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xachisonfire



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WindWisperer said: I'd say do a grain to agar transfer, so you can learn agar, clean up some plates and have more ready to go just in case those jars are contaminated. Seriously agar has allowed me to get away from MS failures.
Go ahead and buy a tote that is about as wide (or wider) than your shoulder span, it helps to get one with a clear lid. Cut some arm holes in such a way to give you good maneuverability inside your still air box. I used a dremel to cut out a circle shape, then cleaned it up with a sanding disk. You can also use a coffee can that is all metal to melt a hole with a torch.
Doing this is the best way to have another project rolling that is almost ensured success just in case! Trust me you don't want to rely on one thing, and have it fail miserably, it hurts the feels.
[EDIT] I cannot confirm whether or not your jars are contaminated, sorry man. I would pluck a grain out of the jars when you spawn them to coir verm gypsum (or substrate of choice), and plop it right in the middle of your plate. Do this with a few, and have a few plates ready to go so just in case you get contams on your plates, you have a new one ready to accept a slice of clean colonized agar.
Thank you for the advice, it's highly appreciated! This is pretty much exactly what i went ahead and did. 
I went ahead and spawned 2 qts to my 50/50 CV substrate. The jars smelled amazing...fresh mushies!! Before spawning, i pulled out my SAB (which i already had built from inoculation ) and opened one of the jars to transfer to 4 Payste Plates. The coolest part about it is that i noticed a couple weeks ago that some grains were sticking to the bottom side of the tyvek under the lids from shaking. Sure enough there was some great looking growth there. So thats where my transfers came from. It was a breeze...pop both lids off, grab and done. So i now have 5 jars still colonizing, 4 Payste Plates colonizing, and 1 mini mono colonizing.
I just want to clone on some plates, so all i need is one successful grow!
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Machiavelliavore
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FYI, Damion5050 coir verm substrate that people usually talk about is 80/20 coir verm. 50/50 will work fine, it just has a slightly less nutrition and costs a bit more.
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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister. I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave. I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent. Triggered yet? Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."
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xachisonfire



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Machiavelliavore said: FYI, Damion5050 coir verm substrate that people usually talk about is 80/20 coir verm. 50/50 will work fine, it just has a slightly less nutrition and costs a bit more.
I was unaware of that ratio...i hope everything turns out ok. I imagine it might colonize faster with less nutes anyway as the myc "searches" for more food? My ratio was 3qts Verm, 3 qts Coir, and 2 qts of spawn in a 20 qt tub.
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xachisonfire said:
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Machiavelliavore said: FYI, Damion5050 coir verm substrate that people usually talk about is 80/20 coir verm. 50/50 will work fine, it just has a slightly less nutrition and costs a bit more.
I was unaware of that ratio...
Did you even read the tek?
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xachisonfire



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Re: My 1st Mini Tubs [Re: PussyFart]
#22166538 - 08/30/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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PussyFart said:
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xachisonfire said:
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Machiavelliavore said: FYI, Damion5050 coir verm substrate that people usually talk about is 80/20 coir verm. 50/50 will work fine, it just has a slightly less nutrition and costs a bit more.
I was unaware of that ratio...
Did you even read the tek?
Yeah, i did read it. My mistake was not knowing the correct ammount of "qts" there are in one "brick" of coir. I didnt purchase my coir in a brick, it was already broken up in a bag...my own fault.
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Big Bear
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Machiavelliavore said: I'm extremely suspicious of this jar

toss it. if it is suspicious dont spawn.
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xachisonfire



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Re: My 1st Mini Tubs [Re: Big Bear]
#22184232 - 09/03/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So i have all 3 mini's colonizing. Been about 4 days now and they're looking great. I have one more jar that ill be making an LC out of.
Here's how my Payste plates came out. This is also 4 days.
I took my boil water jar out of the freezer and let the glass get up to room temp. The boil water was still a frozen block inside the jar so i poured some warm tap water into the jar, swirled it around a few times and poured it out. Thats what i used to make my plates with.
So far, there haven't been any signs of contam. Needless to say, im having alot of fun doing all these different teks.
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xachisonfire



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So my tubs have been colonizing for 6 days now, and i decided to sneak a peek. Just curious if this might be cobweb mold? If so, i saw RR say that the brown bottles of h2o2 in the US are already mixed at 3% and to just give it a spray. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks in advance!!
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xachisonfire



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So i took my contam issues to the contamination forum and figured out what i needed to know.
Tub #1 has pinned prematurely. Either theres contamination somewhere, or my sub was too wet. The myc started knotting and i thought it might have been the start of trich. (Little white cottage cheese looking dots.)
I let it ride a couple days until i started noticing caps starting to form on the knots. I went ahead and fruited it. This is what it looked like this morning.


A decent pin set given the circumstances (in my opinion).
Ill dunk my sub with a little h2o2 after this flush if i dont notice any funky smells or discoloration just to be safe and see if i can get another flush out of it.
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xachisonfire



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Update:
Tub #1 is coming along very nicely.

Harvest day is fast approaching 
The other 2 were put in fruiting conditions 2 days ago. Hopefully they come out like tub #1.
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xachisonfire



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Here we go!!
First flush from tub #1. Not sure on the yield yet. Gonna swing by Wally World and grab a dehydrator at lunch and go harvest and start drying.
First mini tub = success

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PoIIo
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Did better than me! My shrooms all came out super tiny.
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xachisonfire



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Re: My 1st Mini Tubs [Re: PoIIo]
#22223513 - 09/11/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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PoIIo said: Did better than me! My shrooms all came out super tiny.
I had alot of smaller ones also...damn MS genetics. Only two decent sized ones...i decided to wait for my other 2 tubs (which have great pin sets right now) before i clone. Hoping ill get a better looking fruit from tub 2 or 3.
In comparison to yours though, i wouldnt say mine came out better...they're all just as good if you get fruits to store away. 
I got 500 grams wet weight. I figure mushies are roughly 90% water...so i was expecting roughly 10% (50 grams) dry weight. Those suckers shriveled up ALOT so im not so sure now...


They were a beautiful cluster a few hours ago...now it looks pitiful hahaha.
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xachisonfire said: Here we go!!
First flush from tub #1. Not sure on the yield yet. Gonna swing by Wally World and grab a dehydrator at lunch and go harvest and start drying.
First mini tub = success


Looking good! What was your dry weight and how many quarts of spawn and bulk did you use per mono?
Edited by uninc4life2010 (09/12/15 02:49 AM)
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xachisonfire



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Dry weight came out to 48 grams. Thats pretty close to what i guessed i was going to get.
Per tub i used 2 qts of WBS spawn to 4qts coir and 1qt verm.
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PoIIo
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xachisonfire said:
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PoIIo said: Did better than me! My shrooms all came out super tiny.
I had alot of smaller ones also...damn MS genetics. Only two decent sized ones...i decided to wait for my other 2 tubs (which have great pin sets right now) before i clone. Hoping ill get a better looking fruit from tub 2 or 3.
In comparison to yours though, i wouldnt say mine came out better...they're all just as good if you get fruits to store away. 
I got 500 grams wet weight. I figure mushies are roughly 90% water...so i was expecting roughly 10% (50 grams) dry weight. Those suckers shriveled up ALOT so im not so sure now...


They were a beautiful cluster a few hours ago...now it looks pitiful hahaha.
I think you bring up the best point. In the end we grew our mushrooms and were rewarded for the months of reading this site. I have yet to even try shrooms and here I am ready to go. Make sure to keep us updated on those other tubs.
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Darkhome
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xachisonfire said: Here we go!!
First flush from tub #1. Not sure on the yield yet. Gonna swing by Wally World and grab a dehydrator at lunch and go harvest and start drying.
First mini tub = success


Nice job...keep rocking it bro!
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Edited by Darkhome (09/16/15 11:26 PM)
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