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Re: Odor of marijuana smoke wafting from neighbor's apartment not legally "offensive," appeals court [Re: allseeingike]
#22152798 - 08/27/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm sure u got little high but just didn't notice, it's actually very subtle. U probably felt kinda relaxed but didn't really notice it
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Re: Odor of marijuana smoke wafting from neighbor's apartment not legally "offensive," appeals court [Re: zZZz]
#22152878 - 08/27/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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As others have said, placebo effect. That's why it's so subtle. 
The dispersion is way too great for you to receive a substantial amount of smoke to actually get you high.
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Re: Odor of marijuana smoke wafting from neighbor's apartment not legally "offensive," appeals court [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
#22152907 - 08/27/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Its not placebo, I've gotten high off second hand smoke plenty of times, i even check my eyes and they are always red. Placebos don't do that, mAke ur eyes red
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Re: Odor of marijuana smoke wafting from neighbor's apartment not legally "offensive," appeals court [Re: zZZz]
#22152915 - 08/27/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Are you in a sealed small vehicle with two or more people smoking blunts?
If not then the majority of the effect is placebo.
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Re: Odor of marijuana smoke wafting from neighbor's apartment not legally "offensive," appeals court [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
#22152939 - 08/27/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well u should try it sometime, nextime someone is smoking around u with the smoke goin ur direction go look in a mirror and tell me ur eyes arent red or mellowed out
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Re: Odor of marijuana smoke wafting from neighbor's apartment not legally "offensive," appeals court [Re: zZZz]
#22153009 - 08/27/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have had this situation play out while I wasn't smoking and have never experienced anything substantial.
Had to calm down sober friends of mine who freaked out when someone started smoking in the same room as them.
Close to 80% of the THC is absorbed into your lungs within 5 seconds of holding in the smoke, the remaining portion exponentially dissipates into the atmosphere. The air that enters your lungs would have no more than a fraction of 1% of the original smoke under normal circumstances.
I'm not saying it can't happen but it is incredibly unlikely in most situations.
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Re: Odor of marijuana smoke wafting from neighbor's apartment not legally "offensive," appeals court [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
#22153023 - 08/27/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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im not saying it gets u super high, more like a lite buzz
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Re: Odor of marijuana smoke wafting from neighbor's apartment not legally "offensive," appeals court [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
#22153046 - 08/27/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yukon Cornelius said: Are you in a sealed small vehicle with two or more people smoking blunts?
If not then the majority of the effect is placebo.
Even then, it would have to be 4 people smoking 6 blunts each non stop to get a high enough blood concentration.
You may get high, but you are not stoned and it sure won't show up in a piss test.
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Re: Odor of marijuana smoke wafting from neighbor's apartment not legally "offensive," appeals court [Re: zZZz]
#22153048 - 08/27/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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My point still stands, do you get buzzed on O'doul's or kombucha?
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Re: Odor of marijuana smoke wafting from neighbor's apartment not legally "offensive," appeals court [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
#22153062 - 08/27/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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trust bro, dont knock it till uve done the homework, and i dont mean just reading articles, i mean actually getting down and dirty
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Re: Odor of marijuana smoke wafting from neighbor's apartment not legally "offensive," appeals court [Re: zZZz]
#22153136 - 08/27/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Straight up, I scienced the shit out of it.
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Re: Odor of marijuana smoke wafting from neighbor's apartment not legally "offensive," appeals court [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
#22153159 - 08/27/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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well do it again, cuz my point will stand the test of time
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Re: Odor of marijuana smoke wafting from neighbor's apartment not legally "offensive," appeals court [Re: zZZz]
#22153893 - 08/27/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you're hot boxing a small confined space like a car for long enough it seems reasonable someone with no tolerance might feel the effects.
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Re: Odor of marijuana smoke wafting from neighbor's apartment not legally "offensive," appeals court [Re: Detached]
#22154673 - 08/28/15 01:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Detached said:
I agree that it is best to treat weed smoke like cigarettes regarding legal law. If you're not allowed to smoke a cig inside, you shouldn't think it's ok to puff a bowl.
I strongly disagree with this statement, and you've already anticipated one of the reasons why:
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But the problem is I believe legal marijuana laws prohibit smoking in the public much like drinking laws. So if you're not supposed to smoke outside and your apartment bans indoor smoking, where do you get high at?
Some states, marijuana is legal, or at least decriminalized to the point where it's only a ticketable offense, but smoking in public is either illegal, or a more serious penalty.
Also, I believe the most common reasons landlords don't want people smoking tobacco in a building are
A- Smoke residue, which is theoretically worse with tobacco than it is with pot, which is typically smoked less frequently, and often in smaller amounts.
B- Increased risk of fire via residents being careless with their butts, falling asleep smoking, etc. And I suppose this one is still a bit of an increased risk... but I also feel like pot smokers are a bit less casual with the physical act of their smoking, than a cigarette smoker. The typical cigarette smoker is at least far more used to it, so I believe it's more of a subconscious act. Not to mention that more time spent burning things, theoretically equals more time spent in risk. Overall, I think pot is less of a risk in this category overall, even if it still poses some.
But ultimately, if smoking pot is not illegal (but public smoking is an offense) I don't think landlords should be able to say "no, you have to do that outside."
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Re: Odor of marijuana smoke wafting from neighbor's apartment not legally "offensive," appeals court [Re: zZZz]
#22154678 - 08/28/15 01:14 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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allseeingike said: shit, when i was on probation i would sit in a car with my friends ( who i lived with) while they hotboxed the car and not only would i not get high but i would piss clean ( took drug tests twice a week for a year
that's interesting,
i guess i'm just really sensitive, cuz i definitely get a buzz from 2nd hand smoke. that's pretty cool tho u were able to pass the drug test, i mean u were pretty much inhaling the smoke so it was like u were smoking too, but not as much as ur friends. maybe there is something there, maybe peeps can get high from second hand smoke without it showing up on drug tests?.. 
...trust me bro, the marijuana smoke can be very subtle, i've gotten high from second hand smoke plenty of times, but i mean i was always super sober when it happened so it was always very noticeable to me.
i've been smoking everyday for several years now so u cant tell me i dont get high from second hand smoke, cuz i def know what a marijuana high feels like.
Well, drug tests do have a cutoff detection point. Shit can be in your system, but if it's under threshold it will show up as a negative.
However, placebo is a hell of a drug. I have seen people trip their faces off on plain white paper (with nothing on it.)
People can even have physiological reactions from placebo. One of the reasons they have to account for it in human drug trials.
Don't underestimate placebo.
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