty of times.



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Re: Overdosed [Re: Detached]
    #22137084 - 08/24/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't get why he didn't lay hands on all the sick people at the hospital?  Seems like the perfect place to do some old fashioned faith healing.

That would be a good way to prove it, get a reputable doctor to witness and verify you healing someone, but of course God wouldn't allow such a thing to happen :snub: God only heals the gullible because he only wants to prove he is real to those who will believe in him anyway no matter how lacking the evidence is :sadyes:


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Re: Overdosed [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22137089 - 08/24/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

god is a monopolist and quite jealous.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22137133 - 08/24/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

God is a vengeful son of a bitch with no table manners.

Would not chill with again.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22137235 - 08/24/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

kakashi68 said:
What you saw was a chemical clusterfuck because you where dying. eg hallucinations things that ARNT REAL.




How the hell can you know that.  Please tell me how you know what happened to him.




Because science has proved that people who have NDE are just hallucinating. There no religion or "higher purpose or whatever bullshit. Its just just you brain dying, hypoxia, dopamine and preconceived ideas.

Or do you believe he really went to heaven and hell while he was still alive? Pretty much everyone who have actually fully died and been revived say the same thing. Theres nothing. Blackness. dead.

I believe science over a dying man.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: kakashi68]
    #22137867 - 08/24/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What a sad and pathetic life you must lead.

I'm not religious, by any stretch, but at least I don't constantly one-up other people by showing how much of a fucking cunt I am, Kaka.

I feel sad for you. Seriously, breaks my heart.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
    #22137929 - 08/24/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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What a sad and pathetic life you must lead.

I'm not religious, by any stretch, but at least I don't constantly one-up other people by showing how much of a fucking cunt I am, Kaka.

I feel sad for you. Seriously, breaks my heart.




your right there. I am a sad pathetic failure of a human being. Your not the first to say that :smile:


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Re: Overdosed [Re: kakashi68] * 2
    #22137936 - 08/24/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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What a sad and pathetic life you must lead.

I'm not religious, by any stretch, but at least I don't constantly one-up other people by showing how much of a fucking cunt I am, Kaka.

I feel sad for you. Seriously, breaks my heart.




your right there. I am a sad pathetic failure of a human being. Your not the first to say that :smile:



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Re: Overdosed [Re: nice1returns]
    #22137957 - 08/24/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like a pretty intense experience man! Reminds me of trip reports of Iboga. Glad to hear you are OK.


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    #22137966 - 08/24/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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your right there. I am a sad pathetic failure of a human being. Your not the first to say that :smile:




Then, fucking change! Stop being a POS to everyone.

Come back here and make me say, "You're fucking awesome, Kakashi68! I wish I could live your life, man!"


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Re: Overdosed [Re: nice1returns]
    #22137973 - 08/24/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hi fellow shroomers,
I just got out of hospital after over dosing on opiates.

I was taking kratom, etizolam and snorting fent analogues from china.

I remember taking a large dose of all 3 and puking then blacking out.






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Re: Overdosed [Re: kakashi68]
    #22138031 - 08/24/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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kakashi68 said:
What you saw was a chemical clusterfuck because you where dying. eg hallucinations things that ARNT REAL.




How the hell can you know that.  Please tell me how you know what happened to him.




Because science has proved that people who have NDE are just hallucinating. There no religion or "higher purpose or whatever bullshit. Its just just you brain dying, hypoxia, dopamine and preconceived ideas.

Or do you believe he really went to heaven and hell while he was still alive? Pretty much everyone who have actually fully died and been revived say the same thing. Theres nothing. Blackness. dead.

I believe science over a dying man.




Science has proved nothing.  There's plenty of people who died who have seen some type of vision.  You cannot prove 100 percent there is nothing after death
You can not do it.  You can believe it, you can say stuff like religious people are stupid.  But you do not know.  And if you say you know 100 percent what happens after you die or if there is not some other plane of existence you are a fool

Here's an idea.  You believe whatever you want.  And if someone believes in something else just keep your mouth shut.  Because I'm gonna say it again, you don't know.  Stop saying the shit your saying as fact. It is not fact.  Oh science has told you nothing exists after death.  No it hasnt.  Theres nothing out there with any certainty thats says that.  Also read up on the history of science. Concrete theories have been shattered over and over throughout history.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: DTCharlieB] * 1
    #22138095 - 08/24/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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kakashi68 said:
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DTCharlieB said:
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kakashi68 said:
What you saw was a chemical clusterfuck because you where dying. eg hallucinations things that ARNT REAL.




How the hell can you know that.  Please tell me how you know what happened to him.




Because science has proved that people who have NDE are just hallucinating. There no religion or "higher purpose or whatever bullshit. Its just just you brain dying, hypoxia, dopamine and preconceived ideas.

Or do you believe he really went to heaven and hell while he was still alive? Pretty much everyone who have actually fully died and been revived say the same thing. Theres nothing. Blackness. dead.

I believe science over a dying man.




Science has proved nothing.  There's plenty of people who died who have seen some type of vision.  You cannot prove 100 percent there is nothing after death
You can not do it.  You can believe it, you can say stuff like religious people are stupid.  But you do not know.  And if you say you know 100 percent what happens after you die or if there is not some other plane of existence you are a fool

Here's an idea.  You believe whatever you want.  And if someone believes in something else just keep your mouth shut.  Because I'm gonna say it again, you don't know.  Stop saying the shit your saying as fact. It is not fact.  Oh science has told you nothing exists after death.  No it hasnt.  Theres nothing out there with any certainty thats says that.  Also read up on the history of science. Concrete theories have been shattered over and over throughout history.




the entire history of science? that's a lot of reading man..


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your right there. I am a sad pathetic failure of a human being. Your not the first to say that :smile:




Then, fucking change! Stop being a POS to everyone.

Come back here and make me say, "You're fucking awesome, Kakashi68! I wish I could live your life, man!"




That will never happen in my life. Would be impossible for me to change that much.

You can live in your fantasy land if it makes you happy. But please do some actual research. Science HAS proved to the best of its current ability that nothing happens. Explain how dead people see nothing? Vision happen when people are still alive. When they die it stops and it all becomes nothing. Yes there is a chance that there may be something else. But its very small. Once your mind stops working you cease to exist, no more, thats it.

Do you deny other science? Let me guess you deny climate change?


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    #22138175 - 08/24/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Let me guess you believe what the smartest kid in the class says the answer is even if he's wrong.

And Jesus Christ man it has not proved anyhting!  Are you kidding me right now.  Show me where it has proved it. Please I'm dying, fucking dying to see it.

Let me clue you in on human nature. Someone claims something, usually a well  respected member of the scientific community. Even though he has very little evidence for this claim he still makes it.  Then thousands people in his field of study backs him up because he has done some impressive things in the past, they all want to seek approval from others so they say I believe this and it's right, see "aforementioned scientist" believes it.

People make claims and try to pass it off as fact when there is no possible way to prove what their saying.  And then someone like you reads an article and thinks hmm he's smarter than me so I'm gonna tell people what he said to make me look smart.  Then people start throwing out "proved", do you know the meaning of the word by the way, and start talking in absolutes when anyone with any intelligence would not do.


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    #22138244 - 08/24/15 11:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Let me guess you believe what the smartest kid in the class says the answer is even if he's wrong.

And Jesus Christ man it has not proved anyhting!  Are you kidding me right now.  Show me where it has proved it. Please I'm dying, fucking dying to see it.

Let me clue you in on human nature. Someone claims something, usually a well  respected member of the scientific community. Even though he has very little evidence for this claim he still makes it.  Then thousands people in his field of study backs him up because he has done some impressive things in the past, they all want to seek approval from others so they say I believe this and it's right, see "aforementioned scientist" believes it.

People make claims and try to pass it off as fact when there is no possible way to prove what their saying.  And then someone like you reads an article and thinks hmm he's smarter than me so I'm gonna tell people what he said to make me look smart.  Then people start throwing out "proved", do you know the meaning of the word by the way, and start talking in absolutes when anyone with any intelligence would not do.




still gives a better explanation than a made up dream hallucination. people experiences are often wrong. Objective research is often right.


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That will never happen in my life. Would be impossible for me to change that much.




Let's see some science to back up that statement. lol


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You can live in your fantasy land if it makes you happy. But please do some actual research. Science HAS proved to the best of its current ability that nothing happens.




Lack of evidence is not evidence.


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Explain how dead people see nothing? Vision happen when people are still alive. When they die it stops and it all becomes nothing.




When I go to sleep, vision stops, too. Yet, I am still something. When you are put to sleep for surgery, you do not hear, feel, see, touch, taste... but you are still something.


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Yes there is a chance that there may be something else. But its very small.




Let's see some science to back up that statement. lol


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Once your mind stops working you cease to exist, no more, thats it.




Except for that very small chance? How small; mustard seed small? I've been dead three times - I sure as fuck didn't just blink out of existence.


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Do you deny other science? Let me guess you deny climate change?




I am so deep into science, I've had to wait for humanity to catch up with things I was talking to stoner friends about thirty-plus years ago. I still remember them saying, "Dude... shut the fuck up! No one knows what you're talking about and no one cares. Don't be such a nerd." LOL *By the way; Einstein is totally wrong, you'll see.

But YOU can't tell someone what they're experiencing. You don't know, you think you know, but you have no proof. That's what I think you really need is a good, healthy, 8-gram with lemon tek dose of proof.


You made a post here called, "I fail at life...". You are 21 years old. You haven't even scratched the surface of the experiences out there. Tack on another 86 years then come tell me your stories about life. Right now you're immature - learn. Everything. Experience things as an adult. It's not all about you. It's about everything else, really. Other peoples' feelings, clouds, that bug you almost stepped on, a cool breeze on your face, the look that girl gave you when you passed her on your motorcycle, the homeless guy who honestly just needs a hand up... And that's just here. There's a whole lot more "out there", too. Before you pass judgement on someone elses' dreams and experiences, have some of your own first.

Then come see me in another 86 years, because I really want to hear your [fucking awesome] life story then! You're gonna love this trip.


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That will never happen in my life. Would be impossible for me to change that much.




Let's see some science to back up that statement. lol


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You can live in your fantasy land if it makes you happy. But please do some actual research. Science HAS proved to the best of its current ability that nothing happens.




Lack of evidence is not evidence.


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Explain how dead people see nothing? Vision happen when people are still alive. When they die it stops and it all becomes nothing.




When I go to sleep, vision stops, too. Yet, I am still something. When you are put to sleep for surgery, you do not hear, feel, see, touch, taste... but you are still something.


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Yes there is a chance that there may be something else. But its very small.




Let's see some science to back up that statement. lol


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Once your mind stops working you cease to exist, no more, thats it.




Except for that very small chance? How small; mustard seed small? I've been dead three times - I sure as fuck didn't just blink out of existence.


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Do you deny other science? Let me guess you deny climate change?




I am so deep into science, I've had to wait for humanity to catch up with things I was talking to stoner friends about thirty-plus years ago. I still remember them saying, "Dude... shut the fuck up! No one knows what you're talking about and no one cares. Don't be such a nerd." LOL *By the way; Einstein is totally wrong, you'll see.

But YOU can't tell someone what they're experiencing. You don't know, you think you know, but you have no proof. That's what I think you really need is a good, healthy, 8-gram with lemon tek dose of proof.


You made a post here called, "I fail at life...". You are 21 years old. You haven't even scratched the surface of the experiences out there. Tack on another 86 years then come tell me your stories about life. Right now you're immature - learn. Everything. Experience things as an adult. It's not all about you. It's about everything else, really. Other peoples' feelings, clouds, that bug you almost stepped on, a cool breeze on your face, the look that girl gave you when you passed her on your motorcycle, the homeless guy who honestly just needs a hand up... And that's just here. There's a whole lot more "out there", too. Before you pass judgement on someone elses' dreams and experiences, have some of your own first.

Then come see me in another 86 years, because I really want to hear your [fucking awesome] life story then! You're gonna love this trip.





Heres your articles

http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/78370/abstract
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10508619.2013.845005#.VdwDJfTuw_0
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1755599X11000607

See science. Not some random hallucination. No I cant tell what someone is exactly experiencing. But most people cant tell what they are feeling themselves. Or if its real or not. As the evidence shows.

Im sure my life will be filled with more rejection, pain and sorrow. I do know however its real and there is no fantasy land to come save me.


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    #22138295 - 08/25/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Im sure my life will be filled with more rejection, pain and sorrow. I do know however its real and there is no fantasy land to come save me.




Tell me, wasn't nice1returns' story interesting?


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    #22138386 - 08/25/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Big thank you to every one, especially the positive comments really cheered me up this morning :smile:  Vibes to everyone!  :psychsplit:

To the comment "what is hell like".  God has an opposite side as do we as part of god.  We have a negative energy equivilent.  When we sleep these negative energies awake.  If we don't sleep they don't get their rest.  I saw them as skeletons but much of what I saw was metaphors so I could understand it better...

There was a lot of torturing me, I was going through my negative timelines and killed over and over then I was in hell and seeing all the other negative beings, they we're evil, really dumbed down and trapped in their own hells.  There was a huge vortex we're you could leave hell and reincarnate although the level is so low that people there were reincarnating as things such as rocks or the rubber in your shoe.

The beings in hell we're being bossed around by Satan they had no choice to do what they wanted.  They we're all like good little soldiers but really nasty.  They we're all screamng abuse all the time or just shouting horrible stuff.  The world was created by "satan" or some bigger negative energy form and we were llin its reality tunnel.  It was just all bad stuff, being burnt ive, cut open over and over, shit seared in the wounds, being tortured, poisened.  That was my hell at least or my enterpretation of it.

In order to leave hell I was given the option to alter things in other peoples lifes.  I had to change 3 things that had happened.  Bad events, 2 to people i knew and 1 to a person I didn't know.  When I choose to help them I had to complete difficult tasks that were like swimming up stream but ultimately I was altering events in these peoples lives for the better.  I won't go into detail too much as its very long.  :tongue:

Hell was a weird place.  Especially being killed over and over.  I saw many different ways I had died, many on different timelines.  When you die its very painful and you almost go insane but then after that theres a form of counciousness left.  At first its hard to control your astral self.  If you don't create a "helll" you can do anything you want.  Create any reality like a lucid dream.

After I made these goood choices and helped people I was allowed to "heaven" and there people were creating entire universes for theirselves with thought.  I was told only positive beings can do this though and that I was destined there if I change my life and help others here now.

I realise this could be all imagnation but I had precognition experiences that have all come true and much of it I had never thought of or contradicted my previous beliefs.  Its hard to just shrug off.


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    #22138394 - 08/25/15 01:00 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hi fellow shroomers,
I just got out of hospital after over dosing on opiates.

I was taking kratom, etizolam and snorting fent analogues from china.

I remember taking a large dose of all 3 and puking then blacking out.






Damn, son, do you have some sort of death wish?




Pretty much yes, I was close to suicidal previously, very negative.  This whole experience has changed my entire outlook I know we here for a reason and life is precious, a chance to not end up in as a negative being in hell or descending and reincarnating as a lower form of life.


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    #22138401 - 08/25/15 01:07 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Respirators, tubes in throat, uncontrollable shitting and vomit. Sounds exactly like that enlightenment everyone's always talking about. Can't wait to try some of that od stuff myself.:rolleyes:


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lol :rofl:


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Pretty much yes, I was close to suicidal previously, very negative.  This whole experience has changed my entire outlook I know we here for a reason and life is precious, a chance to not end up in as a negative being in hell or descending and reincarnating as a lower form of life.





That's great. Really, suicide is a permanent solution to an often temporary problem. Keep believing in whatever gets you through the great night.


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i don't meanto be facetious but OD'ing sounds pretty legit from the OP


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Op Gave me chills, I hope you follow through on being positive and loving life, it is all we have.


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    #22139315 - 08/25/15 07:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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See science. Not some random hallucination. No I cant tell what someone is exactly experiencing. But most people cant tell what they are feeling themselves. Or if its real or not. As the evidence shows.

Im sure my life will be filled with more rejection, pain and sorrow. I do know however its real and there is no fantasy land to come save me.




Hypocrite that you are! For you trust the chemicals in your brain to tell you they're chemicals! Nothing can truly be known, so will you fight? Or die like a dog? :laugh:

Nice1returns, I am glad you are okay man! Please be careful from now on, ok?
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    #22140154 - 08/25/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

TY Mr. Totem,

It looks unlikely I'll be using heavy drugs ever again.  I'm not even planning on drinking or smoking weed in a long time nor will I be shrooming this season :/ I got the message and the phones hung up...

Might not be round here that much anymore either.  I don't want to think about drugs or talk so much about them.  Time to move on.  Its been fun though, love y'all and no doubt I'll be back once in a while to see how everyones getting on.

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    #22140276 - 08/25/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Congrats, Nice1. You've been to the brink and back. Many here can take lessons in your story.

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Congrats, Nice1. You've been to the brink and back. Many here can take lessons in your story.






And Zombi3's and Asante's.  I didn't need those lessons but clearly some people do.


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We all choose our own path.


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TY Mr. Totem,

It looks unlikely I'll be using heavy drugs ever again.  I'm not even planning on drinking or smoking weed in a long time nor will I be shrooming this season :/ I got the message and the phones hung up...

Might not be round here that much anymore either.  I don't want to think about drugs or talk so much about them.  Time to move on.  Its been fun though, love y'all and no doubt I'll be back once in a while to see how everyones getting on.

All the best :heart:  :cool::thumbup:




That may be for the best, yeah. We'll miss you, but please stay away if you think it'll help.
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Congrats, Nice1. You've been to the brink and back. Many here can take lessons in your story.






And Zombi3's and Asante's.  I didn't need those lessons but clearly some people do.




Yeah well, but you're like a senior citizen, man. You don't need life lessons as much as you need to prepare for the.. well you know, gaping abyss that awaits YOU AT THE END OF THE LINE!!!

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Believe me I'm kinda looking forward to the rest.


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sounds about right, op

im glad ur back and thanks alot for taking the time to write this out. :hippie:

many blessing to u my friend. :peace:


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:yesnod: This is my only drug...




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:awesomenod:


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    #22140789 - 08/25/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hello, I'm a new to site still trying to figure out everything. I was blown away when I read your experience, because one reason I join was because I had a experience some what like yours. One big difference is I never spoke to anyone or come out with details like yours. The most memorable part of it was, when it happen and I went to hell it wasn't a visit ! I really believed I was dead I was in hell and it was over! I mean there are no words to describe that feeling! I felt that I was in a barrel and for some reason had figured out I was in the middle of earth.Even know I could not see them I knew many others where there also.This whole thing seem like days, but was just really minutes. I remember screaming NO NO NO and was terrified beyond description. I remember the barrel started to roll and pain was shooting through my body! I remember the barrel began to heat up and I scream lord you promise to never give me more than I can handle and BAM I was in a bright light and felt great; then better and better then I started to see everything I mean everything! I seen how, why, what, understanding of all. When I was given this wisdom i remember just in awe and it just got better and better. I was saying words like how did you do that, you amazing, wow, o my! But the feeling got better and better and I began to sing ( I cant sing) But it was the most beautiful voice I ever herd and I could feel it coming from deep wit in it was like I was getting closer and closer to heaven. Then I thought of my family and how sad they where going to be, But I still wanted to go! Then bam I woke up laying on porch with cut above my eye. There so much I didn't put in this but most can not be even put into words. I have had a pretty wild life. When this happen I had only been home two weeks from a 10 year prison sentence. I love smoking pot but didn't want a dirty to go back to prison. I bought some spice from local under the table mart. This crazy part i roll a nice one up then put pack in pocket I remember setting on porch and thinking wow the sun it bright today. Then I remember thinking wow its really really bright felt as though the light over took me then bam darkness and barrel. Okay when I got up the joint of spice was laying there untouch! I dump bag never smoke it. Months later I had found some ovoids and every time I dose it was a very spiritual.I would just feel like I was connecting with the heavens. The ovoids have gone and I'm trying to grow indoor with no luck so hope joining site someone help me with that. Thanks for reading. Everthing I wrote on my life is the truth!


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Hello, I'm a new to site still trying to figure out everything. I was blown away when I read your experience, because one reason I join was because I had a experience some what like yours. One big difference is I never spoke to anyone or come out with details like yours. The most memorable part of it was, when it happen and I went to hell it wasn't a visit ! I really believed I was dead I was in hell and it was over! I mean there are no words to describe that feeling! I felt that I was in a barrel and for some reason had figured out I was in the middle of earth.Even know I could not see them I knew many others where there also.This whole thing seem like days, but was just really minutes. I remember screaming NO NO NO and was terrified beyond description. I remember the barrel started to roll and pain was shooting through my body! I remember the barrel began to heat up and I scream lord you promise to never give me more than I can handle and BAM I was in a bright light and felt great; then better and better then I started to see everything I mean everything! I seen how, why, what, understanding of all. When I was given this wisdom i remember just in awe and it just got better and better. I was saying words like how did you do that, you amazing, wow, o my! But the feeling got better and better and I began to sing ( I cant sing) But it was the most beautiful voice I ever herd and I could feel it coming from deep wit in it was like I was getting closer and closer to heaven. Then I thought of my family and how sad they where going to be, But I still wanted to go! Then bam I woke up laying on porch with cut above my eye. There so much I didn't put in this but most can not be even put into words. I have had a pretty wild life. When this happen I had only been home two weeks from a 10 year prison sentence. I love smoking pot but didn't want a dirty to go back to prison. I bought some spice from local under the table mart. This crazy part i roll a nice one up then put pack in pocket I remember setting on porch and thinking wow the sun it bright today. Then I remember thinking wow its really really bright felt as though the light over took me then bam darkness and barrel. Okay when I got up the joint of spice was laying there untouch! I dump bag never smoke it. Months later I had found some ovoids and every time I dose it was a very spiritual.I would just feel like I was connecting with the heavens. The ovoids have gone and I'm trying to grow indoor with no luck so hope joining site someone help me with that. Thanks for reading. Everthing I wrote on my life is the truth!





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Re: Overdosed [Re: kakashi68]
    #22142022 - 08/25/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry, I don't guess I will fit in here. I'm not much of a writer. Only graduated high school because they didn't want to deal with me another year.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: gmail]
    #22142030 - 08/25/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Sorry, I don't guess I will fit in here. I'm not much of a writer. Only graduated high school because they didn't want to deal with me another year.




i think you'll fit in you just need to hit enter every 4-5 sentences. high school graduate level stuff.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: gmail]
    #22144086 - 08/26/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I can relate to what you said its definately similar, my experience was timeless I could write a book so much happened, I've only relayed a bit of it here.  Its too much to explain.  Also I was told I was singing "we are the music" when I came back to my body.

I remember coming back, I thought I was lost forever.  This dimension seemed so fr away and I was losing memory of it.  I did experience being a spirit, I was haunting my sister and she had some weird experiences as well that night...

When I returned to my body there were really loud snapping sounds.  I returned just afer I completed my final good deed in the spiritual realm.  I was also shown the secrets of the universe and told no-one would believe me.  Its not my place to tell anyone either but I would speak my story.

When I was returned to my body I saw time and all the parrallel universes we exist in.  Time is like a frequency and life is like a sound vibration and I started to sing"we are the music".  :crazy:

I can relate to the terror, the terror I had being killed over and over almost sent me insane.


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