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Re: Shroomery Party Primary Election Reboot:Debate Edition [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22149779 - 08/27/15 02:11 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

An invasion and annexation of mexico would cause more than a few problems. The majority of big politicians in Mexico are corrupt and take bribes regularly. TO throw them all out of office would not work very well IMO.

Then there comes the economy of Mexico, which internationally is considered to be on par with the US. But there is a giant income gap from the majority of people to the few.

I want to be able to aid mexico to obtain a better living standard and defeat corruption. But the chances for that aren't too high because of existing corruption  in the government and constant displacement of people who want to change mexico.

There's quite a few rebel groups living in mexico who want to start a revolution in mexico. It would be likely. Mexico has went through 2 revolutions, the first for sovereignty and the second to end a dictatorship. It wouldn't be too far out to assume that there will be another. Especially considering mexico considered 54% of the country to be impoverished by their standards.

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Re: Shroomery Party Primary Election Reboot:Debate Edition [Re: Achillita]
    #22149980 - 08/27/15 06:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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An invasion and annexation of mexico would cause more than a few problems. The majority of big politicians in Mexico are corrupt and take bribes regularly. TO throw them all out of office would not work very well IMO.

Then there comes the economy of Mexico, which internationally is considered to be on par with the US. But there is a giant income gap from the majority of people to the few.




:lolsy:Only by idiots
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I want to be able to aid mexico to obtain a better living standard and defeat corruption. But the chances for that aren't too high because of existing corruption  in the government and constant displacement of people who want to change mexico.




You want to help Mexico?  Move to Mexico
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There's quite a few rebel groups living in mexico who want to start a revolution in mexico. It would be likely. Mexico has went through 2 revolutions, the first for sovereignty and the second to end a dictatorship. It wouldn't be too far out to assume that there will be another. Especially considering mexico considered 54% of the country to be impoverished by their standards.

Sorry for coming in late, I never saw this thread.




The drug cartels run the country.  Good luck rebelling against them.

By the way this is the Primary for the Shroomery candidate.  It has nothing to do with the real world.


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Re: Shroomery Party Primary Election Reboot:Debate Edition [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22151043 - 08/27/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I know, but he brought up issues :lol:

But according to the world economy, mexico is a first world country with less than 2% below the international poverty line that was set by the world bank. Although mexico itself states about 50% of the population is in poverty.

But the second richest person in the world lives in Mexico. A lot of the areas that are impoverished are based in rural communities.

Also, rebelling against the cartel wouldn't be the problem. While I do admit it'd probably be harder than solely from the government, plenty of Mexican Militias have actually protected small towns from cartels. The bigger cities police have also stopped the majority of cartel violence in some of Mexico's biggest cities.

But the government at the moment is inherently corrupt. Corruption does not last forever.

Also helping Mexico would benefit the US. Especially considering NAFTA is in effect. I mean the US sends so much money to the middle east when there is just as much violence happening right next to us.


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Re: Shroomery Party Primary Election Reboot:Debate Edition [Re: Achillita]
    #22151156 - 08/27/15 12:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

We do not send that much money to the middle East and Mexico is deliberately fucking us by encouraging their olsers to invade


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Re: Shroomery Party Primary Election Reboot:Debate Edition [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22151220 - 08/27/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

We've spent tons of money in the middle east since the gulf war! When not fighting directly, it would be funding insurgents. Then we had to clean up the mess we made. Nonstop cash flow to the middle east.

The mexican government has actually worked to stop a lot of illegal immigration. But they aren't encouraging any citizen to be an illegal in the US. If you're referring to the pamphlet that was published around 10 years ago, it was made to stop the loss of life and prevent drug smuggling.

A lot of the info in the pamphlet was how not to freeze to death if crossing rivers, not dying from dehydration. Even says not to use an immigrant smuggler, or carry packages for free passage. Also states the rights they have, so they are not mistreated.

The year before the pamphlet was published, more than 300 people died on the way to cross the border. The number is more likely around 500 though.

Human lives are much more important than the fact that they are illegal immigrants. Hell, the whole reason why nearly all drug forums(and erowid) exist is for preventive action. Just so someone doesn't do a stupid and die.


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Re: Shroomery Party Primary Election Reboot:Debate Edition [Re: Achillita]
    #22151257 - 08/27/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah the Mexican government works to stop immigration to Mexico.  Their immigration laws are far stricter than ours.  The country is an anarchistic shithole essentially run by criminals both in and out of government.


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Re: Shroomery Party Primary Election Reboot:Debate Edition [Re: Achillita]
    #22151309 - 08/27/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Achillita said:
An invasion and annexation of mexico would cause more than a few problems. The majority of big politicians in Mexico are corrupt and take bribes regularly. TO throw them all out of office would not work very well IMO.

Then there comes the economy of Mexico, which internationally is considered to be on par with the US.




Not even close.  Mexico GDP $1.3 trillion vs US GDP $18 trillion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Mexico


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Re: Shroomery Party Primary Election Reboot:Debate Edition [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22152567 - 08/27/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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We do not send that much money to the middle East



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Re: Shroomery Party Primary Election Reboot:Debate Edition [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22152590 - 08/27/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

We have nearly 20 trillion dollars in debt?  Would you like to tell me what the total amount of money we sent to the middle east is?


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Re: Shroomery Party Primary Election Reboot:Debate Edition [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22152603 - 08/27/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not a candidate, but i couldn't resist.



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Re: Shroomery Party Primary Election Reboot:Debate Edition [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22152621 - 08/27/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Aside from the fact that most of them aren't in the middle east I came up with about 7 billion total.

Do you know why we give Pakistan money?  And Egypt?


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Re: Shroomery Party Primary Election Reboot:Debate Edition [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22152627 - 08/27/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

bribe money to not fuck with israel


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Re: Shroomery Party Primary Election Reboot:Debate Edition [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22152645 - 08/27/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

No.  Pakistan?  Egypt and Israel got square over 30 years ago.


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Re: Shroomery Party Primary Election Reboot:Debate Edition [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22152650 - 08/27/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

next question please.


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Re: Shroomery Party Primary Election Reboot:Debate Edition [Re: sprinkles]
    #22152681 - 08/27/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Question 6: There's a ton of crazy people walkin around.  As POTUS, what measures would you promote to deal with this problem?


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Re: Shroomery Party Primary Election Reboot:Debate Edition [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22152706 - 08/27/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Question 6: There's a ton of crazy people walkin around.  As POTUS, what measures would you promote to deal with this problem?



There isn't much POTUS can do except appoint judges who aren't legislating jackasses.  Generally I would leave most of them alone but anybody who expresses any violent tendencies, and the Virginia asshole did, spends at least a week in forced evaluation.  Sdaly this seems to have been deemed unconstitutional by some courts.


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Re: Shroomery Party Primary Election Reboot:Debate Edition [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22152743 - 08/27/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Question 6: There's a ton of crazy people walkin around.  As POTUS, what measures would you promote to deal with this problem?



Free help? :shrug:
This just sort of ties into what I said earlier about legalizing drugs and helping eradicate poverty in my opinion. Main thing I have to worry about personally is someone stealing my stuff, usually to support a drug habit.


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Re: Shroomery Party Primary Election Reboot:Debate Edition [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22152756 - 08/27/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Question 6: There's a ton of crazy people walkin around.  As POTUS, what measures would you promote to deal with this problem?





seriously?  next question please.


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Re: Shroomery Party Primary Election Reboot:Debate Edition [Re: sprinkles]
    #22152767 - 08/27/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Question 6: There's a ton of crazy people walkin around.  As POTUS, what measures would you promote to deal with this problem?





seriously?  next question please.



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What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
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Re: Shroomery Party Primary Election Reboot:Debate Edition [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #22152778 - 08/27/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, you're fired. 


FREE help?  So, you want your tax dollars going to help crazy people huh?  when they will always be crazy no matter how much money you throw at them? you cant cure them.  But by all means, you go donate your paychecks and see what difference it makes.  LOL


Death is the only cure for crazy.  Just ask Bill.


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