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OfflineSpace Elf
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Re: Overdosed [Re: nice1returns]
    #22137052 - 08/24/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm glad to hear that you're okay and that you gained something positive from such a horrible experience. Sometimes you have to go through 'hell' to get to 'heaven.' I've been there plenty of times.



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Re: Overdosed [Re: Detached]
    #22137084 - 08/24/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I don't get why he didn't lay hands on all the sick people at the hospital?  Seems like the perfect place to do some old fashioned faith healing.

That would be a good way to prove it, get a reputable doctor to witness and verify you healing someone, but of course God wouldn't allow such a thing to happen :snub: God only heals the gullible because he only wants to prove he is real to those who will believe in him anyway no matter how lacking the evidence is :sadyes:


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Re: Overdosed [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22137089 - 08/24/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

god is a monopolist and quite jealous.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22137133 - 08/24/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

God is a vengeful son of a bitch with no table manners.

Would not chill with again.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22137235 - 08/24/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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kakashi68 said:
What you saw was a chemical clusterfuck because you where dying. eg hallucinations things that ARNT REAL.




How the hell can you know that.  Please tell me how you know what happened to him.




Because science has proved that people who have NDE are just hallucinating. There no religion or "higher purpose or whatever bullshit. Its just just you brain dying, hypoxia, dopamine and preconceived ideas.

Or do you believe he really went to heaven and hell while he was still alive? Pretty much everyone who have actually fully died and been revived say the same thing. Theres nothing. Blackness. dead.

I believe science over a dying man.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: kakashi68]
    #22137867 - 08/24/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

What a sad and pathetic life you must lead.

I'm not religious, by any stretch, but at least I don't constantly one-up other people by showing how much of a fucking cunt I am, Kaka.

I feel sad for you. Seriously, breaks my heart.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
    #22137929 - 08/24/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Arctic W. Fox said:
What a sad and pathetic life you must lead.

I'm not religious, by any stretch, but at least I don't constantly one-up other people by showing how much of a fucking cunt I am, Kaka.

I feel sad for you. Seriously, breaks my heart.




your right there. I am a sad pathetic failure of a human being. Your not the first to say that :smile:


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Re: Overdosed [Re: kakashi68] * 2
    #22137936 - 08/24/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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kakashi68 said:
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Arctic W. Fox said:
What a sad and pathetic life you must lead.

I'm not religious, by any stretch, but at least I don't constantly one-up other people by showing how much of a fucking cunt I am, Kaka.

I feel sad for you. Seriously, breaks my heart.




your right there. I am a sad pathetic failure of a human being. Your not the first to say that :smile:



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Re: Overdosed [Re: nice1returns]
    #22137957 - 08/24/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like a pretty intense experience man! Reminds me of trip reports of Iboga. Glad to hear you are OK.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: kakashi68] * 1
    #22137966 - 08/24/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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kakashi68 said:
your right there. I am a sad pathetic failure of a human being. Your not the first to say that :smile:




Then, fucking change! Stop being a POS to everyone.

Come back here and make me say, "You're fucking awesome, Kakashi68! I wish I could live your life, man!"


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Re: Overdosed [Re: nice1returns]
    #22137973 - 08/24/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Hi fellow shroomers,
I just got out of hospital after over dosing on opiates.

I was taking kratom, etizolam and snorting fent analogues from china.

I remember taking a large dose of all 3 and puking then blacking out.






Damn, son, do you have some sort of death wish?


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Re: Overdosed [Re: kakashi68]
    #22138031 - 08/24/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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kakashi68 said:
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DTCharlieB said:
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kakashi68 said:
What you saw was a chemical clusterfuck because you where dying. eg hallucinations things that ARNT REAL.




How the hell can you know that.  Please tell me how you know what happened to him.




Because science has proved that people who have NDE are just hallucinating. There no religion or "higher purpose or whatever bullshit. Its just just you brain dying, hypoxia, dopamine and preconceived ideas.

Or do you believe he really went to heaven and hell while he was still alive? Pretty much everyone who have actually fully died and been revived say the same thing. Theres nothing. Blackness. dead.

I believe science over a dying man.




Science has proved nothing.  There's plenty of people who died who have seen some type of vision.  You cannot prove 100 percent there is nothing after death
You can not do it.  You can believe it, you can say stuff like religious people are stupid.  But you do not know.  And if you say you know 100 percent what happens after you die or if there is not some other plane of existence you are a fool

Here's an idea.  You believe whatever you want.  And if someone believes in something else just keep your mouth shut.  Because I'm gonna say it again, you don't know.  Stop saying the shit your saying as fact. It is not fact.  Oh science has told you nothing exists after death.  No it hasnt.  Theres nothing out there with any certainty thats says that.  Also read up on the history of science. Concrete theories have been shattered over and over throughout history.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: DTCharlieB] * 1
    #22138095 - 08/24/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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DTCharlieB said:
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kakashi68 said:
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DTCharlieB said:
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kakashi68 said:
What you saw was a chemical clusterfuck because you where dying. eg hallucinations things that ARNT REAL.




How the hell can you know that.  Please tell me how you know what happened to him.




Because science has proved that people who have NDE are just hallucinating. There no religion or "higher purpose or whatever bullshit. Its just just you brain dying, hypoxia, dopamine and preconceived ideas.

Or do you believe he really went to heaven and hell while he was still alive? Pretty much everyone who have actually fully died and been revived say the same thing. Theres nothing. Blackness. dead.

I believe science over a dying man.




Science has proved nothing.  There's plenty of people who died who have seen some type of vision.  You cannot prove 100 percent there is nothing after death
You can not do it.  You can believe it, you can say stuff like religious people are stupid.  But you do not know.  And if you say you know 100 percent what happens after you die or if there is not some other plane of existence you are a fool

Here's an idea.  You believe whatever you want.  And if someone believes in something else just keep your mouth shut.  Because I'm gonna say it again, you don't know.  Stop saying the shit your saying as fact. It is not fact.  Oh science has told you nothing exists after death.  No it hasnt.  Theres nothing out there with any certainty thats says that.  Also read up on the history of science. Concrete theories have been shattered over and over throughout history.




the entire history of science? that's a lot of reading man..


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Re: Overdosed [Re: pfxtc]
    #22138121 - 08/24/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Cliff notes


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Re: Overdosed [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
    #22138122 - 08/24/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Arctic W. Fox said:
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kakashi68 said:
your right there. I am a sad pathetic failure of a human being. Your not the first to say that :smile:




Then, fucking change! Stop being a POS to everyone.

Come back here and make me say, "You're fucking awesome, Kakashi68! I wish I could live your life, man!"




That will never happen in my life. Would be impossible for me to change that much.

You can live in your fantasy land if it makes you happy. But please do some actual research. Science HAS proved to the best of its current ability that nothing happens. Explain how dead people see nothing? Vision happen when people are still alive. When they die it stops and it all becomes nothing. Yes there is a chance that there may be something else. But its very small. Once your mind stops working you cease to exist, no more, thats it.

Do you deny other science? Let me guess you deny climate change?


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Re: Overdosed [Re: kakashi68]
    #22138175 - 08/24/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Let me guess you believe what the smartest kid in the class says the answer is even if he's wrong.

And Jesus Christ man it has not proved anyhting!  Are you kidding me right now.  Show me where it has proved it. Please I'm dying, fucking dying to see it.

Let me clue you in on human nature. Someone claims something, usually a well  respected member of the scientific community. Even though he has very little evidence for this claim he still makes it.  Then thousands people in his field of study backs him up because he has done some impressive things in the past, they all want to seek approval from others so they say I believe this and it's right, see "aforementioned scientist" believes it.

People make claims and try to pass it off as fact when there is no possible way to prove what their saying.  And then someone like you reads an article and thinks hmm he's smarter than me so I'm gonna tell people what he said to make me look smart.  Then people start throwing out "proved", do you know the meaning of the word by the way, and start talking in absolutes when anyone with any intelligence would not do.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22138244 - 08/24/15 11:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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DTCharlieB said:
Let me guess you believe what the smartest kid in the class says the answer is even if he's wrong.

And Jesus Christ man it has not proved anyhting!  Are you kidding me right now.  Show me where it has proved it. Please I'm dying, fucking dying to see it.

Let me clue you in on human nature. Someone claims something, usually a well  respected member of the scientific community. Even though he has very little evidence for this claim he still makes it.  Then thousands people in his field of study backs him up because he has done some impressive things in the past, they all want to seek approval from others so they say I believe this and it's right, see "aforementioned scientist" believes it.

People make claims and try to pass it off as fact when there is no possible way to prove what their saying.  And then someone like you reads an article and thinks hmm he's smarter than me so I'm gonna tell people what he said to make me look smart.  Then people start throwing out "proved", do you know the meaning of the word by the way, and start talking in absolutes when anyone with any intelligence would not do.




still gives a better explanation than a made up dream hallucination. people experiences are often wrong. Objective research is often right.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: kakashi68]
    #22138248 - 08/24/15 11:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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kakashi68 said:
That will never happen in my life. Would be impossible for me to change that much.




Let's see some science to back up that statement. lol


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kakashi68 said:
You can live in your fantasy land if it makes you happy. But please do some actual research. Science HAS proved to the best of its current ability that nothing happens.




Lack of evidence is not evidence.


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kakashi68 said:
Explain how dead people see nothing? Vision happen when people are still alive. When they die it stops and it all becomes nothing.




When I go to sleep, vision stops, too. Yet, I am still something. When you are put to sleep for surgery, you do not hear, feel, see, touch, taste... but you are still something.


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Yes there is a chance that there may be something else. But its very small.




Let's see some science to back up that statement. lol


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Once your mind stops working you cease to exist, no more, thats it.




Except for that very small chance? How small; mustard seed small? I've been dead three times - I sure as fuck didn't just blink out of existence.


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Do you deny other science? Let me guess you deny climate change?




I am so deep into science, I've had to wait for humanity to catch up with things I was talking to stoner friends about thirty-plus years ago. I still remember them saying, "Dude... shut the fuck up! No one knows what you're talking about and no one cares. Don't be such a nerd." LOL *By the way; Einstein is totally wrong, you'll see.

But YOU can't tell someone what they're experiencing. You don't know, you think you know, but you have no proof. That's what I think you really need is a good, healthy, 8-gram with lemon tek dose of proof.


You made a post here called, "I fail at life...". You are 21 years old. You haven't even scratched the surface of the experiences out there. Tack on another 86 years then come tell me your stories about life. Right now you're immature - learn. Everything. Experience things as an adult. It's not all about you. It's about everything else, really. Other peoples' feelings, clouds, that bug you almost stepped on, a cool breeze on your face, the look that girl gave you when you passed her on your motorcycle, the homeless guy who honestly just needs a hand up... And that's just here. There's a whole lot more "out there", too. Before you pass judgement on someone elses' dreams and experiences, have some of your own first.

Then come see me in another 86 years, because I really want to hear your [fucking awesome] life story then! You're gonna love this trip.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
    #22138262 - 08/24/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Arctic W. Fox said:
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kakashi68 said:
That will never happen in my life. Would be impossible for me to change that much.




Let's see some science to back up that statement. lol


Quote:

kakashi68 said:
You can live in your fantasy land if it makes you happy. But please do some actual research. Science HAS proved to the best of its current ability that nothing happens.




Lack of evidence is not evidence.


Quote:

kakashi68 said:
Explain how dead people see nothing? Vision happen when people are still alive. When they die it stops and it all becomes nothing.




When I go to sleep, vision stops, too. Yet, I am still something. When you are put to sleep for surgery, you do not hear, feel, see, touch, taste... but you are still something.


Quote:

kakashi68 said:
Yes there is a chance that there may be something else. But its very small.




Let's see some science to back up that statement. lol


Quote:

kakashi68 said:
Once your mind stops working you cease to exist, no more, thats it.




Except for that very small chance? How small; mustard seed small? I've been dead three times - I sure as fuck didn't just blink out of existence.


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kakashi68 said:
Do you deny other science? Let me guess you deny climate change?




I am so deep into science, I've had to wait for humanity to catch up with things I was talking to stoner friends about thirty-plus years ago. I still remember them saying, "Dude... shut the fuck up! No one knows what you're talking about and no one cares. Don't be such a nerd." LOL *By the way; Einstein is totally wrong, you'll see.

But YOU can't tell someone what they're experiencing. You don't know, you think you know, but you have no proof. That's what I think you really need is a good, healthy, 8-gram with lemon tek dose of proof.


You made a post here called, "I fail at life...". You are 21 years old. You haven't even scratched the surface of the experiences out there. Tack on another 86 years then come tell me your stories about life. Right now you're immature - learn. Everything. Experience things as an adult. It's not all about you. It's about everything else, really. Other peoples' feelings, clouds, that bug you almost stepped on, a cool breeze on your face, the look that girl gave you when you passed her on your motorcycle, the homeless guy who honestly just needs a hand up... And that's just here. There's a whole lot more "out there", too. Before you pass judgement on someone elses' dreams and experiences, have some of your own first.

Then come see me in another 86 years, because I really want to hear your [fucking awesome] life story then! You're gonna love this trip.





Heres your articles

http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/78370/abstract
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10508619.2013.845005#.VdwDJfTuw_0
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1755599X11000607

See science. Not some random hallucination. No I cant tell what someone is exactly experiencing. But most people cant tell what they are feeling themselves. Or if its real or not. As the evidence shows.

Im sure my life will be filled with more rejection, pain and sorrow. I do know however its real and there is no fantasy land to come save me.


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Re: Overdosed [Re: kakashi68]
    #22138295 - 08/25/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Im sure my life will be filled with more rejection, pain and sorrow. I do know however its real and there is no fantasy land to come save me.




Tell me, wasn't nice1returns' story interesting?


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